From volunteer@revealed.net Thu Nov 1 03:06:17 2007 From: volunteer@revealed.net (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:06:17 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness Message-ID: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> All of us Internet Revealed customers have had a hard time recently. The storm seems to be over for most of us, but there is one issue left. During all this someone with a Revealed address unwittingly became a spammer (that's the one that got the FBI involved, I think). Mediacom blocked ALL of Revealed's network. The problem has since been fixed, but Mediacom won't talk to Revealed or unblock them. I just sent a test to an mchsi address and got a failure notice. This means that I can't communicate with anyone with a mchsi address. It also means none of the rest of you folks with Revealed addresses can either. There is no person at Mediacom to talk to, and they're not answering Revealed's emails. I understand competition, but this seems like going too far, like dirty pool. After all, it's not Mediacoms Internet. I was told when I phoned them that the address at Mediacom is "abuse@mchsi.com". If as many people as possible would email them and POLITELY ask them to remove the block, it might help. Most especially if you are a Mediacom customer. It might even be interesting if they got a lot of phone calls, too. hehehehe Thanks for the soapbox. Jim From matteversmansix@gmail.com Thu Nov 1 09:05:10 2007 From: matteversmansix@gmail.com (Twombley) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 04:05:10 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness In-Reply-To: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> References: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> Message-ID: Call the Moline office, they are in the fone book. Ask to speak the VP in charge of this terroritory, Scott Westerman. My name is Scott Westerman and I'm the Region Vice President for Mediacom with responsiblity for Northern Illinois. If you'd like, please feel free to send me a note or call me directly and we'll get working on this. 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If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return email, and delete this email, along with any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hall Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:06 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness All of us Internet Revealed customers have had a hard time recently. The storm seems to be over for most of us, but there is one issue left. During all this someone with a Revealed address unwittingly became a spammer (that's the one that got the FBI involved, I think). Mediacom blocked ALL of Revealed's network. The problem has since been fixed, but Mediacom won't talk to Revealed or unblock them. I just sent a test to an mchsi address and got a failure notice. This means that I can't communicate with anyone with a mchsi address. It also means none of the rest of you folks with Revealed addresses can either. There is no person at Mediacom to talk to, and they're not answering Revealed's emails. I understand competition, but this seems like going too far, like dirty pool. After all, it's not Mediacoms Internet. I was told when I phoned them that the address at Mediacom is "abuse@mchsi.com". If as many people as possible would email them and POLITELY ask them to remove the block, it might help. Most especially if you are a Mediacom customer. It might even be interesting if they got a lot of phone calls, too. hehehehe Thanks for the soapbox. Jim _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From dbergert@dbergert.com Thu Nov 1 11:36:31 2007 From: dbergert@dbergert.com (David D. Bergert) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:36:31 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness In-Reply-To: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> References: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> Message-ID: Revealnet or Han Solo.net should work to have themselves removed from some of the Spam block lists, it is more likely that Mediacom and other ISP's use RBL's rather then individually created ones to gain market dominance in the quad cities especially against linux users, who Mediacom wouldn't be able to install on anyway ;) ;) ;) http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=74.207.8.9 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=63.74.149.129 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=74.207.8.9 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=63.74.149.183 Received: from unknown (HELO edd.revealed.net) (74.207.8.9) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 02:16:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10894 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Nov 2007 02:16:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO revealed.net) (63.74.149.129) Message-ID: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> DB -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hall Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:06 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness All of us Internet Revealed customers have had a hard time recently. The storm seems to be over for most of us, but there is one issue left. During all this someone with a Revealed address unwittingly became a spammer (that's the one that got the FBI involved, I think). Mediacom blocked ALL of Revealed's network. The problem has since been fixed, but Mediacom won't talk to Revealed or unblock them. I just sent a test to an mchsi address and got a failure notice. This means that I can't communicate with anyone with a mchsi address. It also means none of the rest of you folks with Revealed addresses can either. There is no person at Mediacom to talk to, and they're not answering Revealed's emails. I understand competition, but this seems like going too far, like dirty pool. After all, it's not Mediacoms Internet. I was told when I phoned them that the address at Mediacom is "abuse@mchsi.com". If as many people as possible would email them and POLITELY ask them to remove the block, it might help. Most especially if you are a Mediacom customer. It might even be interesting if they got a lot of phone calls, too. hehehehe Thanks for the soapbox. Jim _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Brian.Dietz@gbe.com Thu Nov 1 22:09:55 2007 From: Brian.Dietz@gbe.com (Dietz, Brian) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:09:55 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] InstallFest at U of Iowa Message-ID: <7AD2EE452C6BF648B5996612EAC72346920156@SEBEV2PW.graybar.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi all, =20 While working on a project at the U of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics I came across the following (see http://acm.uiowa.edu/news.php ) I was just wondering if any of the the QCLUGs were involved with or knew about the (InstallFest?) ACM Linux Setup Party at the U of Iowa October 20th, 2007. I have been interested in something like this and was not sure if these were an actively shared with this LUG. I am very interested if something like this comes up again.=20 =20 Thanks again for those that responded to my last inquiry regarding "Residential Internet Options". I have read but not had the time to implement nor respond to the recommendations and comments. The responses have helped me with my upcoming decision.=20 =20 It is very interesting reading about all topics...I now realize I do not know much about Linux. However. I am hooked... =20 qclug@qclug.org I appologize if this request was already received...I think I have issues when I send through my gmail.com account =20 Brian Dietz ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/1db9ddd2/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Thu Nov 1 22:25:55 2007 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:25:55 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] InstallFest at U of Iowa In-Reply-To: <7AD2EE452C6BF648B5996612EAC72346920156@SEBEV2PW.graybar.com> References: <7AD2EE452C6BF648B5996612EAC72346920156@SEBEV2PW.graybar.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0711011525p6f11a2f7udcb36c2fe3b0a11@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 11/1/07, Dietz, Brian wrote: > > Hi all, > > While working on a project at the U of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics I came > across the following (see http://acm.uiowa.edu/news.php ) I was just > wondering if any of the the QCLUGs were involved with or knew about the > (InstallFest?) ACM Linux Setup Party at the U of Iowa October 20th, 2007. I > have been interested in something like this and was not sure if these were > an actively shared with this LUG. I am very interested if something like > this comes up again. > > Thanks again for those that responded to my last inquiry regarding > "Residential Internet Options". I have read but not had the time to > implement nor respond to the recommendations and comments. The responses > have helped me with my upcoming decision. > > It is very interesting reading about all topics...I now realize I do not > know much about Linux. However. I am hooked... > > qclug@qclug.org I appologize if this request was already received...I > think I have issues when I send through my gmail.com account > > Brian Dietz > Sounds like fun. Wish we'd heard about it soon enough to get a group together to go. One of the nicer things about Linux is that you'll never stop learning. Helps to keep the brain active. Unlike Windoze, which tends to kill most brain functions. My gmail account has also gone a little nuts. Anyone seen anything about this? Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/7206a9d7/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Nov 1 22:27:23 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:27:23 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] InstallFest at U of Iowa In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0711011525p6f11a2f7udcb36c2fe3b0a11@mail.gmail.com> References: <7AD2EE452C6BF648B5996612EAC72346920156@SEBEV2PW.graybar.com> <997c8c1b0711011525p6f11a2f7udcb36c2fe3b0a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580711011527y4093ad64j597c96d7b700b486@mail.gmail.com> gmail seems to work fine for me On Nov 1, 2007 5:25 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > On 11/1/07, Dietz, Brian wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > While working on a project at the U of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics I came > across the following (see http://acm.uiowa.edu/news.php ) I was just > wondering if any of the the QCLUGs were involved with or knew about the > (InstallFest?) ACM Linux Setup Party at the U of Iowa October 20th, 2007. I > have been interested in something like this and was not sure if these were > an actively shared with this LUG. I am very interested if something like > this comes up again. > > > > Thanks again for those that responded to my last inquiry regarding > "Residential Internet Options". I have read but not had the time to > implement nor respond to the recommendations and comments. The responses > have helped me with my upcoming decision. > > > > It is very interesting reading about all topics...I now realize I do not > know much about Linux. However. I am hooked... > > > > qclug@qclug.org I appologize if this request was already received...I > think I have issues when I send through my gmail.com account > > > > Brian Dietz > > > > Sounds like fun. Wish we'd heard about it soon enough to get a group > together to go. > > One of the nicer things about Linux is that you'll never stop learning. > Helps to keep the brain active. Unlike Windoze, which tends to kill most > brain functions. > > My gmail account has also gone a little nuts. Anyone seen anything about > this? > > Jim > From Brian.Dietz@gbe.com Fri Nov 2 21:04:04 2007 From: Brian.Dietz@gbe.com (Dietz, Brian) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:04:04 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] FW: InstallFest at U of Iowa Message-ID: <7AD2EE452C6BF648B5996612EAC72346920760@SEBEV2PW.graybar.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi all, =20 While working on a project at the U of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics I came across the following (see http://acm.uiowa.edu/news.php ) I was just wondering if any of the the QCLUGs were involved with or knew about the (InstallFest?) ACM Linux Setup Party at the U of Iowa October 20th, 2007. I have been interested in something like this and was not sure if these were an actively shared with this LUG. I am very interested if something like this comes up again.=20 =20 Thanks again for those that responded to my last inquiry regarding "Residential Internet Options". I have read but not had the time to implement nor respond to the recommendations and comments. The responses have helped me with my upcoming decision.=20 =20 It is very interesting reading about all topics...I now realize I do not know much about Linux. However. I am hooked... =20 qclug@qclug.org I appologize if this request was already received...I think I have issues when I send through my gmail.com account =20 Brian Dietz ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/d7981b9b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From lynphisar@mchsi.com Sun Nov 4 15:37:09 2007 From: lynphisar@mchsi.com (Pat Schaubroeck) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:37:09 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness In-Reply-To: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> References: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> Message-ID: <472DE725.6080101@mchsi.com> Jim Hall wrote: > All of us Internet Revealed customers have had a hard time recently. > The storm seems to be over for most of us, but there is one issue > left. During all this someone with a Revealed address unwittingly > became a spammer (that's the one that got the FBI involved, I think). > Mediacom blocked ALL of Revealed's network. The problem has since been > fixed, but Mediacom won't talk to Revealed or unblock them. I just > sent a test to an mchsi address and got a failure notice. This means > that I can't communicate with anyone with a mchsi address. It also > means none of the rest of you folks with Revealed addresses can either. > > There is no person at Mediacom to talk to, and they're not answering > Revealed's emails. I understand competition, but this seems like going > too far, like dirty pool. After all, it's not Mediacoms Internet. > > I was told when I phoned them that the address at Mediacom is > "abuse@mchsi.com". If as many people as possible would email them and > POLITELY ask them to remove the block, it might help. Most especially > if you are a Mediacom customer. It might even be interesting if they > got a lot of phone calls, too. hehehehe > > Thanks for the soapbox. > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > I received this so I guess some are getting through. Pat Schaubroeck From preludelinux@gmail.com Mon Nov 5 14:34:14 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 08:34:14 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mediacom silliness In-Reply-To: <472DE725.6080101@mchsi.com> References: <472942A9.8020608@revealed.net> <472DE725.6080101@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580711050634x21ed7174tcbadbd71478ec581@mail.gmail.com> Has this been fixed yet ( i don't use mchsi.com much cause i can not download and upload mail from outside there network ) If they been reported as a spam alot more then just mediacom will not except there mail. Are they going to keep there DSL customers or they dumping you all to SBC (IL) and Quest (iowa) ? ( thats what i got from there public info there just a wimax company kinda sad have anyone checked out there prices whos gona buy 1.5mbps for $60 + installation qconline will be offering theres cheaper) I thought that WiMax was going to be fast or as fast as Cable/Dsl On Nov 4, 2007 9:37 AM, Pat Schaubroeck wrote: > > Jim Hall wrote: > > All of us Internet Revealed customers have had a hard time recently. > > The storm seems to be over for most of us, but there is one issue > > left. During all this someone with a Revealed address unwittingly > > became a spammer (that's the one that got the FBI involved, I think). > > Mediacom blocked ALL of Revealed's network. The problem has since been > > fixed, but Mediacom won't talk to Revealed or unblock them. I just > > sent a test to an mchsi address and got a failure notice. This means > > that I can't communicate with anyone with a mchsi address. It also > > means none of the rest of you folks with Revealed addresses can either. > > > > There is no person at Mediacom to talk to, and they're not answering > > Revealed's emails. I understand competition, but this seems like going > > too far, like dirty pool. After all, it's not Mediacoms Internet. > > > > I was told when I phoned them that the address at Mediacom is > > "abuse@mchsi.com". If as many people as possible would email them and > > POLITELY ask them to remove the block, it might help. Most especially > > if you are a Mediacom customer. It might even be interesting if they > > got a lot of phone calls, too. hehehehe > > > > Thanks for the soapbox. > > > > Jim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > I received this so I guess some are getting through. > > Pat Schaubroeck > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com Wed Nov 7 15:07:36 2007 From: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com (Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:07:36 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Heads up for server relocation.. Message-ID: <200711070907.36843.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> I've got not hard dates just yet, but I will be moving the server that the qclug resides on to a different hosting provider in the next couple of weeks. I'm still waiting for some final information (IPs and such) I will attempt to give more information as the move date becomes more apparent. rk From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Nov 15 00:38:28 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:38:28 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu Message-ID: <65dc1580711141638v4e2b0084nd5d04bf73d5fbdb3@mail.gmail.com> at last nights meeting someone had Instability with ubuntu 7.10 did disabling the eye-candy fix your problem ? does the card have a fan and is the fan working ok you can run nvidia-settings and should be able to see temp info about the card there. ( nvidia-settings is installed part of the nvidia driver its a gui program for setting options and hotpluging displays for nvidia cards also nvidia-xconfig is installed which is a command line tool neither gets menu entries) you using the 7.10 configured xorg.conf or 7.04 xorg.conf ( asking cause they added some option for nvidia cards to work better witht he eyecandy) you have an nvidia 7300 , might need to see whats going on with all hardware and modules loaded is it agp or pcix ? install openssh get the computer to hard lock then log on remotely to see if you can access logs / system massages from what you explained . it sounded like an eyecandy related problem that happened with certain ati x300-x600 cards From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Nov 15 00:48:33 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:48:33 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] walmart had a 200 doller linux pc , had due to it being sold out Message-ID: <65dc1580711141648i5c55ed78g7844c3811570f9af@mail.gmail.com> walmart started selling a $200 pc with Gos installed it sold out in minutes . stats of the system where cd/rw/dvd 80 gb HD 1.5 ghz via 512 mb - ram sound lan usb keyboard and mouse case Gos ( google integrated ubuntu 7.10 ) note it seems allot of people actual thought windows was installed and ended up liking Linux now if only we could get machines in all retail stores (staples best buy ...... etc etc) but its nice that the product got sold out , this product was suppose to be in stores and on online stores how's that for demand From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 15 01:15:44 2007 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:15:44 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December Message-ID: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting at Panera. I make two requests for this - 1. Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has been very nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get a lot of people who plan on showing. If we do get a large response, we plan on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for an evening. 2. If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat screen monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or monitors around the house for this purpose. I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting! Randy agamotto@sbcglobal.net From mriedesel@gmail.com Thu Nov 15 03:09:39 2007 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:09:39 +0700 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1c9537490711141909w3d8e165fi8ce2023b6c51f9b4@mail.gmail.com> I missed last month's meeting due to being in Vietnam, but I hope to attend the December meeting, I can most likely bring my 20" LCD with DVI-input. I would recommend we find somewhere else other than Panera if we're going to be doing that though, especially this time of year, it seems like Panera gets considerably more crowded (early christmas shoppers, people gorging themselves with carbs and hot soup due to the cold weather). -Mark On 11/15/07, agamotto wrote: > I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting at > Panera. I make two requests for this - > > 1. Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has been very > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get a > lot of people who plan on showing. If we do get a large response, we plan > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for an > evening. > > 2. If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat screen > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or > monitors around the house for this purpose. > > I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting! > > Randy > agamotto@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Nov 15 06:17:23 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:17:23 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <1c9537490711141909w3d8e165fi8ce2023b6c51f9b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490711141909w3d8e165fi8ce2023b6c51f9b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580711142217r7c9e4634g9fcc5b13647835ba@mail.gmail.com> I would love to see more demos and some experiments i fully agree with needing another location if demos are going to be done at meetings, plus that place is a madhouse all winter long..... i could get a room with a projector in blackhawk college might even be able to attract a crowd hey if i had prior notice i could get a whole lab ...... ( i would love to do a demo of LTSP with an open-mosix configuration ) {so basicly every system would boot from the main system but all become an open-mosix's node and share tasks and memory} i would love to see some real world examples too like integrating samba with active directory ( might attract allot of people from the msce classes) and many others like comparing linux apps to windows apps or just demoing different linux apps there uses and installs On Nov 14, 2007 9:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > I missed last month's meeting due to being in Vietnam, but I hope to > attend the December meeting, I can most likely bring my 20" LCD with > DVI-input. > > I would recommend we find somewhere else other than Panera if we're > going to be doing that though, especially this time of year, it seems > like Panera gets considerably more crowded (early christmas shoppers, > people gorging themselves with carbs and hot soup due to the cold > weather). > > -Mark > > > On 11/15/07, agamotto wrote: > > I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting at > > Panera. I make two requests for this - > > > > 1. Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has been very > > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get a > > lot of people who plan on showing. If we do get a large response, we plan > > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for an > > evening. > > > > 2. If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat screen > > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or > > monitors around the house for this purpose. > > > > I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting! > > > > Randy > > agamotto@sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From robmohr@earthnet.net Thu Nov 15 17:44:16 2007 From: robmohr@earthnet.net (robmohr@earthnet.net) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:44:16 -0700 Subject: [QCLUG] grub loader question SuSE 10.2 vs SuSE 10.2 ( Xen ) Message-ID: <20071115104416.bn77jfzg5csoc88o@webmail.earthnet.net> Hello lug, I am working an R^3 ( R-Cubed ) supplied with SuSE. The grub loader offers the default option of SuSE 10.2. Then on the next line down it offers SuSE 10.2 (Xen). Is not Xen an emulator package? I always select the default. What is the second option, what is its typical use? What is the advantage booting 10.2 ( Xen ) instead of the default SuSE 10.2? Cordially, Rob Mohr PS this Z62FM notebook ( made in China ) is a bit quirky in that every 20-30 starts it will hang up on the BIOS process, before grub, and it will require a battery disconnect. Rcubed has a one-year warranty; about 5 months to go. Should I raise this as an issue? ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.earthnet.net Boulder's Premier Datacenter From jmkris@gmail.com Thu Nov 15 18:25:18 2007 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:25:18 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711142217r7c9e4634g9fcc5b13647835ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490711141909w3d8e165fi8ce2023b6c51f9b4@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580711142217r7c9e4634g9fcc5b13647835ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree, Panera's does not seem to be a good option for setting up a desktop, I also would like to see demos, and Blackhawk seems like a great option. And thanks again for all the noob help I received on my laptop at the last meeting. I showed off my Linux eye candy after Wednesdays Quad Cities Computer Society meeting, and heard a lot of wows, I did not know Linux came that far, and how can I get that. I'm bigger on the no virus or spyware and meager system requirements than the eye candy, but it's the eye candy that gets peoples attention. Jim Kristan On Nov 15, 2007 12:17 AM, Noah Norris wrote: > I would love to see more demos and some experiments > > i fully agree with needing another location if demos are going to be > done at meetings, > plus that place is a madhouse all winter long..... > > i could get a room with a projector in blackhawk college might even be > able to attract a crowd > hey if i had prior notice i could get a whole lab ...... ( i would > love to do a demo of LTSP with an open-mosix > configuration ) {so basicly every system would boot from the main > system but all become an open-mosix's > node and share tasks and memory} > > i would love to see some real world examples too > > like integrating samba with active directory ( might attract allot of > people from the msce classes) > and many others like comparing linux apps to windows apps or just > demoing different linux apps there uses and installs > > > > > On Nov 14, 2007 9:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > > I missed last month's meeting due to being in Vietnam, but I hope to > > attend the December meeting, I can most likely bring my 20" LCD with > > DVI-input. > > > > I would recommend we find somewhere else other than Panera if we're > > going to be doing that though, especially this time of year, it seems > > like Panera gets considerably more crowded (early christmas shoppers, > > people gorging themselves with carbs and hot soup due to the cold > > weather). > > > > -Mark > > > > > > On 11/15/07, agamotto wrote: > > > I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting at > > > Panera. I make two requests for this - > > > > > > 1. Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has been very > > > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get a > > > lot of people who plan on showing. If we do get a large response, we plan > > > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for an > > > evening. > > > > > > 2. If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat screen > > > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or > > > monitors around the house for this purpose. > > > > > > I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting! > > > > > > Randy > > > agamotto@sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From acjohnson@pcdomain.com Thu Nov 15 19:39:37 2007 From: acjohnson@pcdomain.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:39:37 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] grub loader question SuSE 10.2 vs SuSE 10.2 ( Xen ) Rob- Xen is actually a virtualization platform that is by default included in th= e SuSE 10.2 distribution. It is used to run virtual machines using the open= source Xen Hypervisor (check it out at xen.org). The Xen grub boot loader option loads a specially modified kernel that is r= equired in order to use Xen virtualization. This is the only benefit in usi= ng the Xen kernel.=20 Does this answer your question? -----Original Message----- From: robmohr@earthnet.net To: qclug@qclug.org Sent: 11/15/2007 11:44 AM Subject: [QCLUG] grub loader question SuSE 10.2 vs SuSE 10.2 ( Xen ) Hello lug, I am working an R^3 ( R-Cubed ) supplied with SuSE. The grub loader =20 offers the default option of SuSE 10.2. Then on the next line down it =20 offers SuSE 10.2 (Xen). Is not Xen an emulator package? I always select the default. What is =20 the second option, what is its typical use? What is the advantage =20 booting 10.2 ( Xen ) instead of the default SuSE 10.2? Cordially, Rob Mohr PS this Z62FM notebook ( made in China ) is a bit quirky in that every =20 20-30 starts i [truncated by sender]= From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 16 00:29:30 2007 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:29:30 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711141638v4e2b0084nd5d04bf73d5fbdb3@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580711141638v4e2b0084nd5d04bf73d5fbdb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473CE46A.6030309@sbcglobal.net> Noah Norris wrote: > at last nights meeting someone had Instability with ubuntu 7.10 did > disabling the > eye-candy fix your problem ? > Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so far, so I think it is safe to say it is software. I checked gkrellm, and all of the temp sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F. When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig deeper. From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 16 00:31:48 2007 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:31:48 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <1c9537490711141909w3d8e165fi8ce2023b6c51f9b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490711141909w3d8e165fi8ce2023b6c51f9b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473CE4F4.8060101@sbcglobal.net> Mark Riedesel wrote: > I missed last month's meeting due to being in Vietnam, but I hope to > attend the December meeting, I can most likely bring my 20" LCD with > DVI-input. > > I would recommend we find somewhere else other than Panera if we're > going to be doing that though, especially this time of year, it seems > like Panera gets considerably more crowded (early christmas shoppers, > people gorging themselves with carbs and hot soup due to the cold > weather). > > -Mark Good advice, and thank you for volunteering the monitor... can't wait to hear about Vietnam. Noah, think you could get us a room somewhere at BlackHawk? From leif.theden@gmail.com Fri Nov 16 07:21:16 2007 From: leif.theden@gmail.com (Leif Theden) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:21:16 +0900 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9a65bf850711152321w1c756923i36e3fc2d4ad373c7@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have any contacts with Blackhawk? Maybe we could open this up for some other students there, or some faculty or regular people. Last year at Augustana, we had a student demo a modded Xbox running linux and some sort of video player/ music frontend. The name of it escapes me... Anyway, DVR's and home theater systems are pretty popular and the concepts, I think, are easily graspsed by even non geeks. We obviously dont need Xboxes, but media devices like that have a huge draw to people. Maybe we could use this to show that Linux is viable outside of the server closet? (i just read norris's email...we have the same idea, i think...) And I am also returning from asia...China, Taiwan, and Japan! Can't wait to hear about the meeting. On Nov 15, 2007 10:15 AM, agamotto wrote: > I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting at > Panera. I make two requests for this - > > 1. Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has been very > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get a > lot of people who plan on showing. If we do get a large response, we plan > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for an > evening. > > 2. If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat screen > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or > monitors around the house for this purpose. > > I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting! > > Randy > agamotto@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From preludelinux@gmail.com Fri Nov 16 15:42:46 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:42:46 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <473CE46A.6030309@sbcglobal.net> References: <65dc1580711141638v4e2b0084nd5d04bf73d5fbdb3@mail.gmail.com> <473CE46A.6030309@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <65dc1580711160742k1bf32958g8422bf128ff21f18@mail.gmail.com> search for some other with the problem ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos ) hmm heres a thread that mentions a couple problem down a lil bit mentions a bug with hard lock with nvidia 7XXX xcards odd i have a 7600 and no problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/144732 very long long thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3746154 this one hits 7300 cards ... ( seems that 7300 has bugs maybe a driver issue try envy ) http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905&page=9 On Nov 15, 2007 6:29 PM, agamotto wrote: > Noah Norris wrote: > > at last nights meeting someone had Instability with ubuntu 7.10 did > > disabling the > > eye-candy fix your problem ? > > > > Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so far, so I think > it is safe to say it is software. I checked gkrellm, and all of the temp > sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F. > > When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig deeper. > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From preludelinux@gmail.com Fri Nov 16 16:36:01 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:36:01 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <9a65bf850711152321w1c756923i36e3fc2d4ad373c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> <9a65bf850711152321w1c756923i36e3fc2d4ad373c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580711160836r39d24a3ei23090fcf4e9e3eb@mail.gmail.com> I'm a student at blackhawk and I have asked around all ready its very possible to have a room, i would have to work out parking to but should not be an issue in the evening because the college gets empty. ( just have to have a way for security to know not to issue tickets) also from what i gathered we do not have to become part of black hawk college in order to meet there atip is not part of blackhawk and meets in blackhawk and WIU What time to get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? ( 12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 ) would anyone else be able to make it on a different day ( that will not effect current members ) i think this could open up some new ideas. we can do demos and attract a crowd *we could do a demo day during the colleges pc repair day ( fix pc for free ) i was there 12 hours last time ..... we can do live (on a Linux box) answers to question on days we have time for them ( i would like to do X can anyone show me how tonight ) we can do more demoing and be in an environment where we can hear each other (* the pc repair day is advertised in the school and on radio / tv ... add a linux demo day to that might have a big turn out its hold twice a year ) might be possible to be able to use class pc's with swapable hard drives that can have Linux installs on them and vga projector access for demos and impress presentation and im sure many more ideas On Nov 16, 2007 1:21 AM, Leif Theden wrote: > Does anyone have any contacts with Blackhawk? Maybe we could open > this up for some other students there, or some faculty or regular > people. Last year at Augustana, we had a student demo a modded Xbox > running linux and some sort of video player/ music frontend. The name > of it escapes me... Anyway, DVR's and home theater systems are pretty > popular and the concepts, I think, are easily graspsed by even non > geeks. We obviously dont need Xboxes, but media devices like that > have a huge draw to people. Maybe we could use this to show that > Linux is viable outside of the server closet? > > (i just read norris's email...we have the same idea, i think...) > > And I am also returning from asia...China, Taiwan, and Japan! Can't > wait to hear about the meeting. > > > On Nov 15, 2007 10:15 AM, agamotto wrote: > > I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting at > > Panera. I make two requests for this - > > > > 1. Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has been very > > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get a > > lot of people who plan on showing. If we do get a large response, we plan > > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for an > > evening. > > > > 2. If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat screen > > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or > > monitors around the house for this purpose. > > > > I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting! > > > > Randy > > agamotto@sbcglobal.net > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From preludelinux@gmail.com Sat Nov 17 16:42:58 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:42:58 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] google going for the 700 mhz spectrum Message-ID: <65dc1580711170842n49e73f2fx57c20e98902f7ed4@mail.gmail.com> Google.com is going for the 700 mhz spectrum there going to bid 4.6 billion up front on the said spectrum. I believe this may get interesting with google also making a phone, ( Gphone ) battling for open access for carriers, and making there own ISP thats all neutral My thought this is about the phone monopolies pissing off google by wanting to charge for customeries to connect to googles services Could they do what AOL did for dialup make a cheap pc that works with all google's services and used there network for isp for a low cost ? ( like the Gos pc being sold in walmart that got sold out.) From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sun Nov 18 00:12:41 2007 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:12:41 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711160836r39d24a3ei23090fcf4e9e3eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> <9a65bf850711152321w1c756923i36e3fc2d4ad373c7@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580711160836r39d24a3ei23090fcf4e9e3eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0711171612w2b879885mee321585d03ad1a2@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Nov 16, 2007 10:36 AM, Noah Norris wrote: > I'm a student at blackhawk and I have asked around all ready its very > possible to > have a room, i would have to work out parking to but should not be an > issue in the evening > because the college gets empty. ( just have to have a way for security > to know not to issue tickets) > also from what i gathered we do not have to become part of black hawk > college in order to meet there > atip is not part of blackhawk and meets in blackhawk and WIU > > What time to get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? ( > 12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 ) > would anyone else be able to make it on a different day ( that will > not effect current members ) > > > If we can meet there without selling our soul, go for it. I would suggest not running later than 8 to 8:30. We are only doing one thing with possible tie-ins to other related goodies. Don't push the time, some of us have to get up early the next day. Also, keep the day the same. Getting too "erratic" all at once could be a bad thing. We'll wind up spending a lot of time arguing about a day and getting irritated with each other. BTW, I will probably be bringing a guest (from church staff). He's VERY interested in the Mythbox and other related security possibilities. We've got a shot here, folks. Let's make the most of it. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/870041db/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 19 03:02:38 2007 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:02:38 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711160742k1bf32958g8422bf128ff21f18@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580711141638v4e2b0084nd5d04bf73d5fbdb3@mail.gmail.com> <473CE46A.6030309@sbcglobal.net> <65dc1580711160742k1bf32958g8422bf128ff21f18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4740FCCE.60204@sbcglobal.net> Noah Norris wrote: > search for some other with the problem > ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock > ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia > drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy > and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d > game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the > possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos > ) > > hmm heres a thread that mentions a couple problem down a lil bit > mentions a bug with hard lock with nvidia 7XXX xcards odd i have a > 7600 and no problems > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/144732 > very long long thread > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3746154 > this one hits 7300 cards ... ( seems that 7300 has bugs maybe a > driver issue try envy ) > http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905&page=9 > Thanks for the info, Noah. I will have some time this week to look at these and start puzzling out what is going nuts. From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 19 03:06:28 2007 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:06:28 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711160836r39d24a3ei23090fcf4e9e3eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <473B9DC0.5040302@sbcglobal.net> <9a65bf850711152321w1c756923i36e3fc2d4ad373c7@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580711160836r39d24a3ei23090fcf4e9e3eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4740FDB4.8040708@sbcglobal.net> Noah Norris wrote: > What time to get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? ( > 12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 ) > would anyone else be able to make it on a different day ( that will > not effect current members ) > I would say that we should keep it for 2nd Tuesday, unless we get a lot of requests for some other time/date on the list. From arronlorenz@gmail.com Mon Nov 19 05:53:43 2007 From: arronlorenz@gmail.com (Arron Lorenz) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:53:43 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] walmart had a 200 doller linux pc , had due to it being sold out In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711141648i5c55ed78g7844c3811570f9af@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580711141648i5c55ed78g7844c3811570f9af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <30cf66b30711182153v9e313c2j37ec5ceeb828e74e@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I downloaded Gos from there website http://www.thinkgos.com/ . I installed it onto a P3 700mhz with 512mb ram. I was pretty impressed with it. Using the enlightenment window manager (Very modified) was a good idea. It's pretty snappy. Also they made it ultra Mom friendly. They explain what each thing is. On there "Start" menu next to every app in describes what each one is used for. Also they make it clear where the "Control Panel" is. They are by no means making a Windows clone like http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/10/04/vixta-a-fedora-linux-based-windows-vista-clone/. I'm just saying for my use I have a neat little Linux machine for a web browsing station in my apartment. On Nov 14, 2007 6:48 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > walmart started selling a $200 pc with Gos installed it sold out in > minutes . > > stats of the system where > cd/rw/dvd > 80 gb HD > 1.5 ghz via > 512 mb - ram > sound lan usb > keyboard and mouse > case > Gos ( google integrated ubuntu 7.10 ) > > note it seems allot of people actual thought windows was installed and > ended up liking Linux now > if only we could get machines in all retail stores (staples best buy > ...... etc etc) > > but its nice that the product got sold out , this product was suppose > to be in stores and on online stores > > how's that for demand > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > -- From: Arron James Lorenz Reach Global Networks LLC MobileTek Inc 563-579-7046 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/003c60d8/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Mon Nov 19 18:28:04 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:28:04 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] walmart had a 200 doller linux pc , had due to it being sold out In-Reply-To: <30cf66b30711182153v9e313c2j37ec5ceeb828e74e@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580711141648i5c55ed78g7844c3811570f9af@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b30711182153v9e313c2j37ec5ceeb828e74e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580711191028lb5088d3ka6509499bc731368@mail.gmail.com> nice , been wanting to check that out its also based off of ubuntu 7.10 i have a p3 900 mhz laptop might try it on there On Nov 18, 2007 11:53 PM, Arron Lorenz wrote: > I downloaded Gos from there website http://www.thinkgos.com/ . I installed > it onto a P3 700mhz with 512mb ram. I was pretty impressed with it. Using > the enlightenment window manager (Very modified) was a good idea. It's > pretty snappy. Also they made it ultra Mom friendly. They explain what each > thing is. On there "Start" menu next to every app in describes what each one > is used for. Also they make it clear where the "Control Panel" is. They are > by no means making a Windows clone like > http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/10/04/vixta-a-fedora-linux-based-windows-vista-clone/ > . > > I'm just saying for my use I have a neat little Linux machine for a web > browsing station in my apartment. > > > > On Nov 14, 2007 6:48 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > > > > > > > > walmart started selling a $200 pc with Gos installed it sold out in > minutes . > > > > stats of the system where > > cd/rw/dvd > > 80 gb HD > > 1.5 ghz via > > 512 mb - ram > > sound lan usb > > keyboard and mouse > > case > > Gos ( google integrated ubuntu 7.10 ) > > > > note it seems allot of people actual thought windows was installed and > > ended up liking Linux now > > if only we could get machines in all retail stores (staples best buy > > ...... etc etc) > > > > but its nice that the product got sold out , this product was suppose > > to be in stores and on online stores > > > > how's that for demand > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > -- > From: > Arron James Lorenz > Reach Global Networks LLC > MobileTek Inc > 563-579-7046 From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 20 20:38:10 2007 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:38:10 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711160742k1bf32958g8422bf128ff21f18@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580711141638v4e2b0084nd5d04bf73d5fbdb3@mail.gmail.com> <473CE46A.6030309@sbcglobal.net> <65dc1580711160742k1bf32958g8422bf128ff21f18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474345B2.7070708@sbcglobal.net> Noah Norris wrote: > search for some other with the problem > ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock > ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia > drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy > and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d > game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the > possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos > >> Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so far, so I think >> it is safe to say it is software. I checked gkrellm, and all of the temp >> sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F. >> >> When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig deeper. I have been digging around in the Ubuntu forums, and it appears that Firefox is at the root of just about all of my problems. I uninstalled the 2.0.0.8 (I think that is right), and voila, I now only have problems when playing games under Cedega, which is not unusual. If you are running Gutsy and having various problems and lockups, uninstall Firefox until the issue with the add-ons is fixed. I hope this helps some people, as it was driving me nuts! From j.brun@mchsi.com Tue Nov 20 21:16:20 2007 From: j.brun@mchsi.com (j.brun@mchsi.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:16:20 +0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu Message-ID: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> I have been getting occasional lockups on Gusty on my laptop. Only when running firefox, but they have been rare. The windows machines in my office seem to completely seize when they come across the same sites...so i figured it was more of a web thing than system. ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: agamotto To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:38:20 +0000 > Noah Norris wrote: > > search for some other with the problem > > ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock > > ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia > > drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy > > and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d > > game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the > > possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos > > > > > >> Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so far, so I > think > >> it is safe to say it is software. I checked gkrellm, and all of the temp > >> sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F. > >> > >> When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig deeper. > > I have been digging around in the Ubuntu forums, and it appears that > Firefox is at the root of just about all of my problems. I uninstalled the > 2.0.0.8 (I think that is right), and voila, I now only have problems when > playing games under Cedega, which is not unusual. > > If you are running Gutsy and having various problems and lockups, > uninstall Firefox until the issue with the add-ons is fixed. > > I hope this helps some people, as it was driving me nuts! > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From j.brun@mchsi.com Wed Nov 21 13:54:31 2007 From: j.brun@mchsi.com (John Brun) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:54:31 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... In-Reply-To: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> References: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <47443897.8050104@mchsi.com> In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. Any ideas on what might be up? John From belthesar@belthesar.com Wed Nov 21 21:02:19 2007 From: belthesar@belthesar.com (Cody Wilson) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:02:19 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] walmart had a 200 doller linux pc , had due to it being sold out In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711191028lb5088d3ka6509499bc731368@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580711141648i5c55ed78g7844c3811570f9af@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b30711182153v9e313c2j37ec5ceeb828e74e@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580711191028lb5088d3ka6509499bc731368@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a123a8b0711211302p365478f8u50e0664bdf6432a@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Looks like you're all in luck. http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=204200535 It's baaaaaaaaaack. On 11/19/07, Noah Norris wrote: > > nice , been wanting to check that out > its also based off of ubuntu 7.10 > i have a p3 900 mhz laptop might try it on there > > On Nov 18, 2007 11:53 PM, Arron Lorenz wrote: > > I downloaded Gos from there website http://www.thinkgos.com/ . I > installed > > it onto a P3 700mhz with 512mb ram. I was pretty impressed with it. > Using > > the enlightenment window manager (Very modified) was a good idea. It's > > pretty snappy. Also they made it ultra Mom friendly. They explain what > each > > thing is. On there "Start" menu next to every app in describes what each > one > > is used for. Also they make it clear where the "Control Panel" is. They > are > > by no means making a Windows clone like > > > http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/10/04/vixta-a-fedora-linux-based-windows-vista-clone/ > > . > > > > I'm just saying for my use I have a neat little Linux machine for a web > > browsing station in my apartment. > > > > > > > > On Nov 14, 2007 6:48 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > walmart started selling a $200 pc with Gos installed it sold out in > > minutes . > > > > > > stats of the system where > > > cd/rw/dvd > > > 80 gb HD > > > 1.5 ghz via > > > 512 mb - ram > > > sound lan usb > > > keyboard and mouse > > > case > > > Gos ( google integrated ubuntu 7.10 ) > > > > > > note it seems allot of people actual thought windows was installed and > > > ended up liking Linux now > > > if only we could get machines in all retail stores (staples best buy > > > ...... etc etc) > > > > > > but its nice that the product got sold out , this product was suppose > > > to be in stores and on online stores > > > > > > how's that for demand > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > From: > > Arron James Lorenz > > Reach Global Networks LLC > > MobileTek Inc > > 563-579-7046 > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/f4b0a7a4/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Wed Nov 21 21:15:05 2007 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:15:05 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> References: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0711211315t5e57946cqdbcc01ef9a0ea2d6@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Nov 20, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: > I have been getting occasional lockups on Gusty on my laptop. Only when > running > firefox, but they have been rare. The windows machines in my office seem > to > completely seize when they come across the same sites...so i figured it > was more > of a web thing than system. > > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: agamotto > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:38:20 +0000 > > > Noah Norris wrote: > > > search for some other with the problem > > > ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock > > > ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia > > > drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy > > > and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d > > > game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the > > > possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos > > > > > > > > > >> Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so > far, so I > > think > > >> it is safe to say it is software. I checked gkrellm, and all of the > temp > > >> sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F. > > >> > > >> When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig > deeper. > > > > I have been digging around in the Ubuntu forums, and it appears > that > > Firefox is at the root of just about all of my problems. I uninstalled > the > > 2.0.0.8 (I think that is right), and voila, I now only have problems > when > > playing games under Cedega, which is not unusual. > > > > If you are running Gutsy and having various problems and lockups, > > uninstall Firefox until the issue with the add-ons is fixed. > > > > I hope this helps some people, as it was driving me nuts! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Which may be one of the reasons Debian is using Iceweasel (other that copyright issues)? Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/ae3affde/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Nov 22 01:36:02 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:36:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0711211315t5e57946cqdbcc01ef9a0ea2d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> <997c8c1b0711211315t5e57946cqdbcc01ef9a0ea2d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580711211736u4afc05ffldad8b12e88442a72@mail.gmail.com> Jim ..... its the same code as firefox its just branded as Iceweasel due to the branding issue firefox is trademarked and due to this debian thinks they should ship theres without the trademarked branding. ( to me this is confusing at least in a view point of new users ) it may very well be a flash /javascript / firefox / eyecandy ( seems to trigger the bug more) bug too but im having no problems with firefox ? you use many add ons maybe ? flash java or javascript could be the problem On Nov 21, 2007 3:15 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2007 3:16 PM, wrote: > > > I have been getting occasional lockups on Gusty on my laptop. Only when > running > > firefox, but they have been rare. The windows machines in my office seem > to > > completely seize when they come across the same sites...so i figured it > was more > > of a web thing than system. > > > > > > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > > From: agamotto > > To: qclug@qclug.org > > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu > > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:38:20 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > Noah Norris wrote: > > > > search for some other with the problem > > > > ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock > > > > ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia > > > > drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy > > > > and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d > > > > game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the > > > > possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so > far, so I > > > think > > > >> it is safe to say it is software. I checked gkrellm, and all of the > temp > > > >> sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F. > > > >> > > > >> When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig > deeper. > > > > > > I have been digging around in the Ubuntu forums, and it appears > that > > > Firefox is at the root of just about all of my problems. I uninstalled > the > > > 2.0.0.8 (I think that is right), and voila, I now only have problems > when > > > playing games under Cedega, which is not unusual. > > > > > > If you are running Gutsy and having various problems and lockups, > > > uninstall Firefox until the issue with the add-ons is fixed. > > > > > > I hope this helps some people, as it was driving me nuts! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Which may be one of the reasons Debian is using Iceweasel (other that > copyright issues)? > > Jim > From swzaske@yahoo.com Thu Nov 22 01:44:19 2007 From: swzaske@yahoo.com (swzaske) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:44:19 -0600 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... In-Reply-To: <47443897.8050104@mchsi.com> References: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> <47443897.8050104@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <4744DEF3.7000901@yahoo.com> Have you tried PCLos 2007 yet? It seems to be superior in hardware recognition. I've used it in several boxes and they were all configured correctly without issue. Happy turkey day! John Brun wrote: > In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I > prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and > require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to > be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' > things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) > > Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that > I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither > fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the > fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, > the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. > Any ideas on what might be up? > > > John > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From j.brun@mchsi.com Thu Nov 22 12:36:25 2007 From: j.brun@mchsi.com (j.brun@mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:36:25 +0000 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Message-ID: <112220071236.15587.474577C90003E49500003CE3219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> I had a PIII 800 laptop that I ran PCLinuxOS on until I dropped the damn thing, and yes the hardware recognition, wireless, and others things about it were just marvelous. I want to run a redhat distro at home because that is what the main systems at work are using. I am running Ubuntu on my laptop because the school my step-son is attending is looking a major computer purchase, with the possibility of using Edubuntu as the OS. I would like to be "expert" enough in Ubuntu's ways to help this process along. I am thinking my problem with writing to the drive lies in the SElinux enforcing mode, but haven't been able to read much about it yet. John ps. Happy Thanksgiving! ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: swzaske To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:30:56 +0000 > Have you tried PCLos 2007 yet? It seems to be superior in hardware > recognition. I've used it in several boxes and they were all configured > correctly without issue. Happy turkey day! > > > John Brun wrote: > > In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I > > prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and > > require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to > > be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' > > things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) > > > > Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that > > I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither > > fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the > > fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, > > the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. > > Any ideas on what might be up? > > > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From dbergert@dbergert.com Thu Nov 22 13:41:45 2007 From: dbergert@dbergert.com (David D. Bergert) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:41:45 -0600 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... In-Reply-To: <112220071236.15587.474577C90003E49500003CE3219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> References: <112220071236.15587.474577C90003E49500003CE3219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> Message-ID: What file system is the drive ? what are the permissions on the directory that your are mounting it to ? DB -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of j.brun@mchsi.com Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:36 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... I had a PIII 800 laptop that I ran PCLinuxOS on until I dropped the damn thing, and yes the hardware recognition, wireless, and others things about it were just marvelous. I want to run a redhat distro at home because that is what the main systems at work are using. I am running Ubuntu on my laptop because the school my step-son is attending is looking a major computer purchase, with the possibility of using Edubuntu as the OS. I would like to be "expert" enough in Ubuntu's ways to help this process along. I am thinking my problem with writing to the drive lies in the SElinux enforcing mode, but haven't been able to read much about it yet. John ps. Happy Thanksgiving! ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: swzaske To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:30:56 +0000 > Have you tried PCLos 2007 yet? It seems to be superior in hardware > recognition. I've used it in several boxes and they were all configured > correctly without issue. Happy turkey day! > > > John Brun wrote: > > In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I > > prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and > > require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to > > be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' > > things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) > > > > Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that > > I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither > > fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the > > fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, > > the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. > > Any ideas on what might be up? > > > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From dbergert@dbergert.com Thu Nov 22 13:46:03 2007 From: dbergert@dbergert.com (David D. Bergert) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:46:03 -0600 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... In-Reply-To: <112220071236.15587.474577C90003E49500003CE3219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> References: <112220071236.15587.474577C90003E49500003CE3219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> Message-ID: What does your /etc/fstab look like ? Here is a thread that sound like a similar problem: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=80345 does /dev/sda1 /mnt/mnttpoint vfat defaults 0 0 Or /dev/sda1 /mnt/mntpoint vfat rw,users,umask=000 0 0 Work ? -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of j.brun@mchsi.com Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:36 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... I had a PIII 800 laptop that I ran PCLinuxOS on until I dropped the damn thing, and yes the hardware recognition, wireless, and others things about it were just marvelous. I want to run a redhat distro at home because that is what the main systems at work are using. I am running Ubuntu on my laptop because the school my step-son is attending is looking a major computer purchase, with the possibility of using Edubuntu as the OS. I would like to be "expert" enough in Ubuntu's ways to help this process along. I am thinking my problem with writing to the drive lies in the SElinux enforcing mode, but haven't been able to read much about it yet. John ps. Happy Thanksgiving! ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: swzaske To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:30:56 +0000 > Have you tried PCLos 2007 yet? It seems to be superior in hardware > recognition. I've used it in several boxes and they were all configured > correctly without issue. Happy turkey day! > > > John Brun wrote: > > In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I > > prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and > > require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to > > be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' > > things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) > > > > Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that > > I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither > > fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the > > fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, > > the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. > > Any ideas on what might be up? > > > > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From j.brun@mchsi.com Thu Nov 22 13:59:10 2007 From: j.brun@mchsi.com (j.brun@mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:59:10 +0000 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Message-ID: <112220071359.17915.47458B2E000CC31E000045FB219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> file system is vfat. the directory doesn't allow me to change permissions, not even as root. John ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "David D. Bergert" To: Subject: RE: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:41:51 +0000 > What file system is the drive ? what are the permissions on the directory > that your are mounting it to ? > > DB > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > j.brun@mchsi.com > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:36 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... > > I had a PIII 800 laptop that I ran PCLinuxOS on until I dropped the damn > thing, > and yes the hardware recognition, wireless, and others things about it were > just > marvelous. > > I want to run a redhat distro at home because that is what the main systems > at > work are using. > > I am running Ubuntu on my laptop because the school my step-son is attending > is > looking a major computer purchase, with the possibility of using Edubuntu as > the > OS. I would like to be "expert" enough in Ubuntu's ways to help this > process along. > > I am thinking my problem with writing to the drive lies in the SElinux > enforcing > mode, but haven't been able to read much about it yet. > > John > > ps. Happy Thanksgiving! > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: swzaske > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:30:56 +0000 > > > Have you tried PCLos 2007 yet? It seems to be superior in hardware > > recognition. I've used it in several boxes and they were all configured > > correctly without issue. Happy turkey day! > > > > > > John Brun wrote: > > > In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I > > > prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and > > > require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to > > > be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' > > > things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) > > > > > > Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that > > > I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither > > > fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the > > > fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, > > > the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. > > > Any ideas on what might be up? > > > > > > > > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From j.brun@mchsi.com Thu Nov 22 14:01:20 2007 From: j.brun@mchsi.com (j.brun@mchsi.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:01:20 +0000 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Message-ID: <112220071401.20023.47458BB0000AB30500004E37219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> i use ..rw,users and not defaults. John ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- From: "David D. Bergert" To: Subject: RE: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:53:29 +0000 > What does your /etc/fstab look like ? > > Here is a thread that sound like a similar problem: > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=80345 > > > does > > /dev/sda1 /mnt/mnttpoint vfat defaults 0 0 > > Or > > /dev/sda1 /mnt/mntpoint vfat rw,users,umask=000 0 0 > > > Work ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > j.brun@mchsi.com > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:36 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... > > I had a PIII 800 laptop that I ran PCLinuxOS on until I dropped the damn > thing, > and yes the hardware recognition, wireless, and others things about it were > just > marvelous. > > I want to run a redhat distro at home because that is what the main systems > at > work are using. > > I am running Ubuntu on my laptop because the school my step-son is attending > is > looking a major computer purchase, with the possibility of using Edubuntu as > the > OS. I would like to be "expert" enough in Ubuntu's ways to help this > process along. > > I am thinking my problem with writing to the drive lies in the SElinux > enforcing > mode, but haven't been able to read much about it yet. > > John > > ps. Happy Thanksgiving! > > > ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- > From: swzaske > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... > Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:30:56 +0000 > > > Have you tried PCLos 2007 yet? It seems to be superior in hardware > > recognition. I've used it in several boxes and they were all configured > > correctly without issue. Happy turkey day! > > > > > > John Brun wrote: > > > In the past several years I have used 3 distros interchangeably. I > > > prefer SuSE, but the newest version keeps dropping the printer, and > > > require that I set it up almost every time I boot. Ubuntu seems to > > > be the perfect distro for my laptop, although there are 'working' > > > things I don't like about it. (I deplore apt-get) > > > > > > Redhat on the other hand works well except: I have a sata drive that > > > I mount to a folder in my home directory. I can read it, but neither > > > fedora nor redhat lets me write to it as a user. I have altered the > > > fstab file to show ..... ,rw,user.... but to no avail. As root, > > > the system tells me I don't have permissions to change the drive. > > > Any ideas on what might be up? > > > > > > > > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From vorlon@dodds.net Fri Nov 23 02:28:14 2007 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:28:14 -0800 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <65dc1580711211736u4afc05ffldad8b12e88442a72@mail.gmail.com> References: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> <997c8c1b0711211315t5e57946cqdbcc01ef9a0ea2d6@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580711211736u4afc05ffldad8b12e88442a72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071123022813.GH8304@dario.dodds.net> On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Noah Norris wrote: > Jim ..... its the same code as firefox its just branded as Iceweasel > due to the branding issue > firefox is trademarked and due to this debian thinks they should ship > theres without the trademarked branding. That is not an accurate representation of Debian's position. http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/10/18/gobuntu-has-already-failed > ( to me this is confusing at least in a view point of new users ) KDE and GNOME each have their own web browser which isn't firefox. Is that also confusing to new users? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. vorlon@debian.org http://www.debian.org/ From vorlon@dodds.net Fri Nov 23 02:31:59 2007 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:31:59 -0800 Subject: [Bulk] [QCLUG] I do not have permissions.... In-Reply-To: <112220071359.17915.47458B2E000CC31E000045FB219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> References: <112220071359.17915.47458B2E000CC31E000045FB219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <20071123023158.GI8304@dario.dodds.net> On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:59:10PM +0000, j.brun@mchsi.com wrote: > file system is vfat. the directory doesn't allow me to change permissions, not > even as root. Because vfat as a filesystem has no concept of permissions. You need to set the permissions for the entire vfat filesystem at mount time; see the description of the uid, gid, umask, dmask, and fmask mount options in the mount(8) manpage. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. vorlon@debian.org http://www.debian.org/ From preludelinux@gmail.com Fri Nov 23 14:17:48 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:17:48 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20071123022813.GH8304@dario.dodds.net> References: <112020072116.14122.47434EA40009C2130000372A219792676103010CD2079C080C03BF029A9D0DD206@mchsi.com> <997c8c1b0711211315t5e57946cqdbcc01ef9a0ea2d6@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580711211736u4afc05ffldad8b12e88442a72@mail.gmail.com> <20071123022813.GH8304@dario.dodds.net> Message-ID: <65dc1580711230617i1af64391v1f6dad0d2bcab8e4@mail.gmail.com> I honesty would like to know why firefox had to go out of there way to do this. debian dont release firefox branding because the branding itself goes against what open source is trying to obtain. ( you not permitted to modify any of the trademarked stuff or call firefox ... firefox with modification ) Also from what i read they don't want distro customizations or modified versions of firefox floating around.and want all changes to go to them before allowing it in firefox. So if debain wanted to patch a security bug they could as long as it didnt carry the firefox trademarks. The only thing i mentioned confusion for new users is most other web browsers are based off different engines all together now theres going to be 2 that are almost identical ( does debain go further to modify firefox with patches besides striping the trademarked bs out of it ? ) but thats also saying is if debain allows both to be installed now another thing intersting ubuntu allows both to be installed but defaults with firefox. ( plus new users are going to look where firefox is if there use to running it allot of people think firefox is an example of open source software) so basicly from more of what i read Iceweasal is a complete folk of the current code base of firefox ( minus trademarked stuff and talkback) do you think this is only gona stay a fork or do you think there gona head off in there own direction ? On Nov 22, 2007 8:28 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:36:02PM -0600, Noah Norris wrote: > > Jim ..... its the same code as firefox its just branded as Iceweasel > > due to the branding issue > > firefox is trademarked and due to this debian thinks they should ship > > theres without the trademarked branding. > > That is not an accurate representation of Debian's position. > > http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/10/18/gobuntu-has-already-failed > > > ( to me this is confusing at least in a view point of new users ) > > KDE and GNOME each have their own web browser which isn't firefox. Is that > also confusing to new users? > > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > vorlon@debian.org http://www.debian.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From preludelinux@gmail.com Fri Nov 30 02:53:24 2007 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:53:24 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] free computers Message-ID: <65dc1580711291853s536a0e94y14f5ab23915801a9@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment anyone like to have 2-3 alpha computers there 64 bit - 256 mb ram~ free to someone that wants to pick them up 309-631-4855 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/7c95f3ae/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--