[QCLUG] Re: QCLUG Digest, Vol 958, Issue 1

Todd McGreevy todd@admospheres.com
Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:31:57 -0000


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I will offer my conference room with high speed wifi and a projector screen
to the QCLUG if it ever needs it, fyi.
Thanks,
Todd McGreevy


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>   1. Re: Mythbuntu demonstration - December (agamotto)
>   2. Re: Mythbuntu demonstration - December (Leif Theden)
>   3. Re: Instability problem with ubuntu (Noah Norris)
>   4. Re: Mythbuntu demonstration - December (Noah Norris)
>   5. google going for the 700 mhz spectrum (Noah Norris)
>   6. Re: Mythbuntu demonstration - December (Jim Hall)
>   7. Re: Instability problem with ubuntu (agamotto)
>   8. Re: Mythbuntu demonstration - December (agamotto)
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> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:31:48 -0600
> From: agamotto <agamotto@sbcglobal.net>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December
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> Mark Riedesel wrote:
> > I missed last month's meeting due to being in Vietnam, but I hope to
> > attend the December meeting, I can most likely bring my 20" LCD with
> > DVI-input.
> >
> > I would recommend we find somewhere else other than Panera if we're
> > going to be doing that though, especially this time of year, it seems
> > like Panera gets considerably more crowded (early christmas shoppers,
> > people gorging themselves with carbs and hot soup due to the cold
> > weather).
> >
> > -Mark
>
>        Good advice, and thank you for volunteering the monitor... can't
> wait to
> hear about Vietnam.
>
>        Noah, think you could get us a room somewhere at BlackHawk?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:21:16 +0900
> From: "Leif Theden" <leif.theden@gmail.com>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December
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> Does anyone have any contacts with Blackhawk?  Maybe we could open
> this up for some other students there, or some faculty or regular
> people.  Last year at Augustana, we had a student demo a modded Xbox
> running linux and some sort of video player/ music frontend.  The name
> of it escapes me...  Anyway, DVR's and home theater systems are pretty
> popular and the concepts, I think, are easily graspsed by even non
> geeks.  We obviously dont need Xboxes, but media devices like that
> have a huge draw to people.  Maybe we could use this to show that
> Linux is viable outside of the server closet?
>
> (i just read norris's email...we have the same idea, i think...)
>
> And I am also returning from asia...China, Taiwan, and Japan!  Can't
> wait to hear about the meeting.
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 10:15 AM, agamotto <agamotto@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >        I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's meeting
> at
> > Panera.  I make two requests for this -
> >
> >        1.  Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera has
> been very
> > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we get
> a
> > lot of people who plan on showing.  If we do get a large response, we
> plan
> > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's for
> an
> > evening.
> >
> >        2.  If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19 flat
> screen
> > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions or
> > monitors around the house for this purpose.
> >
> >        I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting!
> >
> > Randy
> > agamotto@sbcglobal.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > QCLUG mailing list
> > QCLUG@qclug.org
> > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug
> >
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:42:46 -0600
> From: "Noah Norris" <preludelinux@gmail.com>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu
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> search for some other with the problem
> ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock
> ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia
> drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy
> and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d
> game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the
> possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos
> )
>
>  hmm heres a thread that mentions a couple problem down a lil bit
> mentions a bug with hard lock with nvidia 7XXX xcards odd i have a
> 7600 and no problems
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/144732
> very long long thread
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3746154
> this one hits 7300 cards ...  ( seems that 7300 has bugs maybe a
> driver issue try envy )
> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905&page=9
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 6:29 PM, agamotto <agamotto@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Noah Norris wrote:
> > > at last nights meeting someone had Instability with ubuntu 7.10 did
> > > disabling the
> > > eye-candy fix your problem ?
> > >
> >
> >         Yah, I turned off the eye-candy and the problem is gone so far,
> so I think
> > it is safe to say it is software.  I checked gkrellm, and all of the
> temp
> > sensors are fine, nothing above 105 F.
> >
> >         When I am willing to sit down and experiment, I might dig
> deeper.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > QCLUG mailing list
> > QCLUG@qclug.org
> > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:36:01 -0600
> From: "Noah Norris" <preludelinux@gmail.com>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December
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> I'm a student at blackhawk and I have asked around all ready its very
> possible to
> have a room, i would have to work out parking to but should not be an
> issue in the evening
> because the college gets empty. ( just have to have a way for security
> to know not to issue tickets)
> also from what i gathered we do not have to become part of black hawk
> college in order to meet there
> atip is not part of blackhawk and meets in blackhawk and WIU
>
> What time to get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? (
> 12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 )
> would anyone else be able to make it on a different day ( that will
> not effect current members )
>
> i think this could open up some new ideas.
>
> we can do demos and attract a crowd
> *we could do a demo day during the colleges pc repair day ( fix pc for
> free ) i was there 12 hours last time .....
> we can do live (on a Linux box) answers to question on days we have
> time  for them ( i would like to do X can anyone show me how tonight )
> we can do more demoing and be in an environment where we can hear each
> other
> (* the pc repair day is advertised in the school and on radio / tv ...
> add a linux demo day to that might have a big turn out
> its hold twice a year )
> might be possible to be able to use class pc's with swapable hard
> drives that can have Linux installs on them and vga projector access
> for demos and impress presentation
> and im sure many more ideas
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 1:21 AM, Leif Theden <leif.theden@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone have any contacts with Blackhawk?  Maybe we could open
> > this up for some other students there, or some faculty or regular
> > people.  Last year at Augustana, we had a student demo a modded Xbox
> > running linux and some sort of video player/ music frontend.  The name
> > of it escapes me...  Anyway, DVR's and home theater systems are pretty
> > popular and the concepts, I think, are easily graspsed by even non
> > geeks.  We obviously dont need Xboxes, but media devices like that
> > have a huge draw to people.  Maybe we could use this to show that
> > Linux is viable outside of the server closet?
> >
> > (i just read norris's email...we have the same idea, i think...)
> >
> > And I am also returning from asia...China, Taiwan, and Japan!  Can't
> > wait to hear about the meeting.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 10:15 AM, agamotto <agamotto@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > >        I plan on doing a Mythbuntu demonstration at next month's
> meeting at
> > > Panera.  I make two requests for this -
> > >
> > >        1.  Please let me know how many plan on attending, as Panera
> has been very
> > > nice to us so far, and I don't want to hog all of their space if we
> get a
> > > lot of people who plan on showing.  If we do get a large response, we
> plan
> > > on moving location for this meeting so as not to take over Panera's
> for an
> > > evening.
> > >
> > >        2.  If someone would be very nice and bring along a ~17 - 19
> flat screen
> > > monitor with vga or dvi output, as I don't have any spare televisions
> or
> > > monitors around the house for this purpose.
> > >
> > >        I look forward to seeing everyone at December's meeting!
> > >
> > > Randy
> > > agamotto@sbcglobal.net
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > QCLUG mailing list
> > > QCLUG@qclug.org
> > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > QCLUG mailing list
> > QCLUG@qclug.org
> > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug
> >
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:42:58 -0600
> From: "Noah Norris" <preludelinux@gmail.com>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: [QCLUG] google going for the 700 mhz spectrum
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> Google.com is going for the 700 mhz spectrum
> there going to bid 4.6 billion up front on the said spectrum.
>
> I believe this may get interesting with google also making a phone, (
> Gphone ) battling for open access
> for carriers, and making there own ISP thats all neutral
>
> My thought this is about the phone monopolies pissing off google by
> wanting to charge for customeries to connect to googles services
>
> Could they do what AOL did for dialup make a cheap pc that works with
> all google's services and used there network for isp
> for a low cost ? ( like the Gos pc being sold in walmart that got sold
> out.)
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:12:41 -0600
> From: "Jim Hall" <volunteer.jim@gmail.com>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December
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> On Nov 16, 2007 10:36 AM, Noah Norris <preludelinux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm a student at blackhawk and I have asked around all ready its very
> > possible to
> > have a room, i would have to work out parking to but should not be an
> > issue in the evening
> > because the college gets empty. ( just have to have a way for security
> > to know not to issue tickets)
> > also from what i gathered we do not have to become part of black hawk
> > college in order to meet there
> > atip is not part of blackhawk and meets in blackhawk and WIU
> >
> > What time to get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? (
> > 12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 )
> > would anyone else be able to make it on a different day ( that will
> > not effect current members )
> >
> >
> >
>
> If we can meet there without selling our soul, go for it. I would suggest
> not running later than 8 to 8:30. We are only doing one thing with
> possible
> tie-ins to other related goodies. Don't push the time, some of us have to
> get up early the next day.
>
> Also, keep the day the same. Getting too "erratic" all at once could be a
> bad thing. We'll wind up spending a lot of time arguing about a day and
> getting irritated with each other.
>
> BTW, I will probably be bringing a guest (from church staff). He's VERY
> interested in the Mythbox and other related security possibilities.
>
> We've got a shot here, folks. Let's make the most of it.
>
> Jim
>
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> On Nov 16, 2007 10:36 AM, Noah Norris &lt;<a href="mailto:
> preludelinux@gmail.com">preludelinux@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><div
> class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px
> solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> I&#39;m a student at blackhawk and I have asked around all ready its
> very<br>possible to<br>have a room, i would have to work out parking to but
> should not be an<br>issue in the evening<br>because the college gets empty.
> ( just have to have a way for security
> <br>to know not to issue tickets)<br>also from what i gathered we do not
> have to become part of black hawk<br>college in order to meet there<br>atip
> is not part of blackhawk and meets in blackhawk and WIU<br><br>What time to
> get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? (
> <br>12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 )<br>would anyone else be able to make it on a
> different day ( that will<br>not effect current members
> )<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br>If we can meet there without selling
> our soul, go for it. I would
> suggest not running later than 8 to 8:30. We are only doing one thing
> with possible tie-ins to other related goodies. Don&#39;t push the time,
> some of us have to get up early the next day.<br><br>Also, keep the day the
> same. Getting too &quot;erratic&quot; all at once could be a bad thing.
> We&#39;ll wind up spending a lot of time arguing about a day and getting
> irritated with each other.
> <br><br>BTW, I will probably be bringing a guest (from church staff).
> He&#39;s VERY interested in the Mythbox and other related security
> possibilities.<br><br>We&#39;ve got a shot here, folks. Let&#39;s make the
> most of it.
> <br><br>Jim<br>
>
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> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:02:38 -0600
> From: agamotto <agamotto@sbcglobal.net>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Instability problem with ubuntu
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> Noah Norris wrote:
> > search for some other with the problem
> > ubuntu 7.10 nvidia 7300 compiz hard lock
> > ive noticed other drivers can interact to cause problems with nvidia
> > drivers like some malfunctioning wifi cards. you can also install envy
> > and try to install the newest nvidia drivers, try to stress test on 3d
> > game if that works ok i would wait for compiz to be updated with the
> > possible fix if 3d games run fine ( like running doom3 or quake4 demos
> > )
> >
> >  hmm heres a thread that mentions a couple problem down a lil bit
> > mentions a bug with hard lock with nvidia 7XXX xcards odd i have a
> > 7600 and no problems
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/144732
> > very long long thread
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3746154
> > this one hits 7300 cards ...  ( seems that 7300 has bugs maybe a
> > driver issue try envy )
> > http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905&page=9
> >
>
>        Thanks for the info, Noah.  I will have some time this week to look
> at
> these and start puzzling out what is going nuts.
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:06:28 -0600
> From: agamotto <agamotto@sbcglobal.net>
> To: qclug@qclug.org
> Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Mythbuntu demonstration - December
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> Noah Norris wrote:
>
> > What time to get a room , keep second Tuesday of the month? (
> > 12-11-2007 6:30-10:00 )
> > would anyone else be able to make it on a different day ( that will
> > not effect current members )
> >
>        I would say that we should keep it for 2nd Tuesday, unless we get a
> lot of
> requests for some other time/date on the list.
>
>
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