[QCLUG] Linux VS MS

Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:04:57 -0500

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fully agreed

If a company can use openoffice firefox
and not be dependent on microsoft  ( have web based apps that run in firefox
etc )
then switching to linux is easy because all the software they are use to is
there for them

but with the push to vista now is really the time to push linux
vista will not run on 95% of all work enviroment pc's and require a high
reinvestment with the looks of doing it again in 3-5 years.

somewhat at first linux might have a higher total cost of ownership due to
training but in the long run it will not.

what is needed is a package to help the transition.

   1. Documentation thats easy to read and understand ( think this is
   starting to get better )
   2. A support network including ( docs, people, forums, groups, OS
   support, people local to them)
   3. Programs that help with setup of services.  (ease of hardware setup
   software install and server setup)
   4. ability to play media files / install closed driver ... or it just
   works with all it can work with easily
   5. and of course marketing  like crazy  ( we need more ads like
   spreadfirefox did but for everything  )

this also depends which market you want to go for too i believe we need to
focus on linux everywhere not just in schools and offices but everywhere.
attack all markets. the main problem is for us locally are we gona form a
group that people could find as a support network with issues and these
people could be normal end users and or companies.

also ever thought of doing demos for companies, schools, and  public, both
server side client side and normal desktop sides? ( still get that "whats
linux" response too much)

demoday ( its been awhile )  and installfest.

doing lug lectures , demo's  ( we would need to meet i think in a more
educational setting, i could get a room most likely at Blackhawk College )

much planning and commitment goes into these things it all depends on us we
gona be laid back and not really want to do anything and just talk about it
, or we gona do something and commit some time. i will commit my time.

On 9/15/07, RK <ronknapperpub@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> One thing I think may be missed in this discussion. Is
> it really Linux vs MS or open source vs MS? If we
> include the debate on moving to open source running on
> MS Office, so the move to XYZ distro of Linux becomes
> a virtual non-issue. If we can take the small steps of
> moving, as some of the earlier posts have advocated,
> local government agencies to such things as Mozilla
> Firefox and OpenOffice.org when it comes time to
> actually change operating systems there would be much
> less fight because they could use the same
> applications.
>
> Ron
>
> --- Jim Hall <volunteer@revealed.net> wrote:
>
> > Noah Norris wrote:
> > > someone needs computer parts .......  ( i think i
> > might have way to many )
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/13/07, *Jim Hall* <volunteer@revealed.net
> > > <mailto:volunteer@revealed.net>>  wrote:
> > >
> > >     Arron Lorenz wrote:
> > >      > Just to clarify i was just using Blue Grass
> > as an example of a small
> > >      > town that might be good to approach...
> > start off with the small towns
> > >      > and work our way up sort of thing.
> > >      >
> > >      > Arron
> > >      >
> > >
> > >     Dern it! I thought we had a toe in the door.
> > Doesn?t mean it
> > >     wouldn?t be
> > >     a good place to start.
> > >
> > >      >
> > >      >     Would be interesting if something could
> > be put together that
> > >     shows the
> > >      >     community the benefits of linux and
> > open source and how it can
> > >      >     impact their
> > >      >     business, community, etc...
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >     Cheers,
> > >      >
> > >      >     DB
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >
> > >
> > >     Who says WE can?t?? I have an ATX case I?ll
> > donate. The entire
> > >     membership must have enough hardware to finish
> > it. If we need something
> > >     nobody has, we can take up a collection. That
> > would make a piddly amount
> > >     for any one of us, even me. Choosing a distro
> > might cause a small flame
> > >     war, but if we define our requirements
> > carefully, we should be able to
> > >     narrow it down to 2 or 3. If we get a big
> > enough HD, put 2 to 4 distros
> > >     on it. That might help make peace. And a good
> > demo, besides.
> > >
> > >     Jim
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > OK, so Noah's stash helps with parts.
> >
> > Because I was there, I stopped at the Blue Grass
> > Library today. They
> > have two computers. Used mostly for online research
> > and Word Processing.
> > They are part of the Scott County system. I will
> > call them Monday and
> > ask if there is a need for a computer and report
> > back the answer.
> >
> > Jim
> >
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