From roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com Sat Feb 2 00:04:52 2008 From: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com (Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:04:52 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Server should be back up and happy! Message-ID: <200802011804.52798.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Whee! May take a few days for dns to propagate, but hopefully all will be well very soon. rk From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sat Feb 2 01:28:16 2008 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:28:16 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Server should be back up and happy! In-Reply-To: <200802011804.52798.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> References: <200802011804.52798.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0802011728l76f13db4ybfe5cd9586229f8c@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Feb 1, 2008 6:04 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune < roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> wrote: > Whee! > > May take a few days for dns to propagate, but hopefully all will be well > very > soon. > > rk > > _______________________________________________ > Thank you Steve. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/4c791b2b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Sat Feb 2 03:57:36 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:57:36 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Feb Meeting Message-ID: <1c9537490802011957n48cf4434s75d0789e6777f24f@mail.gmail.com> Do we have anyone planning to give any sort of presentation for this month's meeting with an equal-or-greater coolness level to that of last month's excellent Myth(buntu) demo? Mark From jmkris@gmail.com Sat Feb 2 04:37:32 2008 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 22:37:32 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Feb Meeting In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802011957n48cf4434s75d0789e6777f24f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490802011957n48cf4434s75d0789e6777f24f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Last month's meeting is going to be a hard act to follow. Jim Kristan On Feb 1, 2008 9:57 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Do we have anyone planning to give any sort of presentation for this > month's meeting with an equal-or-greater coolness level to that of > last month's excellent Myth(buntu) demo? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From leif.theden@gmail.com Tue Feb 5 03:02:42 2008 From: leif.theden@gmail.com (Leif Theden) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 03:02:42 +0000 Subject: [QCLUG] Feb Meeting In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802011957n48cf4434s75d0789e6777f24f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490802011957n48cf4434s75d0789e6777f24f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9a65bf850802041902y36407f2etdd8f615c0a4a0955@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I was considering putting something together about command-line tools. Is there interest for a 15 minute or so presentation? On Feb 2, 2008 3:57 AM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Do we have anyone planning to give any sort of presentation for this > month's meeting with an equal-or-greater coolness level to that of > last month's excellent Myth(buntu) demo? > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/3b8f03a2/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From jmkris@gmail.com Tue Feb 5 06:05:28 2008 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:05:28 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Feb Meeting In-Reply-To: <9a65bf850802041902y36407f2etdd8f615c0a4a0955@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490802011957n48cf4434s75d0789e6777f24f@mail.gmail.com> <9a65bf850802041902y36407f2etdd8f615c0a4a0955@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd like to see that. Jim K On Feb 4, 2008 9:02 PM, Leif Theden wrote: > I was considering putting something together about command-line tools. Is > there interest for a 15 minute or so presentation? > > > On Feb 2, 2008 3:57 AM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > > > > Do we have anyone planning to give any sort of presentation for this > > month's meeting with an equal-or-greater coolness level to that of > > last month's excellent Myth(buntu) demo? > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 5 18:23:47 2008 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (Randolph Murdock III) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:23:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [QCLUG] Feb Meeting In-Reply-To: <9a65bf850802041902y36407f2etdd8f615c0a4a0955@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <542887.38620.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Leif Theden wrote: I was considering putting something together about command-line tools. Is there interest for a 15 minute or so presentation? Help with anything would be useful to just about everyone in the group. I am always forgetting options and switches for the various CLI commands. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/13395c3e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From robert@rm-jones.com Tue Feb 5 18:59:02 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:59:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is the meeting Message-ID: <47A8B1F6.7040600@rm-jones.com> Hi, I'm Bob Jones. I was at a meeting a couple of years ago but couldn't seem to get the hang of Linux and took it out after a few weeks. I have had it in and out many times since then. I went to a meeting about a year ago at Paneras but couldn't find anyone. You may have been there and I just didn't know who was who. Now since Vista (spit spit sorry but had to get the bad taste out of my mouth after saying that word) I am determined to change to Linux. I have Kubuntu installed and after weeks of work finally got my second hard drive working. That was really the only hard thing about it. I would like to come to the meeting this month. I assume it is still at Paneras at 6:30 on February 12th. How do I find the Linux group? Last time there were a number of people there with computers and after asking a few of them and getting that "Who are You" stare from them I gave up. Thank you for your help. Bob Jones Le Claire From jack@haleprint.com Thu Feb 7 15:56:52 2008 From: jack@haleprint.com (Jack) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:56:52 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI Message-ID: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> I know I have started a GUI session in KDE with Root privileges before but I can't remember how. Can anyone tell me the procedure to do this? Thanks Jack From dbergert@dbergert.com Thu Feb 7 16:51:54 2008 From: dbergert@dbergert.com (David D. Bergert) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:51:54 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI In-Reply-To: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> References: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> Message-ID: <000301c869a9$c4b69a30$4e23ce90$@com> What do you mean by GUI session ? Run an gui app as root from a shortcut or command line ? How about gksudo or kdesu ? -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:57 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI I know I have started a GUI session in KDE with Root privileges before but I can't remember how. Can anyone tell me the procedure to do this? Thanks Jack _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jack@haleprint.com Thu Feb 7 16:20:11 2008 From: jack@haleprint.com (Jack) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:20:11 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI In-Reply-To: <000301c869a9$c4b69a30$4e23ce90$@com> References: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> <000301c869a9$c4b69a30$4e23ce90$@com> Message-ID: <47AB2FBB.2050304@haleprint.com> David, I want to be able to drag and drop files into /var/www. But with my usr account I don't have root the privileges unless I su to root. I don't want to type commands for all the files I have to move and update so I want to drag and drop the file to make it easier. > What do you mean by GUI session ? > > Run an gui app as root from a shortcut or command line ? > > How about gksudo or kdesu ? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Jack > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:57 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI > > I know I have started a GUI session in KDE with Root privileges before > but I can't remember how. Can anyone tell me the procedure to do this? > > > Thanks > Jack > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From jack@haleprint.com Thu Feb 7 16:21:49 2008 From: jack@haleprint.com (Jack) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:21:49 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI In-Reply-To: <47AB2FBB.2050304@haleprint.com> References: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> <000301c869a9$c4b69a30$4e23ce90$@com> <47AB2FBB.2050304@haleprint.com> Message-ID: <47AB301D.10601@haleprint.com> I also must add that root has no usr account. The only way to root is through my usr account and to SU. Thanks Jack Jack wrote: > David, I want to be able to drag and drop files into /var/www. But with > my usr account I don't have root the privileges unless I su to root. I > don't want to type commands for all the files I have to move and update > so I want to drag and drop the file to make it easier. > >> What do you mean by GUI session ? >> >> Run an gui app as root from a shortcut or command line ? >> >> How about gksudo or kdesu ? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of >> Jack >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:57 AM >> To: qclug@qclug.org >> Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI >> >> I know I have started a GUI session in KDE with Root privileges before >> but I can't remember how. Can anyone tell me the procedure to do this? >> >> >> Thanks >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From dbergert@dbergert.com Thu Feb 7 17:13:40 2008 From: dbergert@dbergert.com (David D. Bergert) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:13:40 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI In-Reply-To: <47AB2FBB.2050304@haleprint.com> References: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> <000301c869a9$c4b69a30$4e23ce90$@com> <47AB2FBB.2050304@haleprint.com> Message-ID: <000701c869ac$c910ec40$5b32c4c0$@com> You could try: 'kdesu konqueror' Or see this post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kde-users-having-roo t-file-manager-while-still-logged-in-as-normal-user-175360/ -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Jack Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:20 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI David, I want to be able to drag and drop files into /var/www. But with my usr account I don't have root the privileges unless I su to root. I don't want to type commands for all the files I have to move and update so I want to drag and drop the file to make it easier. > What do you mean by GUI session ? > > Run an gui app as root from a shortcut or command line ? > > How about gksudo or kdesu ? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Jack > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:57 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI > > I know I have started a GUI session in KDE with Root privileges before > but I can't remember how. Can anyone tell me the procedure to do this? > > > Thanks > Jack > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 7 17:34:05 2008 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:34:05 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is the meeting In-Reply-To: <47A8B1F6.7040600@rm-jones.com> References: <47A8B1F6.7040600@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <47AB410D.9000402@sbcglobal.net> Robert Jones wrote: > Hi, I'm Bob Jones. I was at a meeting a couple of years ago but > couldn't seem to get the hang of Linux and took it out after a few > weeks. Hola! Welcome to the nerd herd. I have had it in and out many times since then. I went to a > meeting about a year ago at Paneras but couldn't find anyone. You may > have been there and I just didn't know who was who. We usually have the meeting at Panera's in Davenport, the second Tuesday of each month. Show up anytime after 18:30, and some of us will be there. Look for laptops, varying states of dress. Listen for discussion and arguing over key penguin phrases such as KDE, GNOME, Compiz, and networking. Now since Vista > (spit spit sorry but had to get the bad taste out of my mouth after > saying that word) much chuckling.... repito for favor: Vista es mierda esplendido. Vistas are wonderful things, when they aren't provided by M$. > I would like to come to the meeting this month. I assume it is still at > Paneras at 6:30 on February 12th. How do I find the Linux group? We typically have little signs with penguins on them to let you know where we are. We try to take up at least three of the round tables located to the left, using the built-in benches as plug-in points. From jack@haleprint.com Thu Feb 7 16:59:08 2008 From: jack@haleprint.com (Jack) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:59:08 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI In-Reply-To: <000701c869ac$c910ec40$5b32c4c0$@com> References: <47AB2A44.4090101@haleprint.com> <000301c869a9$c4b69a30$4e23ce90$@com> <47AB2FBB.2050304@haleprint.com> <000701c869ac$c910ec40$5b32c4c0$@com> Message-ID: <47AB38DC.9070000@haleprint.com> Thanks David, That worked Jack ============================================================================== David D. Bergert wrote: > You could try: > > 'kdesu konqueror' > > Or see this post: > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kde-users-having-roo > t-file-manager-while-still-logged-in-as-normal-user-175360/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Jack > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:20 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI > > > > David, I want to be able to drag and drop files into /var/www. But with > my usr account I don't have root the privileges unless I su to root. I > don't want to type commands for all the files I have to move and update > so I want to drag and drop the file to make it easier. > >> What do you mean by GUI session ? >> >> Run an gui app as root from a shortcut or command line ? >> >> How about gksudo or kdesu ? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf >> > Of > >> Jack >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:57 AM >> To: qclug@qclug.org >> Subject: [QCLUG] Root session with a GUI >> >> I know I have started a GUI session in KDE with Root privileges before >> but I can't remember how. Can anyone tell me the procedure to do this? >> >> >> Thanks >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From robert@rm-jones.com Tue Feb 12 20:32:43 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:32:43 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? Message-ID: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> I wanted to see if there will be a meeting tonight with all the snow before I drive in from Le Claire. Will anyone show up with it snowing like it is? Thanks Bob Jones From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Feb 12 20:42:32 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:42:32 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? In-Reply-To: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> References: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> I'm planning on being there (Panera). Sounds like the snow is going to taper off, and was expected to only amount to about an inch. On Feb 12, 2008 2:32 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > I wanted to see if there will be a meeting tonight with all the snow > before I drive in from Le Claire. > > Will anyone show up with it snowing like it is? > > Thanks > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From robert@rm-jones.com Tue Feb 12 20:46:09 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:46:09 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B20591.3020705@rm-jones.com> Thank You. I'll be there and am looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the guys. Bob Jones Mark Riedesel wrote: > I'm planning on being there (Panera). Sounds like the snow is going to > taper off, and was expected to only amount to about an inch. > > On Feb 12, 2008 2:32 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > >> I wanted to see if there will be a meeting tonight with all the snow >> before I drive in from Le Claire. >> >> Will anyone show up with it snowing like it is? >> >> Thanks >> Bob Jones >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From jmkris@gmail.com Tue Feb 12 21:03:09 2008 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:03:09 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? In-Reply-To: <47B20591.3020705@rm-jones.com> References: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> <47B20591.3020705@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: I'll be there. Mark have you seen POV ray trace, it's some kind of open source rendering software, way over my head. http://hof.povray.org/ Jim Kristan On Feb 12, 2008 2:46 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > Thank You. I'll be there and am looking forward to meeting you and the > rest of the guys. > Bob Jones > > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > > I'm planning on being there (Panera). Sounds like the snow is going to > > taper off, and was expected to only amount to about an inch. > > > > On Feb 12, 2008 2:32 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > > > >> I wanted to see if there will be a meeting tonight with all the snow > >> before I drive in from Le Claire. > >> > >> Will anyone show up with it snowing like it is? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Bob Jones > >> _______________________________________________ > >> QCLUG mailing list > >> QCLUG@qclug.org > >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Feb 12 21:04:59 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:04:59 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? In-Reply-To: References: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> <47B20591.3020705@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802121304k79d04422nd82d0af32f92e037@mail.gmail.com> Yep! I use a little povray script to generate the picture frame thumbnails for my site :-) Mark On Feb 12, 2008 3:03 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > I'll be there. Mark have you seen POV ray trace, it's some kind of > open source rendering software, way over my head. > > http://hof.povray.org/ > > Jim Kristan > > > On Feb 12, 2008 2:46 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > > Thank You. I'll be there and am looking forward to meeting you and the > > rest of the guys. > > Bob Jones > > > > > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > > > I'm planning on being there (Panera). Sounds like the snow is going to > > > taper off, and was expected to only amount to about an inch. > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2008 2:32 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > > > > > >> I wanted to see if there will be a meeting tonight with all the snow > > >> before I drive in from Le Claire. > > >> > > >> Will anyone show up with it snowing like it is? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Bob Jones > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> QCLUG mailing list > > >> QCLUG@qclug.org > > >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > QCLUG mailing list > > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 13 02:36:14 2008 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:36:14 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802121304k79d04422nd82d0af32f92e037@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> <47B20591.3020705@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121304k79d04422nd82d0af32f92e037@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B2579E.7020201@sbcglobal.net> Mark Riedesel wrote: > Yep! I use a little povray script to generate the picture frame > thumbnails for my site :-) > > Mark Sorry I missed you lot this time around, but it was mum's birthday and I decided to stay in and cook dinner for her. I plan on being there for March. This white stuff is starting to annoy even me... >> On Feb 12, 2008 2:46 PM, Robert Jones wrote: >>> Thank You. I'll be there and am looking forward to meeting you and the >>> rest of the guys. >>> Bob Jones Sorry I missed meeting you Bob, but feel free to post early and often to the list! From leif.theden@gmail.com Wed Feb 13 04:13:57 2008 From: leif.theden@gmail.com (Leif Theden) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:13:57 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Is There A Meeting Tonight? In-Reply-To: <47B2579E.7020201@sbcglobal.net> References: <47B2026B.50603@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121242hafea1dage3733bb4da626876@mail.gmail.com> <47B20591.3020705@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802121304k79d04422nd82d0af32f92e037@mail.gmail.com> <47B2579E.7020201@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9a65bf850802122013o74bcde3bsdb28188fc7091d99@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment Hey gang, here's a copy of the presentation from tonight's meeting. ....Its longer than 15 minutes.... :) On 2/12/08, agamotto wrote: > Mark Riedesel wrote: > > Yep! I use a little povray script to generate the picture frame > > thumbnails for my site :-) > > > > Mark > > Sorry I missed you lot this time around, but it was mum's birthday and I > decided to stay in and cook dinner for her. I plan on being there for > March. > > This white stuff is starting to annoy even me... > > > >> On Feb 12, 2008 2:46 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > >>> Thank You. I'll be there and am looking forward to meeting you and the > >>> rest of the guys. > >>> Bob Jones > > Sorry I missed meeting you Bob, but feel free to post early and often to > the list! > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have been watching the mailing list for some time but have not yet had the opportunity to make it to the meetings at Panera. I have a request to make of the group. On Wednesday, March 19th the Information Technology Department is organizing our annual Technology Showcase. We use this as a chance to show off upcoming technologies as well as educate our users to the resources that are available. Last year we had a substantial showing of support from vendors who have participated by setting up booths, presenting, and donating swag and products for giveaways. This year we are expanding the event to really show off what technology can do. Last years survey showed that the two biggest hits at the showcase included our Vista/Office 2007 demonstration area and an Apple representatives station. So what I am looking for is representation of the local linux enthusiasts. I am interested in getting a demo area setup where Showcase visitors can stop by to see the free alternative to MS/Apple. Most visitors probably have never heard of linux so I am sure many will be surprised to see how simple and fun linux can be to use. In addition to the demo systems (various distros, kde, gnome, compiz, etc), I would love to see some knowledgeable LUG members that would be willing to demonstrate the systems, tools, applications, package mangagment, and answer any questions that they may have. In addition to the daily computer applications I am also interested in showing off 1 or 2 interesting projects that show the flexibility of a free operating system. One possibility is the Myth setup that was demoed at your last meeting. Is there anyone in the group willing to work with me to introduce linux to our community. I am not really looking at this as a recruitment event per se. But I think it would be a great oportunity to demonstrate the freedom of open source software. I am also looking for guest speakers to attend the event or even to present remotely. I am looking to find someone that can discuss more of the philosophy and background of linux. To explain to a broad audience about the importance of Open Source software and distributed development. Is anyone interested in putting something together or have contacts in the community that would be willing to present on campus for the event? Questions or Comments? Thanks, - Derek ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/2ce23b37/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Thu Feb 14 00:06:41 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:06:41 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I had a great time last night In-Reply-To: <47B2CC33.4090808@rm-jones.com> References: <47B2CC33.4090808@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802131606p34c5fb1l29a34faed31810d7@mail.gmail.com> Glad you enjoyed the meeting Bob, we had a fairly small turnout but Leif's nice introductory presentation definitely made it worthwhile (I learned about watch!). Hopefully Leif can forgive me for my repeated interjections ;-) I was sitting next to Leif and Jim Kristan was on your left. Mark On Feb 13, 2008 4:53 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, I just wanted to let you know I had a great time > last night and I will be back. I learned a lot and enjoyed the company. > Leif, I found the "Cheat Sheet" you told me about. Thank You. I should > have Kubuntu up and running today and then will be on to my website and > start to create a Blog again. I LOVE computers :-) . > > Like I said last night, I have a hard time with names so I thought I would > try to get them set in my mind. I wrote Leif's name down but could you > remind me who was on my left and who was across from me. I'll try to do > better. I promise :-[ . > > By the way, my website is at www.RM-Jones.com . You might find it > interesting. Maybe not. If you know anyone in genealogy they probably > would. It is a work in progress, and hopefully always will be, so stop in > if you have time. > > My personal e-mail address is RMJ1940@gmail.com if you want to use it. > Don't matter to me. You will probably get e-mail from that address because > I usually forget to change it to the Robert@RM-Jones.com when I send e-mail. > > Have a Great Day > Bob Jones > From LMcKnight@bandag.com Thu Feb 14 17:04:05 2008 From: LMcKnight@bandag.com (McKnight, Lee) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:04:05 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Derek, Is this a daytime or evening affair? Times it will be open? Times set aside for setup? Regards, Mac........ ________________________________ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Derek Kozlowski Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:02 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase Hello Everyone, I am Derek, a member of the IT staff here at St. Ambrose University. I have been watching the mailing list for some time but have not yet had the opportunity to make it to the meetings at Panera. I have a request to make of the group.=20 =20 On Wednesday, March 19th the Information Technology Department is organizing our annual Technology Showcase. We use this as a chance to show off upcoming technologies as well as educate our users to the resources that are available. Last year we had a substantial showing of support from vendors who have participated by setting up booths, presenting, and donating swag and products for giveaways. This year we are expanding the event to really show off what technology can do. =20 Last years survey showed that the two biggest hits at the showcase included our Vista/Office 2007 demonstration area and an Apple representatives station. =20 =20 So what I am looking for is representation of the local linux enthusiasts. I am interested in getting a demo area setup where Showcase visitors can stop by to see the free alternative to MS/Apple. Most visitors probably have never heard of linux so I am sure many will be surprised to see how simple and fun linux can be to use. In addition to the demo systems (various distros, kde, gnome, compiz, etc), I would love to see some knowledgeable LUG members that would be willing to demonstrate the systems, tools, applications, package mangagment, and answer any questions that they may have. In addition to the daily computer applications I am also interested in showing off 1 or 2 interesting projects that show the flexibility of a free operating system. One possibility is the Myth setup that was demoed at your last meeting. =20 Is there anyone in the group willing to work with me to introduce linux to our community. I am not really looking at this as a recruitment event per se. But I think it would be a great oportunity to demonstrate the freedom of open source software. =20 I am also looking for guest speakers to attend the event or even to present remotely. I am looking to find someone that can discuss more of the philosophy and background of linux. To explain to a broad audience about the importance of Open Source software and distributed development. Is anyone interested in putting something together or have contacts in the community that would be willing to present on campus for the event? =20 Questions or Comments? =20 Thanks, - Derek ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/4a69e0c6/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From robert@rm-jones.com Fri Feb 15 03:53:20 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:53:20 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Thank You In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802131606p34c5fb1l29a34faed31810d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B2CC33.4090808@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802131606p34c5fb1l29a34faed31810d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B50CB0.7020802@rm-jones.com> Thank You Mark. I am just getting my computers back on line. When I tried to start them yesterday morning the data drive on my Linux box wasn't working. Soooooo, that means I have to buy a new drive. Right :-) ? At least that's what I told my wife. I got a 750 GB Seagate USB external. When I got home I checked the computer out and it was a loose cable. Anyway, I had a little problem getting it on line and ended up starting all over again so it is up and running now and the system is better than before. It went pretty good due to my notes and some of the info I got from the presentation. I actually remembered some of it and it turned out very useful. Thanks again to all you guys. Looking forward to the next meeting. Bob Jones Mark Riedesel wrote: > Glad you enjoyed the meeting Bob, we had a fairly small turnout but > Leif's nice introductory presentation definitely made it worthwhile (I > learned about watch!). Hopefully Leif can forgive me for my repeated > interjections ;-) > > I was sitting next to Leif and Jim Kristan was on your left. > > Mark From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 17 04:24:59 2008 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:24:59 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B7B71B.8060202@sbcglobal.net> > *Subject:* [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase One possibility is the Myth setup that was demoed at your last > meeting. Derek, I would be quite willing to come by and do a demonstration/s of my Myth setup, as I now have two working units in my house. I just finished creating a setup for Mum, and once I get the digital tuner working better, I can show the digital tv off in addition to the SDTV bits that I have been using for about three years now. From robert@rm-jones.com Sun Feb 17 13:05:49 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:05:49 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase In-Reply-To: <47B7B71B.8060202@sbcglobal.net> References: <47B7B71B.8060202@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <47B8312D.20609@rm-jones.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/8a0f3781/attachment.htm From robert@rm-jones.com Sun Feb 17 13:26:29 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:26:29 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I broke it Message-ID: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/4c4211bb/attachment.htm From mriedesel@gmail.com Sun Feb 17 15:07:14 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:07:14 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I broke it In-Reply-To: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 17, 2008 7:26 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > > I Broke My Kubuntu :-( . Yep, Windows XP (spit spit) is back in my > computer. But like Arnold says "I'll be back". Next time I'll do a dual > boot on my HP box. He (R2-D2) has a split personality anyhow so he won't > mind sharing with a penguin :-) . > > I don't know what I did. Everything was going great except for one > persistent problem that kept after me. It seems that Ubuntu doesn't like > external USB drives that are formatted in NTFS. The new one (750 GB) that I > bought gave me all kinds of problems. And, I think in the end Ubuntu ATE it > as when I tried to use it on Windows XP (spit spit) I couldn't get some of > the files to delete and I couldn't format it either. Sooooo Best Buy got it > back. From what research I did I found that Linux isn't able to change the > Owner or Preferences on FAT32 or NTFS drives. Right, you can't chmod/chown anything on NTFS because it uses a very different permissions system and FAT32 has none at all, but you can tell Linux to mount the drive as a user other than root which should give you full read/write access to the contents of the drive. I assume that's what you included in your /etc/fstab I would put the correct > settings in /etc/fstab and it would work great, until I restarted the > computer then it wouldn't work. The problem is that each time (well, maybe > not every time) that the computer starts it would assign a different ID to > the drive. Did you use the partition's UUID in the fstab entry? The UUID shouldn't change between reboots regardless of filesystem type. It would have looked something like this: UUID=FC2C5B962C5B4AB2 /media/mobile_storage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1 If you used the device node, then yes, it'll most likely become a moving target. > One time it would be called one thing and next time something > else so Ubuntu couldn't find it from the fstab settings. I guess the way > around that would be to format it to ext3 but I wanted to use the data on my > remaining Windows (spit spit) machine until I got fully converted to > Kubuntu. Oh well, the long and the short of it is I took Linux back out > (for now) and my wife is now convinced (as if she wasn't before) that I am > totally MAD. You should see my beautiful and usually charming wife shake > her head when she walks by my computer room and sees Windows (spit spit) > disk everywhere. It is actually funny. > > Another curious thing that happened, probably because I wasn't doing my > backups, using Simple Backup, correctly. My 160GB drive that Kubuntu was on > was 96% full and I had very few data files on it. du -hs / to show which directories contain all that space, or use a friendly graphical drive space tool like filelight. Even Vista (spit spit) > doesn't use that much space so I must have been doing something wrong. Who > would have guessed that I could do something wrong :-) . So far, installing XP was the only thing I've seen that you've done wrong so far, that and maybe returning that drive ;-) > > If anyone know how to get an external FAT32 or NTFS USB drive to work, > please let me know. I will probably start putting Kubuntu / Ubuntu back in > before to long. I may wait for the next version to get out in about April. > Don't know yet. In the mean time I'll be here. > Thanks for the help > Bob Jones > Now, back on the horse! :-) Mark From robert@rm-jones.com Sun Feb 17 16:21:27 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:21:27 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I broke it In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> Good Morning Mark, Yes, I used the device node. I found instructions on using the UUID but I couldn't figure out how to use it. It continued to come up with an error code. What would be the exact code to use in my fstab that would give me full user access to an external USB NTFS (or FAT32) drive. I understand how to find the UUID. If I use "defaults" than it seems it will go to "root" since that is the default for Ubuntu, or so I read. What I used before was the same code that I had used for my internal drives. I have the notes and such downstairs but I think it was something like "/dev/media/??? users ..." I never thought about looking to see what directories used up all the space. Windows (spit spit) doesn't do that as far as I know. I needed to start over so I can learn anyway. I have already partitioned R2-D2's drive in half and am ready to install Kubuntu as soon as I get "Tiger" setup. I figure this way I won't have to go through about 2 days setting R2-D2 up again when I kick the Penguin out in a week or two :-) . It seems like that is the normal life span for a Penguin in my house :-) . I'll probably have a baby Penguin living here in the next three or four days. I do have a question about that. I usually install Ubuntu and then add Kubuntu. The reason I do it this way is to get the ability to log in as "root". There are a number of things I just don't know how to do from a command line and the GUI makes things easier. I don't think you can set up a "root" log-in from Kubuntu. Do you know of any way to do that? Enough with the questions. I have to "Now, back on the horse!" Have a Great Day Bob Jones From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Feb 18 02:54:28 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:54:28 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I broke it In-Reply-To: <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 17, 2008 10:21 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > Good Morning Mark, Yes, I used the device node. I found instructions > on using the UUID but I couldn't figure out how to use it. It continued > to come up with an error code. What would be the exact code to use in > my fstab that would give me full user access to an external USB NTFS (or > FAT32) drive. I understand how to find the UUID. If I use "defaults" > than it seems it will go to "root" since that is the default for Ubuntu, > or so I read. What I used before was the same code that I had used for > my internal drives. I have the notes and such downstairs but I think it > was something like "/dev/media/??? users ..." > Determine your regular user's userid (UID), you can do this using this command: echo $UID It should print out a number, more than likely it's 1000. Every user on the system gets an ID, root is 0. Then something like this should work for your fstab: UUID=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRS /media/my_lil_removable_disk ntfs-3g uid=YourUID,rw,noauto 0 0 > I never thought about looking to see what directories used up all the > space. Windows (spit spit) doesn't do that as far as I know. I needed > to start over so I can learn anyway. I have already partitioned R2-D2's > drive in half and am ready to install Kubuntu as soon as I get "Tiger" > setup. I figure this way I won't have to go through about 2 days > setting R2-D2 up again when I kick the Penguin out in a week or two :-) > . It seems like that is the normal life span for a Penguin in my house > :-) . I'll probably have a baby Penguin living here in the next three > or four days. I do have a question about that. I usually install > Ubuntu and then add Kubuntu. The reason I do it this way is to get the > ability to log in as "root". There are a number of things I just don't > know how to do from a command line and the GUI makes things easier. I > don't think you can set up a "root" log-in from Kubuntu. Do you know of > any way to do that? > I've gotten used to using sudo so I don't bother setting a password for the root user, or just `sudo su` to switch to root. But if you want the root account to have a password, you can set one for root using: sudo passwd root Does Ubuntu have some weird graphical app for setting the root password? > Enough with the questions. I have to "Now, back on the horse!" Giddyup! > Have a Great Day > Bob Jones From vorlon@dodds.net Mon Feb 18 08:06:42 2008 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:06:42 -0800 Subject: [QCLUG] I broke it In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080218080642.GC28284@dario.dodds.net> On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:54:28PM -0600, Mark Riedesel wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 10:21 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > > Good Morning Mark, Yes, I used the device node. I found instructions > > on using the UUID but I couldn't figure out how to use it. It continued > > to come up with an error code. What would be the exact code to use in > > my fstab that would give me full user access to an external USB NTFS (or > > FAT32) drive. I understand how to find the UUID. If I use "defaults" > > than it seems it will go to "root" since that is the default for Ubuntu, > > or so I read. What I used before was the same code that I had used for > > my internal drives. I have the notes and such downstairs but I think it > > was something like "/dev/media/??? users ..." > > Determine your regular user's userid (UID), you can do this using this command: > echo $UID (more portably: id -u) > I've gotten used to using sudo so I don't bother setting a password > for the root user, or just `sudo su` to switch to root. Eeew? :) Try 'sudo -s' instead, much more elegant. :) > Does Ubuntu have some weird graphical app for setting the root password? Can be done from the users-admin UI (System->Administration->Users and Groups). -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org From robert@rm-jones.com Mon Feb 18 11:47:25 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 05:47:25 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm Getting Back On The Horse In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/45e48275/attachment.htm From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Feb 18 17:16:12 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:16:12 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm Getting Back On The Horse In-Reply-To: <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> Ohhhhhh.. You're logging into Gnome (or KDE) as root..There's a reason that's disabled by default. Is there a reason you're doing that? There's usually a better way to accomplish whatever it is you're doing without logging into an entire X session as root. Mark On Feb 18, 2008 5:47 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > > Good Morning and Thank You > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > I've gotten used to using sudo so I don't bother setting a password > for the root user, or just `sudo su` to switch to root. But if you > want the root account to have a password, you can set one for root > using:sudo passwd root > > Do you mean that I can use the command "sudo su" and I will be logged in at > the "root" user? If so, that is all I really want to be able to do. I > thought I would have to actually go through the log in screen to get there. > I would have to log out and then log in as root. > Does Ubuntu have some weird graphical app for setting the root password? > In Ubuntu I would go to System > Preferences > Control Center > Login > Window > Security and set "Allow Local System Administrator Login". Then > make sure the "Permissions" were set to "Allow Login if group write ..." was > set. After that I went to a terminal and used "sudo passwd root". Then I > could log in a "root" from the log in window. If I can just use "sudo su" > and accomplish the same thing I wouldn't have to load Ubuntu. > > Thanks again. > Bob Jones > From robert@rm-jones.com Mon Feb 18 22:38:06 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:38:06 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm Getting Back On The Horse In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> I don't know how to use the command line well enough to do many of the things I need to do so I want to use the normal mode. Think that is called a GUI? Anyway, sometimes I just can't figure out how to do it any other way so I log in as Root and do what I need and then get back out. I suspect that "sudo -s" or "sudo su" will only allow me to stay as root as long as I stay in the terminal. Is there any way to use the GUI as Root without logging in as Root? I'll read your reply from Kubuntu :-) . I have moved everything off my data drives and formatted them as ext3 and just wanted to check my e-mail one last time before I install Kubuntu. I'm putting it in it's own box instead of making poor old R2-D2 share with him. The computer he is taking over is named Tiger. This is probably the first time in history that a Penguin Killed A Tiger :-) . Thanks for the information. Bob Jones Mark Riedesel wrote: > Ohhhhhh.. You're logging into Gnome (or KDE) as root..There's a reason > that's disabled by default. Is there a reason you're doing that? > There's usually a better way to accomplish whatever it is you're doing > without logging into an entire X session as root. > > Mark From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Feb 18 22:45:27 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:45:27 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm Getting Back On The Horse In-Reply-To: <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> That's understandable. If you need to launch a file manager like Konqueror or Dolphin with root permissions, you can use kdesudo to start them (it pops up a little dialog which asks for your password). for example: kdesudo dolphin You could make a desktop shortcut for it or something if you'd like, that might make life a little easier. Otherwise, if you look on the K-Menu under System there should be a "File Manager - Super User Mode", that's essentially the same thing. Congrats on the re-install :) Mark On Feb 18, 2008 4:38 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > I don't know how to use the command line well enough to do many of the > things I need to do so I want to use the normal mode. Think that is > called a GUI? Anyway, sometimes I just can't figure out how to do it > any other way so I log in as Root and do what I need and then get back > out. I suspect that "sudo -s" or "sudo su" will only allow me to stay > as root as long as I stay in the terminal. Is there any way to use the > GUI as Root without logging in as Root? > > I'll read your reply from Kubuntu :-) . I have moved everything off my > data drives and formatted them as ext3 and just wanted to check my > e-mail one last time before I install Kubuntu. I'm putting it in it's > own box instead of making poor old R2-D2 share with him. The computer > he is taking over is named Tiger. This is probably the first time in > history that a Penguin Killed A Tiger :-) . > > Thanks for the information. > Bob Jones > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > > Ohhhhhh.. You're logging into Gnome (or KDE) as root..There's a reason > > that's disabled by default. Is there a reason you're doing that? > > There's usually a better way to accomplish whatever it is you're doing > > without logging into an entire X session as root. > > > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From robert@rm-jones.com Tue Feb 19 22:08:24 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:08:24 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm Getting Back On The Horse In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BB5358.2050003@rm-jones.com> The Tiger is dead and the Penguin is back on line :-) . Hi Mark, first let me thank you for the information on "kdesudo". I'll give that a try very shortly. I have my three data drives (2 internal and 1 USB) formatted to ext3 and managed to get them setup and running fine. However, the "umask=000" gives an error so I can't use that. I have done a lot of reading and came up with the following. /dev/disk/by-uuid/abade572-4015-4173-832b-444c976a03fe /media/DataDisk ext3 auto,users,rw 0 0 /dev/disk/by-uuid/677d712f-864d-4b68-8197-602e3b898018 /media/BackupDisk ext3 auto,users,rw 0 0 /dev/disk/by-uuid/05e69fc8-b92e-44ee-9c66-63df5353d991 /media/SeagateDisk ext3 auto,users,rw 0 0 The problem is it is still running as root so I can't write to it. I thought the "users,rw" would take care of that but it didn't. I have restarted the computer and it didn't give any errors on loading Kubuntu. Do you, or anyone else, have any suggestions on what I need to do to make it so I can write to it. I know that it is writable because I actually learned enough to go into a terminal, change to the directory, and tried to write with no luck. However when I tried using the same command but as sudo it wrote just fine. Sorry about being a bother but I have tried a number of things that I read and I just don't seem to get it. I guess I'm just a little to new at this yet, but I'll get better. I promise. Thanks for the help Bob Jones From robert@rm-jones.com Tue Feb 19 22:19:29 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:19:29 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Thank You In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BB55F1.2050407@rm-jones.com> Thank You Thank You Thank You. This is exactly what I wanted to do and always logged into root to do it. No more root login in for me :-) . I haven't figured out how to make a shortcut to it yet. I tried right clicking on it but that didn't allow it. I'll figure it out though. The important thing is I can get to it. Thanks again Bob Jones Mark Riedesel wrote: > That's understandable. If you need to launch a file manager like > Konqueror or Dolphin with root permissions, you can use kdesudo to > start them (it pops up a little dialog which asks for your password). > > for example: > kdesudo dolphin > > You could make a desktop shortcut for it or something if you'd like, > that might make life a little easier. From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Feb 19 22:50:49 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:50:49 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm Getting Back On The Horse In-Reply-To: <47BB5358.2050003@rm-jones.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> <47BB5358.2050003@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802191450i5550cfb6u8393bfda7129916c@mail.gmail.com> Ah excellent! Yah, no need to use umask option for mounting ext3 since ext3 understands how to deal with traditional Unix file permissions. Your fstab entries look sufficient, and if you can write to them as root then everything is fine, you just need to change ownership of the drives to your regular user, like this: sudo chown -R bob /media/DataDisk Where "bob" is the user you're changing ownership to, and "/media/DataDisk" is what you're changing the permissions of. chown is "change owner", the -R means recursive (it follows the filesystem tree down through all the sub-branches). Then your user should be able to write to the disks. Also, it's optional but it might be a little more reliable to change "/dev/disk/by-uuid/05e69fc8-b92e-44ee-9c66-63df5353d991" to "UUID=05e69fc8-b92e-44ee-9c66-63df5353d991", but that may just being nit picky. If you're interested in learning more about what the options (like "users","auto","rw") in fstab do, check out the manpage for mount (eg. man mount), option listings start somewhere around line 215. You're not being a bother at all, asking questions is one of the reasons the mailing list exists, glad to hear you're giving it another shot :) Mark On Feb 19, 2008 4:08 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > The Tiger is dead and the Penguin is back on line :-) . > > Hi Mark, first let me thank you for the information on "kdesudo". I'll > give that a try very shortly. I have my three data drives (2 internal > and 1 USB) formatted to ext3 and managed to get them setup and running > fine. However, the "umask=000" gives an error so I can't use that. I > have done a lot of reading and came up with the following. > > /dev/disk/by-uuid/abade572-4015-4173-832b-444c976a03fe /media/DataDisk > ext3 auto,users,rw 0 0 > /dev/disk/by-uuid/677d712f-864d-4b68-8197-602e3b898018 /media/BackupDisk > ext3 auto,users,rw 0 0 > /dev/disk/by-uuid/05e69fc8-b92e-44ee-9c66-63df5353d991 > /media/SeagateDisk ext3 auto,users,rw 0 0 > > The problem is it is still running as root so I can't write to it. I > thought the "users,rw" would take care of that but it didn't. I have > restarted the computer and it didn't give any errors on loading > Kubuntu. Do you, or anyone else, have any suggestions on what I need to > do to make it so I can write to it. I know that it is writable because > I actually learned enough to go into a terminal, change to the > directory, and tried to write with no luck. However when I tried using > the same command but as sudo it wrote just fine. > > Sorry about being a bother but I have tried a number of things that I > read and I just don't seem to get it. I guess I'm just a little to new > at this yet, but I'll get better. I promise. > > Thanks for the help > Bob Jones > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From robert@rm-jones.com Tue Feb 19 23:27:35 2008 From: robert@rm-jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:27:35 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] It worked In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802191450i5550cfb6u8393bfda7129916c@mail.gmail.com> References: <47B83605.9040805@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802170707i6916a169k546c3584bd8977a7@mail.gmail.com> <47B85F07.20900@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802171854s4ae0e2a2u84f2788f576d8846@mail.gmail.com> <47B9704D.9040200@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802180916h50e7e72x1ea859d3cd094ccd@mail.gmail.com> <47BA08CE.7070100@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802181445n3b038421m5c007f6246fa6a88@mail.gmail.com> <47BB5358.2050003@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802191450i5550cfb6u8393bfda7129916c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BB65E7.7070700@rm-jones.com> Thank You Again, It worked :-) . I had tried the chown but I didn't know about the -R. I owe you drink next month :-) . Bob Jones From derek.kozlowski@gmail.com Wed Feb 20 19:59:00 2008 From: derek.kozlowski@gmail.com (Derek Kozlowski) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:59:00 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase - Part 2 Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment More info about the 2008 St. Ambrose Information Technology Showcase. Just as a general fyi, this is our second technology fair at ambrose. Last year we had a great turnout, lots of vendors/activities, and lots of giveaways (vendor swag, small electronics, tshirts, and even an iPod and new Computer). Our intended audience for the event is campus users (staff, faculty, students), and will not be publicly advertised outside of campus. We use the event as a way to raise technology awareness, show off new products, and in general get people excited about Technology. This year we are expanding the events, bringing in more outside professionals, and working within the university to identify users that use technology in unique ways. We are going to have some interesting booths this year and I really hope that the local linux group can be a part of the activities. ** Just as a side note our apple rep is very excited to be coming back to campus this year and I am fairly certain he will be bringing demos of the current apple toys ( iphone and Mac Air ) for those of you that would like to see them in person. *Derek, Is this a daytime or evening affair? Times it will be open? Times set aside for setup? Regards, Mac........* Mac, We have the Rogalski Center reserved from 8am until 10pm on March 19th. Most of the booths, reps, and speakers will be scheduled between 8am-6pm though we have events scheduled throughout the day and evening. The late evening (6pm-10pm) events are primarily going to be fun things like video game tournaments with prizes. We have a little bit of flexibility with setup times for the event. Most booths are going to be setting up between 7am-9am though we do have some time the night before to get the setup started. The doors will be locked up after we are done getting equipment in place, tables arranged, ethernet and power cords to where they will be needed for the morning. *Derek, I would be quite willing to come by and do a demonstration/s of my Myth setup, as I now have two working units in my house. I just finished creating a setup for Mum, and once I get the digital tuner working better, I can show the digital tv off in addition to the SDTV bits that I have been using for about three years now.* Robert, a myth demo would be great ( I also have a mythbox setup at home, well worth the investment of time ). Would you be comfortable putting together a scheduled presentation and answering user questions? It will be great to see some involvement from the Local LUG. So far none of the IT people or CS students I have talked to even knew that there was a local group. Perhaps you guys can bring some recruitment flyers and pick up some new members to your monthly get togethers. Since the last email I have been in contact with the St. Ambrose computer club, they are planning on putting a few machines together loaded with vmware and a plethora of different distros. Does anyone else have any interesting projects that might make a good addition or perhaps work with a local company that uses technology in a creative way. I would still like to find 1 more individual that would be willing to put together a short presentation answering the basics of linux (What, why, when, how, etc), and perhaps talk about the founding principles of Open source software and alternatives. If anyone else is interested or would like further details please get back to me through the list or email kozlowskiderek@sau.edu Thanks, - Derek* * ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b5c8b96b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From nickmiller92@gmail.com Wed Feb 20 23:15:57 2008 From: nickmiller92@gmail.com (Nick Miller) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:57 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase - Part 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47BCB4AD.3060004@gmail.com> Derek Kozlowski wrote: > More info about the 2008 St. Ambrose Information Technology Showcase. > Just as a general fyi, this is our second technology fair at ambrose. > Last year we had a great turnout, lots of vendors/activities, and lots > of giveaways (vendor swag, small electronics, tshirts, and even an > iPod and new Computer). Our intended audience for the event is campus > users (staff, faculty, students), and will not be publicly advertised > outside of campus. If it's not going to be advertised to the public, does that mean the public can't come? I'm very interested in seeing what's there but I don't plan on setting up a booth or anything of that nature. If it's just for St. Ambrose students, staff, and presenters, I understand. - Nick From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 20 23:50:28 2008 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (Randolph Murdock III) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:50:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [QCLUG] St. Ambrose Technology Showcase - Part 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <478351.7760.qm@web81702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Derek Kozlowski wrote: Robert (correction - this was from moi, agamotto, not Robert) a myth demo would be great ( I also have a mythbox setup at home, well worth the investment of time ). Would you be comfortable putting together a scheduled presentation and answering user questions? I (agamotto) would be happy to set up a presentation or two, along with the usual Q&A session. From the sounds of this, I can easily entertain myself much of the day in between with exploring the exhibits! The only bits I would require for the display would be a wireless connection somewhere in range, and a telly - either SDTV or HDTV, with one of the following - composite, VGA, or DVI inputs. I can put together some pamphlets, burn some cds for those who want to try, along with cheatsheets with recommended hardware. It will be great to see some involvement from the Local LUG. So far none of the IT people or CS students I have talked to even knew that there was a local group. We are rather informal with our group, as we can't get many people to the meetings every month due to life concerns. Since the last email I have been in contact with the St. Ambrose computer club, they are planning on putting a few machines together loaded with vmware and a plethora of different distros. Hmmm, more penguinistas with stuff on display... Jim, you can finally torture some without having to crash your own hardware! chuckle ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b7d28412/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@rm-jones.com Fri Feb 22 21:59:12 2008 From: Robert@rm-jones.com (Robert@rm-jones.com) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:59:12 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I'm a Happy Penguin Message-ID: <200802221559.12509.Robert@rm-jones.com> Hi Everyone, First I would like to thank the people that sent me e-mail to help me set up my hard drives. Your instructions worked great so now I am a Very Happy Penguin :-) . I have Kubuntu set up and it seems to be working Great. I would like to backup my entire system (or at least as much of it as I can) so that I don't have to go through setting up everyting again. It took me days. I wanted to use ARC but when I tried to do so it wouldn't let me write to the hard drive. I was trying to write to my "backup" drive which I am the "owner" of. It wouldn't let me. The error message indicated that I don't have permission to write to that drive. So, I tried it via a terminal and used "sudo arc" and had the same problem. So I logged in as "root" (yes, I know I should never do that but I had to find out if that was the problem) and I got the same message. I have also tried PVBackPack, File-Roller and KArchiver. Same with all of them. I did get "Keep" to work but I don't really care for it. Does anyone have any idea why I'm having a problem? I would think all of them should be able to write to a disk other than the system disk. I'm reading the book and may have to try a command line if I get desperate :-) Second question is what directories should I backup so if something goes Very Wrong I could just load the base system and then copy over the backup files and have everything back to where it was when I made the files? I will handle my data, which is on a different drive, as a separate issue and that shouldn't be hard. Thank's for the help. Bob Jones P.S. I'm now using Kubuntu for Everything except my Serif software and once I learn Gimp and some of the others that may be a thing of the past also. From Robert@rm-jones.com Fri Feb 22 22:05:01 2008 From: Robert@rm-jones.com (Robert@rm-jones.com) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:05:01 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I stand corrected Message-ID: <200802221605.01168.Robert@rm-jones.com> I went back in and checked again and that drive has me as use but group as root. I'm going to try to figure out how to change the group to me and try again. Bob Jones From mriedesel@gmail.com Fri Feb 22 22:35:53 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:35:53 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I stand corrected In-Reply-To: <200802221605.01168.Robert@rm-jones.com> References: <200802221605.01168.Robert@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802221435i71003388x1b9b61b75cb645ac@mail.gmail.com> Hey Bob, If you can copy/paste the result of `ls -ld /media/backup` then the problem will be a little easier to diagnose :) (substitute /media/backup for wherever your backup drive is mounted, of course) Mark On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:05 PM, wrote: > I went back in and checked again and that drive has me as use but group as > root. I'm going to try to figure out how to change the group to me and try > again. > > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From Robert@rm-jones.com Fri Feb 22 23:30:26 2008 From: Robert@rm-jones.com (Robert@rm-jones.com) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:30:26 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] It still won't write to the disk Message-ID: <200802221730.26462.Robert@rm-jones.com> This is a puzzlement as the King said in "The King and I". My backup drive is /media/sdc1 (which is called BackupDrive) and it is an ext3 drive. I now have both the user and group set to robert. I go into ARK and find the BackupDrive. I then create a directory called ArcBackup and then a subdirectory to that called FullBackup. I then in the "Location" field at the bottom of the window I put FullBackup and click "Save". I get a message that says "You do not have permission to write to the directory /sdc1/ArcBackup/FullBackup". I just don't understand since I am the user and the group how this can be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Bob Jones From mriedesel@gmail.com Fri Feb 22 23:43:07 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:43:07 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] It still won't write to the disk In-Reply-To: <200802221730.26462.Robert@rm-jones.com> References: <200802221730.26462.Robert@rm-jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802221543p6abb841epc5a41715b174c45a@mail.gmail.com> Hey Bob, see my response to your "I stand corrected" message thread. Also if you could try to keep the message subjects the same (if they're the same subject) then that helps keep the mailing list threads a little more organized :o) Mark On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:30 PM, wrote: > This is a puzzlement as the King said in "The King and I". My backup drive > is /media/sdc1 (which is called BackupDrive) and it is an ext3 drive. I now > have both the user and group set to robert. I go into ARK and find the > BackupDrive. I then create a directory called ArcBackup and then a > subdirectory to that called FullBackup. I then in the "Location" field at > the bottom of the window I put FullBackup and click "Save". I get a message > that says "You do not have permission to write to the > directory /sdc1/ArcBackup/FullBackup". I just don't understand since I am > the user and the group how this can be. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Thank You > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From mriedesel@gmail.com Sat Feb 23 03:17:16 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:17:16 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I stand corrected In-Reply-To: <1c9537490802221435i71003388x1b9b61b75cb645ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <200802221605.01168.Robert@rm-jones.com> <1c9537490802221435i71003388x1b9b61b75cb645ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490802221917q52323165xd897b365a3b2c64@mail.gmail.com> Even if you're the owner, the owner still has to have write permissions on it. ls -ld /media/sdc1 will show the permissions along with owner and group. Mark On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Hey Bob, > If you can copy/paste the result of `ls -ld /media/backup` then the > problem will be a little easier to diagnose :) > (substitute /media/backup for wherever your backup drive is mounted, of course) > > Mark > > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:05 PM, wrote: > > I went back in and checked again and that drive has me as use but group as > > root. I'm going to try to figure out how to change the group to me and try > > again. > > > > Bob Jones > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > From leif.theden@gmail.com Wed Feb 27 06:24:56 2008 From: leif.theden@gmail.com (Leif Theden) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:24:56 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] just a heads up about ext3... Message-ID: <9a65bf850802262224v42afa1f6j43415c9be1708397@mail.gmail.com> hey gang, so those of you present at last weeks meeting might have caught wind of problems i have with my laptop. its a rebranded msi s270 which has a few minor documented (and undocumented) issues with linux, one of which is the hard disk controller. i was having complete lockups where the computer would simply freeze for 30-45 seconds at a time...all while the hd grinds away. i thought it was just a hardware issue, but it dawned on me tonight............ext3 (or ext2 for that matter) can become very sluggish when you hit about 98% of the capacity of the drive, of which i was at 98%. so, i cleaned up a ton of stuff, and down to about 80% and all my lockups are gone! and, it runs smoothly again. i guess the moral of the story is...there could be really obscure solutions for really annoying things, and don't be a packrat (or if you are one, then buy more space!) leif From jmkris@gmail.com Wed Feb 27 18:41:54 2008 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:41:54 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] just a heads up about ext3... In-Reply-To: <9a65bf850802262224v42afa1f6j43415c9be1708397@mail.gmail.com> References: <9a65bf850802262224v42afa1f6j43415c9be1708397@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for clearing that up, I have had very good results with MSI boards and I really liked the compact size of your laptop, nice to know it's still an option. Jim K On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Leif Theden wrote: > hey gang, > > so those of you present at last weeks meeting might have caught wind > of problems i have with my laptop. its a rebranded msi s270 which has > a few minor documented (and undocumented) issues with linux, one of > which is the hard disk controller. > > i was having complete lockups where the computer would simply freeze > for 30-45 seconds at a time...all while the hd grinds away. i thought > it was just a hardware issue, but it dawned on me > tonight............ext3 (or ext2 for that matter) can become very > sluggish when you hit about 98% of the capacity of the drive, of which > i was at 98%. > > so, i cleaned up a ton of stuff, and down to about 80% and all my > lockups are gone! and, it runs smoothly again. > > i guess the moral of the story is...there could be really obscure > solutions for really annoying things, and don't be a packrat (or if > you are one, then buy more space!) > > leif > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >