[QCLUG] Revealed.net domain sold *again* ?
Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune
roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com
Sat, 24 May 2008 18:39:05 -0500
Well, checking the nslookup and whois information, I see the revealed.net
email still goes to the same revealed.net server that I configured so long
ago, and is running in thier facility. So I'm not sure about the google
apps part of this. Are you sure that isn't what they are using just to
provide a webmail interface instead? (I only use mine via a mail client, so
I haven't kept up if they changed the webmail interface.)
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# nslookup -type=mx revealed.net
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
Non-authoritative answer:
revealed.net mail exchanger = 10 mail.revealed.net.
Authoritative answers can be found from:
revealed.net nameserver = asw.revealed.net.
revealed.net nameserver = ns.revealed.net.
mail.revealed.net internet address = 12.179.7.245
ns.revealed.net internet address = 12.163.40.50
asw.revealed.net internet address = 12.163.40.51
# nslookup 12.179.7.245
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address: 127.0.0.1#53
Non-authoritative answer:
245.7.179.12.in-addr.arpa name = foghorn.revealed.net.
Authoritative answers can be found from:
7.179.12.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns.nbson.com.
7.179.12.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.nbson.com.
ns.nbson.com internet address = 12.163.40.2
ns2.nbson.com internet address = 12.163.40.3
# whois 12.179.7.245
AT&T WorldNet Services ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
12.0.0.0 - 12.255.255.255
KEWANEE COM KEWANEE-10-7 (NET-12-179-7-0-1)
12.179.7.0 - 12.179.7.255
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-05-23 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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The email is still flowing through thier network etc. And technically, a
forwarder would use twice as much bandwidth as a stock delivery (40k in, then
40k out... for a 40k message :} )
Guess I'm confused a bit confused on the part about excuses :} I'm not sure
of your experience thus far with NBS, so I can't comment on that :}
rk
On Saturday 24 May 2008 18:07, Mark Riedesel wrote:
> I would be a little more understanding if they weren't using google
> apps for their email service. If they were running their own mail
> servers, sure, I can understand charging $5/mo for an email account
> for bandwidth and storage, but $5/mo a barely used forward that's
> handled off-site?
>
> It's not so much the measly $5/mo that irks me, it just annoys me when
> people would rather spend more time to make excuses than it would be
> to solve the problem.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune
>
> <roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, due to some issues I can't really speak about, the remaining
> > Revealed hosting was moved over to NBS. I worked with NBS and helped
> > move all the Revealed servers to thier facility.
> >
> > Honestly, $60/yr ($5/mo) is not unreasonable for an email account. I
> > realize that there are free google, yahoo, etc, email accounts out there,
> > and if free is the real issue there, then okay. I know NBS is really
> > excited about getting the revealed.net business and customers, and are
> > working hard to help everyone with all the upheavals that have been
> > experienced recently.
> >
> > They are not a huge company like google, so can't afford to offer free
> > emails. All email accounts, spam protection (which as far as I know is in
> > the works again after the postini fiasco... <- not NBS's fault ... just
> > FYI), etc.. costs bandwidth, which costs money.. I can only commend them
> > for keeping the cost as low as they have.
> >
> > I must say they have a great group of people, and a great
> > network/facility. Very responsive and fast network, like I always tried
> > to maintain at Revealed. Their networking model closely resembles how I
> > would have done it... (for what that's worth:} )
> >
> > They are still ramping up thier technical support, billing, and other
> > teams to handle the increased customer load they have, so all I'd ask is
> > you give these guys a chance.
> >
> > rk
> >
> > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 01:26, Mark Riedesel wrote:
> >> This obviously isn't directly Linux related, but I know a few of us on
> >> the list had been faithful revealed.net customers in the past years.
> >> We're all aware of SoloConnect's acquisition and resultant sub-par
> >> customer service, they were at least courteous enough to provide free
> >> email forwards for our old revealed.net e-mail addresses.
> >>
> >> Well, it seems as though SoloConnect has sold the revealed.net domain
> >> name to Network Business Systems ( nbson.com ) located in Geneseo, IL
> >> who are now offering @revealed.net addresses for $60/year which seems
> >> rather exorbitant considering all the excellent free email providers
> >> available nowadays. The real kicker is that they've also chosen to
> >> charge the same fee for e-mail forwarding which is unfortunate for
> >> those of us who have had revealed.net addresses since the early
> >> 1990's.
> >>
> >> So my question for the old revealed.net address holders, what are you
> >> guys planning to do? The other question being for anyone else that's
> >> had a situation where an ISP sells off a domain name to a
> >> exponentially less courteous company? Obviously if you own a domain,
> >> you get to choose what you do with it, it's just unfortunate in
> >> situations such as this one.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> *grumble grumble*
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