From jmkris@gmail.com Fri Sep 12 05:52:29 2008 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:52:29 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] $98 Laptop Review Message-ID: I thought this $98 laptop review was interesting. I know it's not a real laptop,. but I hope these very cheap laptops will give Linux a big boost. http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/2008/09/98-linux-laptop-from-china-hivision.html Jim K From jack@haleprint.com Tue Sep 23 17:12:43 2008 From: jack@haleprint.com (Jack) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:12:43 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] GnuPG IPOD Touch Message-ID: <48D9157B.6020606@haleprint.com> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has heard of GnuPG for the IPOD touch? I have done a search for it but I keep coming up empty. I want to add some security for my files. Thanks Jack From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Sep 23 18:30:04 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:30:04 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] GnuPG IPOD Touch In-Reply-To: <48D9157B.6020606@haleprint.com> References: <48D9157B.6020606@haleprint.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490809231030w756b045el87f03816d2f3f97@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment There's apps like PodSmith that encrypt your contact lists ("sync data") on the iPod. It all depends what you're attempting to encrypt. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Jack wrote: > Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has heard of GnuPG for the IPOD touch? > I have done a search for it but I keep coming up empty. I want to add > some security for my files. > > Thanks > Jack > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/d2c39753/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Mon Sep 29 03:23:07 2008 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:23:07 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. Programmer = for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that specializes in = products using embedded linux. I'm interested in becoming involved with = the LUG. David ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/25622c81/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Sep 29 04:01:50 2008 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:01:50 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490809282001w901a05am8d063b9523abcd54@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Yep we're still alive and moderately active. We typically meet every second Tuesday of the month at Panera Bread in Davenport, typically only 4 or 5 of us show up but it's still fun :) You're more than welcome to attend Mark On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. Programmer for > CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that specializes in > products using embedded linux. I'm interested in becoming involved with the > LUG. > > David > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/3a7a1636/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Mon Sep 29 04:41:57 2008 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:41:57 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Welcome, the list have been quite of late. I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in learning more about it. Regards. On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in > becoming involved with the LUG. > > David > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/cca5158f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Mon Sep 29 06:45:32 2008 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:45:32 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, such = as firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We do = use ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the = past). =20 However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, greylisting), = are implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also = use spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter = we developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to = SPF, greylisting and some additional header analysis. =20 There's no download link, but of course our customers can request any = GPL software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases = third parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in = possession of the binaries and request a specific software package used = in the product by name. (See GPLv3 6-b). We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software is = linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on the = development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for us, = not an end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with the = spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL = package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email at = no charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But = you'd have to tell me what package you want the source for. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG =20 Welcome, the list have been quite of late. I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some =20 GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you =20 have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in =20 learning more about it. Regards. On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. =20 > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that =20 > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in =20 > becoming involved with the LUG. > > David > ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 4985 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/81af0e5b/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment-- From acjohnson@pcdomain.com Mon Sep 29 13:59:53 2008 From: acjohnson@pcdomain.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:59:53 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: <809F949894774D5AB54EC586C92DB1FD@pcdomain.local> I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time antivirus client based on the open source ClamAV engine. Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one thing that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an on-access real-time scanning function... -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of David Hinkle Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, such as firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We do use ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past). However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, greylisting), are implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also use spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to SPF, greylisting and some additional header analysis. There's no download link, but of course our customers can request any GPL software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases third parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in possession of the binaries and request a specific software package used in the product by name. (See GPLv3 6-b). We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software is linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on the development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for us, not an end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with the spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email at no charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But you'd have to tell me what package you want the source for. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG Welcome, the list have been quite of late. I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in learning more about it. Regards. On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in > becoming involved with the LUG. > > David > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: 9/27/2008 1:11 PM From hinkle@cipafilter.com Mon Sep 29 16:02:07 2008 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:02:07 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com><41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> <809F949894774D5AB54EC586C92DB1FD@pcdomain.local> Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB81@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Unfortunately what actually prevents a real time anti-virus engine for = windows from being released to the wild under the GPL is that fact that = in order to write such an engine, a person needs Microsoft's specialized = dev kit for interfacing with the hard drive device layer. Such device = drivers are called file system filters or minifilters. This dev kit is = only offered under terms that are very hostile to anybody releasing a = GPL real time anti-virus engine. I don't think anybody with the = wherewithal to write such an engine has had the guts to test Microsoft = in court. What we did, was to write a standalone application called a "minifilter" = that is loaded like a device driver. Another standalone application = that is a tray client and user interface. Then I ported the clamav = engine to windows and turned it into a service that accepts requests to = scan over a named pipe. The source code for the clamav port is = available, of course, but the other two applications are proprietary. = I am actually going to propose to my company that we open source this = project, but the decision is not mine alone. Before we wrote this, we actually tried working with clamwin project = instead. I offered to work with them on the port and they accepted my = offer but then they just strung me along for months without giving me = access to their repositories. We couldn't afford to wait for them so we = had to develop our own, which was a very expensive and time consuming = project, as you may imagine. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Aaron Johnson Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 7:59 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG =20 I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time antivirus = client based on the open source ClamAV engine. Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one = thing that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an on-access real-time scanning function...=20 -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf = Of David Hinkle Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, such = as firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We do = use ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past). =20 However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, greylisting), = are implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also use spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to SPF, greylisting and some additional header analysis. =20 There's no download link, but of course our customers can request any = GPL software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases = third parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in possession = of the binaries and request a specific software package used in the product = by name. (See GPLv3 6-b). We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software is linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on the development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for us, = not an end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with the spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email at = no charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But you'd = have to tell me what package you want the source for. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG =20 Welcome, the list have been quite of late. I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some =20 GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you =20 have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in =20 learning more about it. Regards. On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. =20 > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that =20 > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in =20 > becoming involved with the LUG. > > David > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: = 9/27/2008 1:11 PM _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/5060457f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dmichael.burns@gmail.com Tue Sep 30 03:40:34 2008 From: dmichael.burns@gmail.com (DMichael Burns) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:40:34 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB81@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> <809F949894774D5AB54EC586C92DB1FD@pcdomain.local> <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB81@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I really like what I read about your product, and welcome to the group. Now, for a little sarcasm on my part - > a person needs Microsoft's specialized dev kit for interfacing with the > hard drive device layer...This dev kit is only offered under terms that are > very hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time anti-virus engine. I > don't think anybody with the wherewithal to write such an engine has had the > guts to test Microsoft in court. > That is how Microsoft follows through on their promise to be more accepting of the Open Source Community. :) Zonie On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:02 AM, David Hinkle wrote: > Unfortunately what actually prevents a real time anti-virus engine for > windows from being released to the wild under the GPL is that fact that in > order to write such an engine, a person needs Microsoft's specialized dev > kit for interfacing with the hard drive device layer. Such device drivers > are called file system filters or minifilters. This dev kit is only offered > under terms that are very hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time > anti-virus engine. I don't think anybody with the wherewithal to write such > an engine has had the guts to test Microsoft in court. > > What we did, was to write a standalone application called a "minifilter" > that is loaded like a device driver. Another standalone application that is > a tray client and user interface. Then I ported the clamav engine to > windows and turned it into a service that accepts requests to scan over a > named pipe. The source code for the clamav port is available, of course, > but the other two applications are proprietary. I am actually going to > propose to my company that we open source this project, but the decision is > not mine alone. > > Before we wrote this, we actually tried working with clamwin project > instead. I offered to work with them on the port and they accepted my offer > but then they just strung me along for months without giving me access to > their repositories. We couldn't afford to wait for them so we had to > develop our own, which was a very expensive and time consuming project, as > you may imagine. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Aaron Johnson > Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 7:59 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time antivirus > client > based on the open source ClamAV engine. > > Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one thing > that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an > on-access real-time scanning function... > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] > On Behalf Of > David Hinkle > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, such as > firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We do use > ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past). > > However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, greylisting), are > implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also use > spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we > developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to SPF, > greylisting and some additional header analysis. > > There's no download link, but of course our customers can request any GPL > software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases third > parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in possession of > the binaries and request a specific software package used in the product by > name. (See GPLv3 6-b). > > We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software is > linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on the > development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for us, not > an > end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. > > But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with the > spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL > package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email at no > charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But you'd > have > to tell me what package you want the source for. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert > Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > Welcome, the list have been quite of late. > > I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some > GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you > have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in > learning more about it. > > Regards. > > > On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > > > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. > > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that > > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in > > becoming involved with the LUG. > > > > David > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: 9/27/2008 > 1:11 PM > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > -- "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them is still in its infancy." --Bill Cosby, American Comedian ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/f3ab3d5a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Tue Sep 30 04:07:58 2008 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:07:58 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB81@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com><41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> <809F949894774D5AB54EC586C92DB1FD@pcdomain.local> <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB81@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Also: I ran into this links related ot real time scanning on windows using ClamAV. How to Enable Real Time Virus Scanning for ClamAV http://www.techmalaya.com/2008/05/10/clamav-real-time-scan/ But -- this is really off-topic for our group ? right ? :) On Sep 29, 2008, at 10:02 AM, David Hinkle wrote: > Unfortunately what actually prevents a real time anti-virus engine > for windows from being released to the wild under the GPL is that > fact that in order to write such an engine, a person needs > Microsoft's specialized dev kit for interfacing with the hard drive > device layer. Such device drivers are called file system filters or > minifilters. This dev kit is only offered under terms that are very > hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time anti-virus engine. I > don't think anybody with the wherewithal to write such an engine has > had the guts to test Microsoft in court. > > What we did, was to write a standalone application called a > "minifilter" that is loaded like a device driver. Another > standalone application that is a tray client and user interface. > Then I ported the clamav engine to windows and turned it into a > service that accepts requests to scan over a named pipe. The source > code for the clamav port is available, of course, but the other two > applications are proprietary. I am actually going to propose to my > company that we open source this project, but the decision is not > mine alone. > > Before we wrote this, we actually tried working with clamwin project > instead. I offered to work with them on the port and they accepted > my offer but then they just strung me along for months without > giving me access to their repositories. We couldn't afford to wait > for them so we had to develop our own, which was a very expensive > and time consuming project, as you may imagine. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Aaron Johnson > Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 7:59 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time > antivirus client > based on the open source ClamAV engine. > > Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one > thing > that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an > on-access real-time scanning function... > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On > Behalf Of > David Hinkle > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, > such as > firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We > do use > ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past). > > However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, > greylisting), are > implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also > use > spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we > developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to > SPF, > greylisting and some additional header analysis. > > There's no download link, but of course our customers can request > any GPL > software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases > third > parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in > possession of > the binaries and request a specific software package used in the > product by > name. (See GPLv3 6-b). > > We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software > is > linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on > the > development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for > us, not an > end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. > > But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with > the > spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL > package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email > at no > charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But > you'd have > to tell me what package you want the source for. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert > Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > Welcome, the list have been quite of late. > > I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some > GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you > have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in > learning more about it. > > Regards. > > > On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > > > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. > > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that > > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in > > becoming involved with the LUG. > > > > David > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: > 9/27/2008 > 1:11 PM > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > Dave Bergert dbergert@gmail.com ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/2939c75b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Sep 30 15:21:32 2008 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:21:32 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] QCLUG References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7E@cipapdc.cipafilter.com><41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB7F@cipapdc.cipafilter.com><809F949894774D5AB54EC586C92DB1FD@pcdomain.local><41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB81@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF189470117EB8A@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Anti-virus is an industry wide cash cow. My company's product is a very = easy sell because we can save schools thousands of dollars on anti-virus = alone. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of DMichael Burns Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 9:40 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG =20 I really like what I read about your product, and welcome to the group. Now, for a little sarcasm on my part - > a person needs Microsoft's specialized dev kit for interfacing with = the > hard drive device layer...This dev kit is only offered under terms = that are > very hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time anti-virus engine. = I > don't think anybody with the wherewithal to write such an engine has = had the > guts to test Microsoft in court. > That is how Microsoft follows through on their promise to be more = accepting of the Open Source Community. :) Zonie On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:02 AM, David Hinkle = wrote: > Unfortunately what actually prevents a real time anti-virus engine = for > windows from being released to the wild under the GPL is that fact = that in > order to write such an engine, a person needs Microsoft's specialized = dev > kit for interfacing with the hard drive device layer. Such device = drivers > are called file system filters or minifilters. This dev kit is only = offered > under terms that are very hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time > anti-virus engine. I don't think anybody with the wherewithal to = write such > an engine has had the guts to test Microsoft in court. > > What we did, was to write a standalone application called a = "minifilter" > that is loaded like a device driver. Another standalone application = that is > a tray client and user interface. Then I ported the clamav engine to > windows and turned it into a service that accepts requests to scan = over a > named pipe. The source code for the clamav port is available, of = course, > but the other two applications are proprietary. I am actually going = to > propose to my company that we open source this project, but the = decision is > not mine alone. > > Before we wrote this, we actually tried working with clamwin project > instead. I offered to work with them on the port and they accepted my = offer > but then they just strung me along for months without giving me access = to > their repositories. We couldn't afford to wait for them so we had to > develop our own, which was a very expensive and time consuming = project, as > you may imagine. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Aaron Johnson > Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 7:59 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time antivirus > client > based on the open source ClamAV engine. > > Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one = thing > that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an > on-access real-time scanning function... > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org = [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] > On Behalf Of > David Hinkle > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, such = as > firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We do = use > ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past). > > However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, = greylisting), are > implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also = use > spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we > developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to = SPF, > greylisting and some additional header analysis. > > There's no download link, but of course our customers can request any = GPL > software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases = third > parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in = possession of > the binaries and request a specific software package used in the = product by > name. (See GPLv3 6-b). > > We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software = is > linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on = the > development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for us, = not > an > end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. > > But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with = the > spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL > package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email = at no > charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But = you'd > have > to tell me what package you want the source for. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert > Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > Welcome, the list have been quite of late. > > I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some > GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you > have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in > learning more about it. > > Regards. > > > On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > > > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. > > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that > > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in > > becoming involved with the LUG. > > > > David > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: = 9/27/2008 > 1:11 PM > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > --=20 "Men and women belong to different species and communications between = them is still in its infancy." --Bill Cosby, American Comedian ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 10:07 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG =20 Also: I ran into this links related ot real time scanning on windows =20 using ClamAV. How to Enable Real Time Virus Scanning for ClamAV http://www.techmalaya.com/2008/05/10/clamav-real-time-scan/ But -- this is really off-topic for our group ? right ? :) On Sep 29, 2008, at 10:02 AM, David Hinkle wrote: > Unfortunately what actually prevents a real time anti-virus engine =20 > for windows from being released to the wild under the GPL is that =20 > fact that in order to write such an engine, a person needs =20 > Microsoft's specialized dev kit for interfacing with the hard drive =20 > device layer. Such device drivers are called file system filters or =20 > minifilters. This dev kit is only offered under terms that are very =20 > hostile to anybody releasing a GPL real time anti-virus engine. I =20 > don't think anybody with the wherewithal to write such an engine has =20 > had the guts to test Microsoft in court. > > What we did, was to write a standalone application called a =20 > "minifilter" that is loaded like a device driver. Another =20 > standalone application that is a tray client and user interface. =20 > Then I ported the clamav engine to windows and turned it into a =20 > service that accepts requests to scan over a named pipe. The source =20 > code for the clamav port is available, of course, but the other two =20 > applications are proprietary. I am actually going to propose to my =20 > company that we open source this project, but the decision is not =20 > mine alone. > > Before we wrote this, we actually tried working with clamwin project =20 > instead. I offered to work with them on the port and they accepted =20 > my offer but then they just strung me along for months without =20 > giving me access to their repositories. We couldn't afford to wait =20 > for them so we had to develop our own, which was a very expensive =20 > and time consuming project, as you may imagine. > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Aaron Johnson > Sent: Mon 9/29/2008 7:59 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > I noticed that your appliance (CIPAFilter) uses a real-time =20 > antivirus client > based on the open source ClamAV engine. > > Does DerbyTech contribute to the ClamWin project at all? I know one =20 > thing > that ClamWin has been talking about for a LONG time is developing an > on-access real-time scanning function... > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On =20 > Behalf Of > David Hinkle > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:46 AM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: RE: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > CIPAFilter uses a lot of open source for our basic functionality, =20 > such as > firewall, routing, NAT, etc... We use Ubunto Linux for the OS. We =20 > do use > ClamAv, but not freeswan or squid. (We did use freeswan in the past). > > However, our core features (such as the proxy, reporting, =20 > greylisting), are > implemented with proprietary non-gpl software we developed. We also =20 > use > spamassassin and sendmail in conjunction with a proprietary milter we > developed for our mail features and to implement some extensions to =20 > SPF, > greylisting and some additional header analysis. > > There's no download link, but of course our customers can request =20 > any GPL > software from us that we distribute with our product. In some cases =20 > third > parties can also make requests from us, but you need to be in =20 > possession of > the binaries and request a specific software package used in the =20 > product by > name. (See GPLv3 6-b). > > We're very careful about licensing, none of our proprietary software =20 > is > linked with GPL binaries or libraries, and as a company we focus on =20 > the > development of our proprietary software. Linux is a platform for =20 > us, not an > end to itself. It does, however, make an excellent platform. > > But all that being said, we also believe in being in compliance with =20 > the > spirit of the GPL. For example, if someone wants the source for a GPL > package I've actually modified I'll be happy to provide it via email =20 > at no > charge, and I don't much care if they're a customer or not. But =20 > you'd have > to tell me what package you want the source for. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Dave Bergert > Sent: Sun 9/28/2008 10:41 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] QCLUG > > Welcome, the list have been quite of late. > > I was looking at CIPAFiler .. It appears that CIPAFilter uses some > GPL'ed open source projects, e..g FreeSwan, ClamAV, squid. -- do you > have a link to download the source of CIPAFilter ? I'm interested in > learning more about it. > > Regards. > > > On Sep 28, 2008, at 9:23 PM, David Hinkle wrote: > > > > > Active? Alive? What's your status. I'm David Hinkle, Sr. > > Programmer for CIPAFilter. CIPAFilter is a Quad Cities company that > > specializes in products using embedded linux. I'm interested in > > becoming involved with the LUG. > > > > David > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.4/1695 - Release Date: =20 > 9/27/2008 > 1:11 PM > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > Dave Bergert dbergert@gmail.com ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/d681ff50/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--