From dan@cpugeek.org Fri Apr 3 01:15:45 2009 From: dan@cpugeek.org (Dan Schlichting) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:15:45 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Security Certificate In-Reply-To: <49CA94B9.6070602@haleprint.com> References: <49CA51DB.1030705@haleprint.com> <49CA8313.7050807@haleprint.com> <49CA94B9.6070602@haleprint.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Jack, Sorry I haven't gotten back to you. I have been busy. I remember helping but I think noah set this up. Are you still haveing the issue? I can try to make time to look at it next week. Thanks Dan On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:31 PM, jack wrote: > Hi Dan ol Buddy. If I remember right... You set up the Mail Server :-) . > If you can remember your user name and Password you can SSH into the email > box and check it out. > > Let me know > Jack > > ============================================================ > Dan Schlichting wrote: > >> With out knowing how it is setup. I can only guess that your ssl >> certificate needs to be rebuild. >> >> Who helped you set it up again. >> >> Sounds like the ceritificate needs to be recreated. >> >> Dan >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:16 PM, jack > jack@haleprint.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, Thanks for the response. I checked the Bios and the Sys. >> clock is set correctly and so is the Desktop clock on the server >> and the Clients are all correct. I will check the Firewall to see >> if the time is correct as well. >> >> >> Thanks but not fixed yet. >> Jack >> >> >> >> ==================================================================================== >> Tim Shearouse wrote: >> >> Just a thought: Are the system clocks on both computers >> correct? If the CMOS battery died or something similar >> happened to mess up the date on either the server or client, >> it may incorrectly show an expired certificate. >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM, jack > > >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, Been a long time since my last post. Probably at >> least a >> few years. My question has to do with my email server (local >> Host). My Local Host (Linux Ubuntu) security certificate has >> expired and I get a popup window that Pops up everytime I >> check my >> email with Thunderbird on Linux, Windows, and Mac machines. How >> can I make the Cert. Current? What do I have to do to stop >> this. I >> do have access in house to the server and I know just >> enough to be >> dangerous. >> >> >> Thanks for the help >> Jack >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> > >> >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/bc9fe9d3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From jmkris@gmail.com Sun Apr 5 20:16:08 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:16:08 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting Message-ID: If I remember correctly we were going to have the April 14th meeting at=A0CIPIA Filter If we get invited. The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf Library, and then decide on a location after everyone had a chance to checkout all the options. If we continue to rotate the location I think it may work out. If it is not convenient for CPIA Filter, is Augi a go? Jim K From t.shearouse@gmail.com Sun Apr 5 20:40:41 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:40:41 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Augie would work, yes -- just let me know whether CIPA Filter goes through. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > If I remember correctly we were going to have the April 14th meeting > at CIPIA Filter If we get invited. > > The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf Library, and then decide on > a location after everyone had a chance to checkout all the options. > If we continue to rotate the location I think it may work out. > > If it is not convenient for CPIA Filter, is Augi a go? > > Jim K > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/893306fb/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Mon Apr 6 00:26:00 2009 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:26:00 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting References: Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A72A@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I will double check with management but I'm sure CIPAFilter is a go. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Tim Shearouse Sent: Sun 4/5/2009 2:40 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] April Meeting =20 Augie would work, yes -- just let me know whether CIPA Filter goes = through. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > If I remember correctly we were going to have the April 14th meeting > at CIPIA Filter If we get invited. > > The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf Library, and then decide on > a location after everyone had a chance to checkout all the options. > If we continue to rotate the location I think it may work out. > > If it is not convenient for CPIA Filter, is Augi a go? > > Jim K > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/29a4879a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From QCAdmin@gmail.com Tue Apr 7 01:26:31 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:31 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Ubuntu /var/run Message-ID: Today I ran into an interesting issue. Under Ubuntu, /var/run and /var/lock exist as ram drives. root@TheNozzle:~# mount tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) The reasoning behind this (as posted on the dev forums) is so that file locks and PID files will be cleared during a reboot. While this isn't a horrible way to do this, it does create a few unique issues. The issue I ran into today was trying to hard link a socket created in /var/run into a chroot. Since hard links can't span multiple partitions, I had to get creative. While this isn't a huge issue for 99% of people (this is the first time I even noticed this after using Ubuntu for several years), it is something to keep in back of your head if you write a lot of shell scripts, or interact with daemons and sockets that live in /var/run Cooper From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Apr 7 17:01:35 2009 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:01:35 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting References: Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A745@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Yea, you guys are officially invited on the 14th. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Tim Shearouse Sent: Sun 4/5/2009 2:40 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] April Meeting =20 Augie would work, yes -- just let me know whether CIPA Filter goes = through. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > If I remember correctly we were going to have the April 14th meeting > at CIPIA Filter If we get invited. > > The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf Library, and then decide on > a location after everyone had a chance to checkout all the options. > If we continue to rotate the location I think it may work out. > > If it is not convenient for CPIA Filter, is Augi a go? > > Jim K > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/caf25d27/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From kmac1036@hotmail.com Tue Apr 7 18:38:42 2009 From: kmac1036@hotmail.com (Keith Claussen) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:38:42 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: 96% of netbooks now run Windows??? In-Reply-To: <574956370904071037y201c585ay62cda63e8393c2ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <574956370904071037y201c585ay62cda63e8393c2ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <574956370904071038w3e0f5e45v6e654787fc07d8cd@mail.gmail.com> Thoughts? Microsoft bragging too early in the game? http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/06/microsoft-boasts-that-96-of-netbooks-now-run-windows/ From jmkris@gmail.com Tue Apr 7 20:13:24 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:13:24 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A745@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A745@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: Thanks David looks like we are a go. And thank you Tim for your offer, hope we see you at CPIA Filter on the 14th. Jim K On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, David Hinkle wrote: > Yea, you guys are officially invited on the 14th. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Tim Shearouse > Sent: Sun 4/5/2009 2:40 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] April Meeting > > Augie would work, yes -- just let me know whether CIPA Filter goes through. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > >> If I remember correctly we were going to have the April 14th meeting >> at CIPIA Filter If we get invited. >> >> The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf Library, and then decide on >> a location after everyone had a chance to checkout all the options. >> If we continue to rotate the location I think it may work out. >> >> If it is not convenient for CPIA Filter, is Augi a go? >> >> Jim K >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > From arronlorenz@gmail.com Tue Apr 7 20:13:32 2009 From: arronlorenz@gmail.com (Arron Lorenz) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:13:32 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Here is a netbook deal I found on geeks.com for those with smallerfingers. In-Reply-To: References: <49CBACBB.5080606@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490903260931j5c4a0b1fk8a86dc5691cdce77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <30cf66b30904071213s11b2a31dsd01273fb53e9490a@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I purchased the $200 dell mini 9 for my mom using that deal and it's great! I will say that the mini 9 is nothing like my new wind. For $350 on eBay I just got a msi wind u100 which has a 10" screen larger keyboard, webcam, b/g/n wireless, bluetooth, 2gb ddr, 160gb sata, and 6 cell battery. I've currently got OSX on it, and am going to switch that back out for Ubuntu once I play with it a bit. It was a refurb but hey I'm happy with my purchase. My mom is also more then happy with here mini 9, i have it set up to tunnel through hamachi so that she can access quickbooks on my VMware server box. All in all I've been having a great couple of weeks with netbooks in general. Arron Lorenz On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > At 2:00 AM Wednesday I saw that Dell was selling the Mini 9 (I hear it's > the same as an MSI Wind) for $200, that's with Ubuntu, 8 Gig Solid State > hard drive, 9" screen, 512 Ram,card reader, and wifi. I ordered one. Since > the offer ended at 6:00 AM Eastern time I did not post the offer. > Jim K > > 2009/3/26 Mark Riedesel > > Interesting, pretty sure that's a rebranded MSI Wind.. >> >> 2009/3/26 agamotto : >> > Link: >> > >> http://www.geeks.com/pix/2009/GNET.html?cm_mmc=geekmail-_-daily_html-_-12mar09_GNET-Viewasweb >> > _______________________________________________ >> > QCLUG mailing list >> > QCLUG@qclug.org >> > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > -- From: Arron James Lorenz Reel to Reel Drive In DavenportDriveIn.com Profit is only profitable to the extent that you can use it ~Timothy Ferris ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/57d685f0/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From jmkris@gmail.com Tue Apr 7 20:25:26 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:25:26 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Here is a netbook deal I found on geeks.com for those with smallerfingers. In-Reply-To: <30cf66b30904071213s11b2a31dsd01273fb53e9490a@mail.gmail.com> References: <49CBACBB.5080606@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490903260931j5c4a0b1fk8a86dc5691cdce77@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b30904071213s11b2a31dsd01273fb53e9490a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I stand corrected on the MSI Wind comparison. My Mini 9 and the 2 Gig of RAM I ordered are in transit, I feel like a kid on Dec 21st. At $200 I wish I had ordered several. I am not sure what I would use it for but I'm thinking I should have added Blue Tooth. Jim K On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Arron Lorenz wrote: > I purchased the $200 dell mini 9 for my mom using that deal and it's great! > I will say that the mini 9 is nothing like my new wind. For $350 on eBay I > just got a msi wind u100 which has a 10" screen larger keyboard, webcam, > b/g/n wireless, bluetooth, 2gb ddr, 160gb sata, and 6 cell battery. I've > currently got OSX on it, and am going to switch that back out for Ubuntu > once I play with it a bit. > It was a refurb but hey I'm happy with my purchase. My mom is also more then > happy with here mini 9, i have it set up to tunnel through hamachi so that > she can access quickbooks on my VMware server box. > All in all I've been having a great couple of weeks with netbooks in > general. > Arron Lorenz > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: >> >> At 2:00 AM Wednesday I saw that Dell was selling the Mini 9 (I hear it's >> the same as an MSI Wind) for $200, that's with Ubuntu, 8 Gig Solid State >> hard drive, 9" screen, 512 Ram,card reader, and wifi. I ordered one. Since >> the offer ended at 6:00 AM Eastern time I did not post the offer. >> Jim K >> >> 2009/3/26 Mark Riedesel >>> >>> Interesting, pretty sure that's a rebranded MSI Wind.. >>> >>> 2009/3/26 agamotto : >>> > Link: >>> > >>> > http://www.geeks.com/pix/2009/GNET.html?cm_mmc=geekmail-_-daily_html-_-12mar09_GNET-Viewasweb >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > QCLUG mailing list >>> > QCLUG@qclug.org >>> > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > > > -- > From: > Arron James Lorenz > Reel to Reel Drive In > DavenportDriveIn.com > > Profit is only profitable to the extent that you can use it ~Timothy Ferris > > From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Apr 7 20:35:36 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:35:36 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Here is a netbook deal I found on geeks.com for those with smallerfingers. In-Reply-To: References: <49CBACBB.5080606@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490903260931j5c4a0b1fk8a86dc5691cdce77@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b30904071213s11b2a31dsd01273fb53e9490a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490904071235r40284398l25e377782225df61@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > I stand corrected on the MSI Wind comparison. My Mini 9 and the 2 Gig > of RAM I ordered are in transit, I feel like a kid on Dec 21st. > > At $200 I wish I had ordered several. I am not sure what I would use > it for but I'm thinking I should have added Blue Tooth. > > Jim K My Aspire One didn't include bluetooth, so I got one of these tiny little buggers http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W4TZSC Works like a charm, and also fits in my ear. Now I just need to find rubber replacement feet that fit properly. From jmkris@gmail.com Tue Apr 7 22:37:05 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:37:05 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Here is a netbook deal I found on geeks.com for those with smallerfingers. In-Reply-To: <1c9537490904071235r40284398l25e377782225df61@mail.gmail.com> References: <49CBACBB.5080606@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490903260931j5c4a0b1fk8a86dc5691cdce77@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b30904071213s11b2a31dsd01273fb53e9490a@mail.gmail.com> <1c9537490904071235r40284398l25e377782225df61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If the small Blue Tooth thing works with Linux, it's good to know that I have that option. Thanks Jim K On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: >> I stand corrected on the MSI Wind comparison. My Mini 9 and the 2 Gig >> of RAM I ordered are in transit, I feel like a kid on Dec 21st. >> >> At $200 I wish I had ordered several. I am not sure what I would use >> it for but I'm thinking I should have added Blue Tooth. >> >> Jim K > > My Aspire One didn't include bluetooth, so I got one of these tiny > little buggers > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W4TZSC > > Works like a charm, and also fits in my ear. Now I just need to find > rubber replacement feet that fit properly. > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From t.shearouse@gmail.com Wed Apr 8 00:26:16 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:26:16 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A745@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I doubt I can make it this time, but wait a couple months and you'll be seeing more of me. I (finally) graduate and start work ... which means a car and more free time :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > Thanks David looks like we are a go. And thank you Tim for your offer, > hope we see you at CPIA Filter on the 14th. > > Jim K > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, David Hinkle > wrote: > > Yea, you guys are officially invited on the 14th. > > > > David > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of Tim Shearouse > > Sent: Sun 4/5/2009 2:40 PM > > To: qclug@qclug.org > > Subject: Re: [QCLUG] April Meeting > > > > Augie would work, yes -- just let me know whether CIPA Filter goes > through. > > > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > > > >> If I remember correctly we were going to have the April 14th meeting > >> at CIPIA Filter If we get invited. > >> > >> The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf Library, and then decide on > >> a location after everyone had a chance to checkout all the options. > >> If we continue to rotate the location I think it may work out. > >> > >> If it is not convenient for CPIA Filter, is Augi a go? > >> > >> Jim K > >> _______________________________________________ > >> QCLUG mailing list > >> QCLUG@qclug.org > >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The keyboard is pretty tiny, really, but I felt that since I am in Taiwan, I should buy a Taiwan brand, for kicks. My other choice was a Acer One, but I felt it looked pretty ugly and was more expensive. On 4/8/09, Jim Kristan wrote: > If the small Blue Tooth thing works with Linux, it's good to know that > I have that option. > Thanks > Jim K > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > >> I stand corrected on the MSI Wind comparison. My Mini 9 and the 2 Gig > >> of RAM I ordered are in transit, I feel like a kid on Dec 21st. > >> > >> At $200 I wish I had ordered several. I am not sure what I would use > >> it for but I'm thinking I should have added Blue Tooth. > >> > >> Jim K > > > > My Aspire One didn't include bluetooth, so I got one of these tiny > > little buggers > > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W4TZSC > > > > Works like a charm, and also fits in my ear. Now I just need to find > > rubber replacement feet that fit properly. > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From leif.theden@gmail.com Wed Apr 8 15:14:51 2009 From: leif.theden@gmail.com (Leif Theden) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:14:51 +0800 Subject: [QCLUG] Re: 96% of netbooks now run Windows??? In-Reply-To: <574956370904071038w3e0f5e45v6e654787fc07d8cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <574956370904071037y201c585ay62cda63e8393c2ec@mail.gmail.com> <574956370904071038w3e0f5e45v6e654787fc07d8cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9a65bf850904080714v5e961894n4bc5ac875214645a@mail.gmail.com> Who published this statistic again? On 4/8/09, Keith Claussen wrote: > Thoughts? Microsoft bragging too early in the game? > > http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/06/microsoft-boasts-that-96-of-netbooks-now-run-windows/ > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From jmkris@gmail.com Mon Apr 13 17:39:51 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:39:51 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] April Meeting Message-ID: Since meetings are a moving target, just thought I'd mention the next meeting is 6:30 PM Tuesday the 14th at: CIPAFilter 700 16th Ave. East Moline, IL 61244 AKA the Derby Tech Building Next door to the East Moline Library 16th Ave is the West bound one way. The May meeting will be at the Bettendorf library. Jim K From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sat Apr 18 12:34:54 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:34:54 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Computer troubles - Note that this isn't a Linux box Message-ID: <49E9BADE.6040106@RM-Jones.com> Please forgive me but this is to good not to show you. Since I doubt if any of you get the Kim Komando newsletter (which is for Windows) I thought you may enjoy it. This is a blond, female version of me. The other one is my evil side which pops up from time to time. Note that this is a Windows computer. Linux would never get a person to this state :-) Again, sorry if this isn't the place for this. But it's fun to watch. Bob Jones http://videos.komando.com/2009/04/18/computer-troubles/ From jmkris@gmail.com Sun Apr 19 01:22:15 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:22:15 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Dell Mini 9 Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A few weeks ago this website http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/ said that Dell had a 24 hour sale on the Dell Mini 9 for $200, I got one and really like it! If you were at the last meeting you saw it. But I also understand that the smaller screen and keyboard may not please everyone. It's not a super computer, but it's very handy when you don't have a computer. The same web site says that Dell is now selling a Vistro A90 "a Mini 9 in disguise" I poked around the Dell business site and found it for $200, except that it includes a camera that mine did not. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-vostro-a90?c=us&cs=04&l=en&ref=lthp&s=bsd I don't get a commission, it just seems like a good deal. Jim Kristan ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/8d825d79/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From hinkle@cipafilter.com Sun Apr 19 06:26:05 2009 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:26:05 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] List Server? Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A7A4@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment What list server is qclug using? CIPAFilter is considering starting a = listserv for our customers. David ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/227e2870/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From vorlon@dodds.net Sun Apr 19 07:47:28 2009 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:47:28 -0700 Subject: [QCLUG] List Server? In-Reply-To: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A7A4@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> References: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A7A4@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> Message-ID: <20090419064727.GA1565@dario.dodds.net> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:26:05AM -0500, David Hinkle wrote: > What list server is qclug using? CIPAFilter is considering starting a listserv for our customers. X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 (from the list headers) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org From dbergert@gmail.com Sun Apr 19 18:53:57 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:53:57 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Dell Mini 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10154D1C-F948-4590-A455-CDDA010A04B6@gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Thanks for the Note, I ordered the Ubuntu Version -- I will recieve it 5/22 or so. On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > A few weeks ago this website > > http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/ > > said that Dell had a 24 hour sale on the Dell Mini 9 for $200, I > got one and really like it! If you were at the last meeting you saw > it. But I also understand that the smaller screen and keyboard may > not please everyone. It's not a super computer, but it's very handy > when you don't have a computer. > > The same web site says that Dell is now selling a Vistro A90 "a Mini > 9 in disguise" > > I poked around the Dell business site and found it for $200, except > that it includes a camera that mine did not. > > http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-vostro-a90?c=us&cs=04&l=en&ref=lthp&s=bsd > > I don't get a commission, it just seems like a good deal. > > Jim Kristan > > Dave Bergert dbergert@gmail.com ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/1f56112a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From jmkris@gmail.com Sun Apr 19 19:49:46 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:49:46 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Dell Mini 9 In-Reply-To: <10154D1C-F948-4590-A455-CDDA010A04B6@gmail.com> References: <10154D1C-F948-4590-A455-CDDA010A04B6@gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment You are welcome Dave, I ordered one for a friend. I think netbooks will get a lot of people using Linux that would not otherwise have done so. Dell usually ships way sooner than the date they give you. Mine came weeks early :-) I added a 16Gig SD card for storage, and at the price of RAM, how could you not kick it up to 2 Gigs, just because you can. I'm having way too much fun with my new toy. Next week Ubuntu is putting out a version optimized for netbooks. Jim K On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > Thanks for the Note, I ordered the Ubuntu Version -- I will recieve it 5/22 > or so. > > > > On Apr 18, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > > A few weeks ago this website > http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/ > > said that Dell had a 24 hour sale on the Dell Mini 9 for $200, I got one > and really like it! If you were at the last meeting you saw it. But I also > understand that the smaller screen and keyboard may not please everyone. > It's not a super computer, but it's very handy when you don't have a > computer. > > The same web site says that Dell is now selling a Vistro A90 "a Mini 9 in > disguise" > > I poked around the Dell business site and found it for $200, except that it > includes a camera that mine did not. > > > http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-vostro-a90?c=us&cs=04&l=en&ref=lthp&s=bsd > > I don't get a commission, it just seems like a good deal. > > Jim Kristan > > > > Dave Bergert > dbergert@gmail.com > > > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/3ede2df3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Tue Apr 21 17:23:51 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:23:51 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue Message-ID: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Debian Etch I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on average twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the card the rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner back to the card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be recognised again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think of. Tools for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I really want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the NIC. Command line, something. Any thoughts? Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/9a6d145b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dan@cpugeek.org Tue Apr 21 18:20:20 2009 From: dan@cpugeek.org (Dan Schlichting) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:20:20 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment If you turn off or unplug a scsi device you need to reboot to make it work. Just about every operating system I have seen. It initializes when it is powered on. Dan On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > Debian Etch > > I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on average > twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the card the > rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner back to the > card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be recognised > again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think of. Tools > for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I really > want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the NIC. > Command line, something. > > Any thoughts? > > Jim > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/4e8e9393/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Tue Apr 21 20:21:42 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:21:42 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue In-Reply-To: References: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0904211221o4c8e8300g86afd5d1010d798e@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Schlichting wrote: > If you turn off or unplug a scsi device you need to reboot to make it work. > > Just about every operating system I have seen. > > It initializes when it is powered on. > > Dan > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > >> Debian Etch >> >> I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on average >> twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the card the >> rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner back to the >> card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be recognised >> again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think of. Tools >> for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I really >> want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the NIC. >> Command line, something. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Jim >> > > Are you talking about the card? The card initializes at boot. OK, fine. Or are you saying that unpluging the device (scanner) kills the bus? If so, then how do hotplug SCSI drives work? I found lots of tools for that. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/5aea77c9/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dan@cpugeek.org Tue Apr 21 20:27:15 2009 From: dan@cpugeek.org (Dan Schlichting) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:27:15 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0904211221o4c8e8300g86afd5d1010d798e@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0904211221o4c8e8300g86afd5d1010d798e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment That is exactly what I am saying. The hotplug devices are setup with in the device. for instance a hard drive enclosure that you can remove drives from. With a scanner you have to have it plugged in when you boot your machine. I could be wrong but I am pretty certain that is the way it works. Dan On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Schlichting wrote: > >> If you turn off or unplug a scsi device you need to reboot to make it >> work. >> >> Just about every operating system I have seen. >> >> It initializes when it is powered on. >> >> Dan >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jim Hall wrote: >> >>> Debian Etch >>> >>> I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on average >>> twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the card the >>> rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner back to the >>> card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be recognised >>> again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think of. Tools >>> for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I really >>> want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the NIC. >>> Command line, something. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> > > > Are you talking about the card? The card initializes at boot. OK, fine. Or > are you saying that unpluging the device (scanner) kills the bus? If so, > then how do hotplug SCSI drives work? I found lots of tools for that. > > Jim > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/c8b5a7b1/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Tue Apr 21 22:39:25 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:39:25 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue In-Reply-To: References: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> <997c8c1b0904211221o4c8e8300g86afd5d1010d798e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0904211439t5cfa7050uad13b5b4adacdcec@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Dan Schlichting wrote: > That is exactly what I am saying. The hotplug devices are setup with in the > device. for instance a hard drive enclosure that you can remove drives from. > With a scanner you have to have it plugged in when you boot your machine. > > I could be wrong but I am pretty certain that is the way it works. > > Dan > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dan Schlichting wrote: >> >>> If you turn off or unplug a scsi device you need to reboot to make it >>> work. >>> >>> Just about every operating system I have seen. >>> >>> It initializes when it is powered on. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jim Hall wrote: >>> >>>> Debian Etch >>>> >>>> I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on >>>> average twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the >>>> card the rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner >>>> back to the card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be >>>> recognised again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think >>>> of. Tools for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I >>>> really want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the >>>> NIC. Command line, something. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Are you talking about the card? The card initializes at boot. OK, fine. Or >> are you saying that unpluging the device (scanner) kills the bus? If so, >> then how do hotplug SCSI drives work? I found lots of tools for that. >> >> Jim >> > > Grrrrrrr! So this a waste of a good card and a good scanner. Rebooting is like going back to Windoze. I guess I'll have to see if I have a usable USB scanner. Thanks for the info, Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/21065695/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From vorlon@dodds.net Wed Apr 22 00:55:43 2009 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:55:43 -0700 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> References: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090421235542.GD21459@dario.dodds.net> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:23:51AM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on average > twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the card the > rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner back to the > card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be recognised > again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think of. Tools > for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I really > want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the NIC. > Command line, something. keywords: "rescan scsi bus" If you install the scsitools package, it comes with a tool called rescan-scsi-bus.sh that will (at least in theory) let you do exactly this. I'm assuming you don't need to scan LUNs or channels, just devices, so something like: rescan-scsi-bus.sh -r before you connect the scanner, and again when you unplug it and are done with it, should do the trick. If it doesn't, throw an extra "-w" option on there and try again. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Sat Apr 25 20:10:52 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:10:52 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] SCSI issue In-Reply-To: <20090421235542.GD21459@dario.dodds.net> References: <997c8c1b0904210923s44526f52nd80fd3ca83e0f312@mail.gmail.com> <20090421235542.GD21459@dario.dodds.net> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0904251210k56f67edctafa02762f6694899@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:23:51AM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > > > I have a scanner attached to an Adaptec card. Only use scanner on average > > twice a month for about 15 minutes, off and disconnedted from the card > the > > rest of the time. Most of the time after connecting the scanner back to > the > > card and powering it up I have to reboot for the card to be recognised > > again. I've searched the repositories with every term I can think of. > Tools > > for working with the bus - yes. Working with the card - no. All I really > > want to do is be able to restart the card similar to start/stop the NIC. > > Command line, something. > > keywords: "rescan scsi bus" > > If you install the scsitools package, it comes with a tool called > rescan-scsi-bus.sh that will (at least in theory) let you do exactly this. > > I'm assuming you don't need to scan LUNs or channels, just devices, so > something like: > > rescan-scsi-bus.sh -r > > before you connect the scanner, and again when you unplug it and are done > with it, should do the trick. If it doesn't, throw an extra "-w" option on > there and try again. > > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ > slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > Thanks, Steve. I've tried it for a few days and it works perfectly. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Wed Apr 29 20:30:17 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:30:17 -0500 Subject: [QCLUG] Movie Players In-Reply-To: <49F884C1.7030406@sbcglobal.net> References: <49F884C1.7030406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0904291230t53ce83ag44ca72846883f10d@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, agamotto@sbcglobal.net < agamotto@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Jim Hall wrote: > > > > >> Debian Lenny >> Intel dual core >> 2GB ram >> 250BG sata >> Nvidia 9600 gt >> >> The most common movie players installed. Had an issue with Wine. Resolved >> by installing latest Nvidia driver (180.51). Now players don't work. Gist of >> error msg is "can't find resource". Does anyone know enough about this to at >> least point me in a direction? >> >> Jim >> > > > I just checked... yes. I am not sure which part you are > having trouble with. Is it the Nvidia drivers for Windows under > WINE, or the binaries for Debian? > _______________________________________________ > Oh, sorry, not that part. The issue I had with Wine and Nvidia drivers was resolved. After that the movie players stopped working, ie.: "can't find resource" error msg. I think this means it can't use the DVD drive. I am clueless in this area so I was hoping someone had more of a clue than I do. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/fe13bcac/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--