From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 3 21:49:54 2009 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto@sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:49:54 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] January - a new year at last! Message-ID: <495FDD82.80706@sbcglobal.net> Hello all! Happy New Year and all that jazz. I just checked the archive and noticed that nothing had been posted in awhile, so I thought I would throw in a few cents. If we are holding to the norm of the second Tuesday, our next meeting will be on the 13th. Are there any particular requests for ideas at the meeting or a particular place we want to be? I open the debate - Randy From QCAdmin@gmail.com Sat Jan 3 21:52:18 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:52:18 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] January - a new year at last! In-Reply-To: <495FDD82.80706@sbcglobal.net> References: <495FDD82.80706@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Since we did Cipa last time, should we give Augy a try? On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, agamotto@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Hello all! Happy New Year and all that jazz. I just checked the archive > and noticed that nothing had been posted in awhile, so I thought I would > throw in a few cents. If we are holding to the norm of the second Tuesday, > our next meeting will be on the 13th. Are there any particular requests > for ideas at the meeting or a particular place we want to be? > > I open the debate - > > Randy > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From mriedesel@gmail.com Sat Jan 3 23:22:08 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:22:08 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] January - a new year at last! In-Reply-To: References: <495FDD82.80706@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1c9537490901031522k452d0f5fra294f7a99262eae8@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Seems like a reasonable idea to me. On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: > Since we did Cipa last time, should we give Augy a try? > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/89329cce/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Sun Jan 4 00:08:02 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:08:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] January - a new year at last! In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901031522k452d0f5fra294f7a99262eae8@mail.gmail.com> References: <495FDD82.80706@sbcglobal.net> <1c9537490901031522k452d0f5fra294f7a99262eae8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment If anyone's familiar with Augie, we have Olin room 305 available during that time and you all would be free to use any nearby faculty parking lot (they're fair game after 5pm). If you're not familiar with Augie, there's a faculty lot on the South corner of 7th Avenue and 35th Street in Rock Island. If you park there, it's just about a block South to Olin (3-story white building). http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=41.504632,-90.551296&daddr=35th+St&hl=en&geocode=%3BFcZJeQIdkUya-g&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=18&sll=41.504303,-90.549488&sspn=0.002957,0.004828&ie=UTF8&ll=41.504178,-90.550191&spn=0.002957,0.004828&t=h&z=18 On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Seems like a reasonable idea to me. > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: > >> Since we did Cipa last time, should we give Augy a try? >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/f71671dd/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sun Jan 4 17:55:46 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:55:46 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Anti-Virus Software for email Message-ID: <4960F822.1050802@RM-Jones.com> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you receive both. Happy New Year to everyone. I know there is no large need for anti-virus software when using Linux. However, to protect the people using Windows, when I forward email to them, I would like to be able to check my email when it comes in and/or when sending it. I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and prefer Thunderbird to read my email, but I can change to another. I have tried ClamAV but there is problems with it. Using KlamAV to maintain ClamAV it gets errors when trying to update the virus definitions. After Googling it I find this is a common situation with Ubuntu 8.10. I used Clamderib (maybe spelled wrong) to use ClamAV with Thunderbird but get errors when it tries to scan the email. I have tried Kmail and that seems to work but there are some features in Kmail I don't care for. I'll cover that in another email. So far I have broken Linux beyond my ability to repair it and so reinstalled it 3 times and still haven't found a way to scan my email. I have also tried some of the commercial Anti-Virus software like Avast and found they don't check email. My question is; Is there a better anti-virus program to use than ClamAV? If not can anyone give me any tips in installing it, other programs to install, or whatever that will assist me in getting this running. Right now I am in the process of installing Ubuntu again and so figured it would be a good time to ask for help. Have a Great Day Bob Jones From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sun Jan 4 17:57:49 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:57:49 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers Message-ID: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you receive both. This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for help with anti-virus software. I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so I guess it's time to ask for help. Thanks for the assistance. Bob Jones From QCAdmin@gmail.com Sun Jan 4 18:00:42 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:00:42 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Anti-Virus Software for email In-Reply-To: <4960F822.1050802@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F822.1050802@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: The only time you would really need AV is if you were mailing exe's or forwarding things from someone else. I, personally, won't forward something not from someone I already trust, and any exe I download to send to someone I run through http://www.virustotal.com/ But yes, I too have had many problems getting ClamAV to work right under ubuntu8.10. Even Ubuntu 8.04 Server has a lot of issues. The only way I have managed to get it running on Server is to download the sources and build them myself. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will re-send > using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you receive both. > > Happy New Year to everyone. > I know there is no large need for anti-virus software when using Linux. > However, to protect the people using Windows, when I forward email to them, > I would like to be able to check my email when it comes in and/or when > sending it. I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and prefer Thunderbird to read my email, > but I can change to another. I have tried ClamAV but there is problems with > it. Using KlamAV to maintain ClamAV it gets errors when trying to update > the virus definitions. After Googling it I find this is a common situation > with Ubuntu 8.10. I used Clamderib (maybe spelled wrong) to use ClamAV with > Thunderbird but get errors when it tries to scan the email. I have tried > Kmail and that seems to work but there are some features in Kmail I don't > care for. I'll cover that in another email. So far I have broken Linux > beyond my ability to repair it and so reinstalled it 3 times and still > haven't found a way to scan my email. I have also tried some of the > commercial Anti-Virus software like Avast and found they don't check email. > > My question is; Is there a better anti-virus program to use than ClamAV? If > not can anyone give me any tips in installing it, other programs to install, > or whatever that will assist me in getting this running. Right now I am in > the process of installing Ubuntu again and so figured it would be a good > time to ask for help. > > Have a Great Day > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sun Jan 4 18:30:06 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:30:06 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Anti-Virus Software for email In-Reply-To: References: <4960F822.1050802@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <4961002E.4060903@RM-Jones.com> Thank You Chris, I just went up and looked at virustotal.com and it seems that I could upload the file and then send it from there or send it there and have it checked then send it from my email program. Which do you use. I believe that Power Point, Word, and other attachments as well as .exe files can contain Windows virus'. Please correct me if that is wrong. I get a few Power Point and Word files that I forward on. Thanks again Bob Jones Chris Cooper wrote: > The only time you would really need AV is if you were mailing exe's or > forwarding things from someone else. I, personally, won't forward > something not from someone I already trust, and any exe I download to > send to someone I run through http://www.virustotal.com/ > > But yes, I too have had many problems getting ClamAV to work right > under ubuntu8.10. Even Ubuntu 8.04 Server has a lot of issues. The > only way I have managed to get it running on Server is to download the > sources and build them myself. > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > >> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will re-send >> using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you receive both. >> >> Happy New Year to everyone. >> I know there is no large need for anti-virus software when using Linux. >> However, to protect the people using Windows, when I forward email to them, >> I would like to be able to check my email when it comes in and/or when >> sending it. I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and prefer Thunderbird to read my email, >> but I can change to another. I have tried ClamAV but there is problems with >> it. Using KlamAV to maintain ClamAV it gets errors when trying to update >> the virus definitions. After Googling it I find this is a common situation >> with Ubuntu 8.10. I used Clamderib (maybe spelled wrong) to use ClamAV with >> Thunderbird but get errors when it tries to scan the email. I have tried >> Kmail and that seems to work but there are some features in Kmail I don't >> care for. I'll cover that in another email. So far I have broken Linux >> beyond my ability to repair it and so reinstalled it 3 times and still >> haven't found a way to scan my email. I have also tried some of the >> commercial Anti-Virus software like Avast and found they don't check email. >> >> My question is; Is there a better anti-virus program to use than ClamAV? If >> not can anyone give me any tips in installing it, other programs to install, >> or whatever that will assist me in getting this running. Right now I am in >> the process of installing Ubuntu again and so figured it would be a good >> time to ask for help. >> >> Have a Great Day >> Bob Jones >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From QCAdmin@gmail.com Sun Jan 4 18:48:24 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:48:24 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Anti-Virus Software for email In-Reply-To: <4961002E.4060903@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F822.1050802@RM-Jones.com> <4961002E.4060903@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: I always upload the file to test, then send it from my email client. Yes, both Word and PP can have hostile Macro's embedded into them. This is why office is so picky about enabling macros when you open certain files. For that, I default to my previous post about only forwarding things coming from a trusted source. Subsequently, I don't forward much. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > Thank You Chris, I just went up and looked at virustotal.com and it seems > that I could upload the file and then send it from there or send it there > and have it checked then send it from my email program. Which do you use. > > I believe that Power Point, Word, and other attachments as well as .exe > files can contain Windows virus'. Please correct me if that is wrong. I > get a few Power Point and Word files that I forward on. > > Thanks again > Bob Jones > > Chris Cooper wrote: >> >> The only time you would really need AV is if you were mailing exe's or >> forwarding things from someone else. I, personally, won't forward >> something not from someone I already trust, and any exe I download to >> send to someone I run through http://www.virustotal.com/ >> >> But yes, I too have had many problems getting ClamAV to work right >> under ubuntu8.10. Even Ubuntu 8.04 Server has a lot of issues. The >> only way I have managed to get it running on Server is to download the >> sources and build them myself. >> >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Robert Jones wrote: >> >>> >>> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will re-send >>> using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you receive both. >>> >>> Happy New Year to everyone. >>> I know there is no large need for anti-virus software when using Linux. >>> However, to protect the people using Windows, when I forward email to >>> them, >>> I would like to be able to check my email when it comes in and/or when >>> sending it. I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and prefer Thunderbird to read my >>> email, >>> but I can change to another. I have tried ClamAV but there is problems >>> with >>> it. Using KlamAV to maintain ClamAV it gets errors when trying to update >>> the virus definitions. After Googling it I find this is a common >>> situation >>> with Ubuntu 8.10. I used Clamderib (maybe spelled wrong) to use ClamAV >>> with >>> Thunderbird but get errors when it tries to scan the email. I have tried >>> Kmail and that seems to work but there are some features in Kmail I don't >>> care for. I'll cover that in another email. So far I have broken Linux >>> beyond my ability to repair it and so reinstalled it 3 times and still >>> haven't found a way to scan my email. I have also tried some of the >>> commercial Anti-Virus software like Avast and found they don't check >>> email. >>> >>> My question is; Is there a better anti-virus program to use than ClamAV? >>> If >>> not can anyone give me any tips in installing it, other programs to >>> install, >>> or whatever that will assist me in getting this running. Right now I am >>> in >>> the process of installing Ubuntu again and so figured it would be a good >>> time to ask for help. >>> >>> Have a Great Day >>> Bob Jones >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From mriedesel@gmail.com Wed Jan 7 18:24:07 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:24:07 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel of any sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ Mark On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will re-send > using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you receive both. > > This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for help with > anti-virus software. > I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine and like to > use the smilies. Since I am having problems with ClamAV and Firefox I tried > using Kmail. I like it fine except a couple of thing, the biggest of which > is I can't find a way to use smilies (except to remember all the code like > :-) to put them in). Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to > have smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has > smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? > > I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so I guess > it's time to ask for help. > > Thanks for the assistance. > Bob Jones > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/7c572693/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Wed Jan 7 22:13:23 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:13:23 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> Thanks Mark. That's one way to do it but I will probably be to lazy. What email program do you recommend? Follow up question is does it have a way to check for virus' to protect my Windows using friends and does it have emoticon's? Mark Riedesel wrote: > It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel of > any sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one > http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ > > Mark > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones > wrote: > > I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will > re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you > receive both. > > This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for > help with anti-virus software. > I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine > and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with > ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a > couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use > smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). > Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have > smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has > smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? > > I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so > I guess it's time to ask for help. > > Thanks for the assistance. > Bob Jones > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From mriedesel@gmail.com Wed Jan 7 22:26:08 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:26:08 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901071426p388610b4t624466981164a0c7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment gmail :) On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > Thanks Mark. That's one way to do it but I will probably be to lazy. > What email program do you recommend? Follow up question is does it have > a way to check for virus' to protect my Windows using friends and does > it have emoticon's? > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > >> It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel of any >> sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one >> http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones > Robert@rm-jones.com>> wrote: >> >> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will >> re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you >> receive both. >> >> This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for >> help with anti-virus software. >> I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine >> and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with >> ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a >> couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use >> smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). >> Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have >> smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has >> smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? >> >> I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so >> I guess it's time to ask for help. >> >> Thanks for the assistance. >> Bob Jones >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/5cc3c4f8/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Wed Jan 7 22:26:10 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:26:10 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I used mutt when in a terminal or Thunderbird in Xwindows. You Windows Friends should protect themselves: Also this is a good article on that note: You're Not Paranoid, Your Antivirus Just Doesn't Work Well - http://www.darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/01/dont_worry_your.html Emoticions are just text chars that certain programs replace with animated graphics. --DB On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > Thanks Mark. That's one way to do it but I will probably be to lazy. > What email program do you recommend? Follow up question is does it have > a way to check for virus' to protect my Windows using friends and does > it have emoticon's? > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > >> It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel of any >> sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one >> http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones > Robert@rm-jones.com>> wrote: >> >> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will >> re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you >> receive both. >> >> This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for >> help with anti-virus software. >> I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine >> and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with >> ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a >> couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use >> smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). >> Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have >> smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has >> smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? >> >> I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so >> I guess it's time to ask for help. >> >> Thanks for the assistance. >> Bob Jones >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/6cbf9a8a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From barry@vonahsen.com Wed Jan 7 22:32:06 2009 From: barry@vonahsen.com (Barry Von Ahsen) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:32:06 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49652D66.3080501@vonahsen.com> unless it comes from outlook, then it's J took me a while to figure out why coworkers would end sentences with just J, since I read text-only :) -barry Dave Bergert wrote: > I used mutt when in a terminal or Thunderbird in Xwindows. > > You Windows Friends should protect themselves: Also this is a good article > on that note: You're Not Paranoid, Your Antivirus Just Doesn't Work Well - > http://www.darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/01/dont_worry_your.html > > Emoticions are just text chars that certain programs replace with animated > graphics. > > --DB > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > >> Thanks Mark. That's one way to do it but I will probably be to lazy. >> What email program do you recommend? Follow up question is does it have >> a way to check for virus' to protect my Windows using friends and does >> it have emoticon's? >> >> Mark Riedesel wrote: >> >>> It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel of any >>> sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one >>> http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones >> Robert@rm-jones.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will >>> re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you >>> receive both. >>> >>> This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for >>> help with anti-virus software. >>> I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine >>> and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with >>> ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a >>> couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use >>> smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). >>> Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have >>> smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has >>> smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? >>> >>> I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so >>> I guess it's time to ask for help. >>> >>> Thanks for the assistance. >>> Bob Jones >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > From dbergert@gmail.com Wed Jan 7 23:56:02 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:56:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <49652D66.3080501@vonahsen.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> <49652D66.3080501@vonahsen.com> Message-ID: <44262bfc0901071556v547b1fc7i7eeba9381cb294c8@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I have to disagree- I just sent a few emails from outlook - plain text, rich text and html - and got: :) --DB On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Barry Von Ahsen wrote: > unless it comes from outlook, then it's > > J > > took me a while to figure out why coworkers would end sentences with just > J, since I read text-only :) > > -barry > > > > Dave Bergert wrote: > >> I used mutt when in a terminal or Thunderbird in Xwindows. >> >> You Windows Friends should protect themselves: Also this is a good article >> on that note: You're Not Paranoid, Your Antivirus Just Doesn't Work Well - >> http://www.darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/01/dont_worry_your.html >> >> Emoticions are just text chars that certain programs replace with animated >> graphics. >> >> --DB >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Robert Jones wrote: >> >> Thanks Mark. That's one way to do it but I will probably be to lazy. >>> What email program do you recommend? Follow up question is does it have >>> a way to check for virus' to protect my Windows using friends and does >>> it have emoticon's? >>> >>> Mark Riedesel wrote: >>> >>> It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel of any >>>> sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one >>>> http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones >>> >>> Robert@rm-jones.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will >>>> re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you >>>> receive both. >>>> >>>> This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for >>>> help with anti-virus software. >>>> I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine >>>> and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with >>>> ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a >>>> couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use >>>> smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). >>>> Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have >>>> smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has >>>> smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? >>>> >>>> I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so >>>> I guess it's time to ask for help. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the assistance. >>>> Bob Jones >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> QCLUG mailing list >>>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/ce6cdbe5/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Thu Jan 8 12:20:11 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 06:20:11 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: Robert: This may be an option to check attachments before sending: See http://lifehacker.com/367331/scan-attachments-before-downloading-with-virustotal On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > Thanks Mark. That's one way to do it but I will probably be to lazy. > What email program do you recommend? Follow up question is does it > have > a way to check for virus' to protect my Windows using friends and does > it have emoticon's? > > Mark Riedesel wrote: >> It doesn't appear as though KMail has an emoticon insertion panel >> of any sort. There's always emoticon cheat sheets like this one http://factoryjoe.com/projects/emoticons/ >> >> Mark >> >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Robert Jones > >> wrote: >> >> I mailed this earlier but used the wrong return address So will >> re-send using the correct one. Sorry about the duplication if you >> receive both. >> >> This question kind of ties in with my previous email asking for >> help with anti-virus software. >> I have been using Thunderbird to read my email. I like it fine >> and like to use the smilies. Since I am having problems with >> ClamAV and Firefox I tried using Kmail. I like it fine except a >> couple of thing, the biggest of which is I can't find a way to use >> smilies (except to remember all the code like :-) to put them in). >> Does anyone know how to install an add-on to Kmail to have >> smilies available? Or, does anyone know an email reader that has >> smilies and that an anti-virus program will work with? >> >> I have done a lot of Googling but can't seem to find an answer so >> I guess it's time to ask for help. >> >> Thanks for the assistance. >> Bob Jones >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug Dave Bergert dbergert@gmail.com From Robert@RM-Jones.com Thu Jan 8 13:13:05 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:13:05 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4965FBE1.7000000@RM-Jones.com> Thank You to everyone. It looks like the best thing to do is to try to keep myself clean and, like Dave says, my Windows friends should protect themselves. I found the article Dave pointed me to (below) to be very helpful, and scary :'( . Thanks to everyone. Bob Jones Dave Bergert wrote: > I used mutt when in a terminal or Thunderbird in Xwindows. > > You Windows Friends should protect themselves: Also this is a good > article on that note: You're Not Paranoid, Your Antivirus Just Doesn't > Work Well - > http://www.darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/01/dont_worry_your.html > > Emoticions are just text chars that certain programs replace with > animated graphics. > > --DB From Robert@RM-Jones.com Fri Jan 9 16:46:00 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:46:00 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Anti-Virus Software for email In-Reply-To: References: <4960F822.1050802@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <49677F48.6000802@RM-Jones.com> Thanks for the assistance and ideas. I figured out something that seems to work for me. I'm now using AVG anti-virus. I changed the menu link to include "sudo" in front of the call to avggui and this way I can get it to update when I want it to. When I have email that I want to forward I can simply run AVG, select the Thunderbird folder and check it. All in all it only takes a minute or two and I don't forward that often. Thanks again. Bob Jones Chris Cooper wrote: > The only time you would really need AV is if you were mailing exe's or > forwarding things from someone else. I, personally, won't forward > something not from someone I already trust, and any exe I download to > send to someone I run through http://www.virustotal.com/ > > But yes, I too have had many problems getting ClamAV to work right > under ubuntu8.10. Even Ubuntu 8.04 Server has a lot of issues. The > only way I have managed to get it running on Server is to download the > sources and build them myself. > > From Robert@RM-Jones.com Fri Jan 9 17:38:16 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:38:16 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is Tuesdays meeting? Message-ID: <49678B88.7030805@RM-Jones.com> Sorry to bother everyone but in switching my OS from one computer to another I lost the email that told where the next meeting is and how to get there. Would someone please provide me with the latest info. If it is in Illinois I will need some instructions on how to find it. If the weather is OK I plan on trying to be there. Thanks Bob Jones From mriedesel@gmail.com Fri Jan 9 17:59:47 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:59:47 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is Tuesdays meeting? In-Reply-To: <49678B88.7030805@RM-Jones.com> References: <49678B88.7030805@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901090959w51c9187au6bf8056ba260c75b@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment It sounded as though general consensus was to try out Augustana this month. Here's the email with directions: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/2009-January/005773.html Hopefully that's cool with everyone? Mark On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > Sorry to bother everyone but in switching my OS from one computer to > another I lost the email that told where the next meeting is and how to get > there. Would someone please provide me with the latest info. If it is in > Illinois I will need some instructions on how to find it. If the weather is > OK I plan on trying to be there. > Thanks > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/c6a5b259/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Fri Jan 9 19:38:07 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:38:07 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is Tuesdays meeting? In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901090959w51c9187au6bf8056ba260c75b@mail.gmail.com> References: <49678B88.7030805@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901090959w51c9187au6bf8056ba260c75b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4967A79F.4040105@RM-Jones.com> Sounds good to me. See you there. Bob Jones Mark Riedesel wrote: > It sounded as though general consensus was to try out Augustana this > month. Here's the email with directions: > http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/2009-January/005773.html > > Hopefully that's cool with everyone? > > Mark > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Robert Jones > wrote: > > Sorry to bother everyone but in switching my OS from one computer > to another I lost the email that told where the next meeting is > and how to get there. Would someone please provide me with the > latest info. If it is in Illinois I will need some instructions > on how to find it. If the weather is OK I plan on trying to be there. > Thanks > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 9 20:42:01 2009 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:42:01 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is Tuesdays Meeting? Message-ID: <4967B699.30303@sbcglobal.net> This works for me. Catch you lot there! From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sat Jan 10 14:21:20 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:21:20 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware Message-ID: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> I received a donation of hardware for the Le Claire Computer Users Group. They have had their chance to take what they wanted and didn't seem very interested. There are only 3 or four people that were experienced enough to know what most of the parts were. There are keyboards, cables, CPU heat sinks, case fans, did I mention SATA cables, power cables, lots of cables, mice and more. If anyone is interested in getting some of this stuff (FREE) let me know and I'll bring it to the meeting Tuesday. If no one is interested I'm not going to carry that big box :-) Have a great day Bob Jones From jmkris@gmail.com Sat Jan 10 15:54:02 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:54:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware In-Reply-To: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> References: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: I can use a SATA cable. Thanks Jim K On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > I received a donation of hardware for the Le Claire Computer Users Group. > They have had their chance to take what they wanted and didn't seem very > interested. There are only 3 or four people that were experienced enough to > know what most of the parts were. There are keyboards, cables, CPU heat > sinks, case fans, did I mention SATA cables, power cables, lots of cables, > mice and more. If anyone is interested in getting some of this stuff (FREE) > let me know and I'll bring it to the meeting Tuesday. If no one is > interested I'm not going to carry that big box :-) > > Have a great day > Bob Jones > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From mriedesel@gmail.com Sat Jan 10 15:56:32 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:56:32 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware In-Reply-To: References: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901100756x524660b9j71052cb7d622b200@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Spare case fans often come in handy, I'd like to peruse the box if bringing it isn't too much of a hassle :-) Mark On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Jim Kristan wrote: > I can use a SATA cable. > Thanks > Jim K > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > > I received a donation of hardware for the Le Claire Computer Users Group. > > They have had their chance to take what they wanted and didn't seem very > > interested. There are only 3 or four people that were experienced enough > to > > know what most of the parts were. There are keyboards, cables, CPU heat > > sinks, case fans, did I mention SATA cables, power cables, lots of > cables, > > mice and more. If anyone is interested in getting some of this stuff > (FREE) > > let me know and I'll bring it to the meeting Tuesday. If no one is > > interested I'm not going to carry that big box :-) > > > > Have a great day > > Bob Jones > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/6309a8ad/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sat Jan 10 16:33:09 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:33:09 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901100756x524660b9j71052cb7d622b200@mail.gmail.com> References: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901100756x524660b9j71052cb7d622b200@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4968CDC5.8010608@RM-Jones.com> If the roads are good I'll have it there. Bob Jones Mark Riedesel wrote: > Spare case fans often come in handy, I'd like to peruse the box if > bringing it isn't too much of a hassle :-) > > Mark From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Mon Jan 12 14:53:52 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:53:52 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Where is Tuesdays meeting? In-Reply-To: <4967A79F.4040105@RM-Jones.com> References: <49678B88.7030805@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901090959w51c9187au6bf8056ba260c75b@mail.gmail.com> <4967A79F.4040105@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0901120653sd99f41clc1f3050b362eaa57@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > Sounds good to me. See you there. > Bob Jones > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > >> It sounded as though general consensus was to try out Augustana this >> month. Here's the email with directions: >> http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/2009-January/005773.html >> >> Hopefully that's cool with everyone? >> >> Mark >> >> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Robert Jones > Robert@rm-jones.com>> wrote: >> >> Sorry to bother everyone but in switching my OS from one computer >> to another I lost the email that told where the next meeting is >> and how to get there. Would someone please provide me with the >> latest info. If it is in Illinois I will need some instructions >> on how to find it. If the weather is OK I plan on trying to be there. >> Thanks >> Bob Jones >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > Hopefully, the blizzard will be over by then and the streets are plowed. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/facf2f80/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From volunteer.jim@gmail.com Mon Jan 12 14:56:58 2009 From: volunteer.jim@gmail.com (Jim Hall) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:56:58 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware In-Reply-To: <4968CDC5.8010608@RM-Jones.com> References: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901100756x524660b9j71052cb7d622b200@mail.gmail.com> <4968CDC5.8010608@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <997c8c1b0901120656o44716233ne6e672d51a721848@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > If the roads are good I'll have it there. > Bob Jones > > Mark Riedesel wrote: > >> Spare case fans often come in handy, I'd like to peruse the box if >> bringing it isn't too much of a hassle :-) >> >> Mark >> > _______________________________________________ > I can use USB keyboards & mice. Weather permitting I'll be there. If not, I'll contact you later. If that's ok. Jim ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/17b83e58/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Mon Jan 12 19:03:07 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:03:07 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware In-Reply-To: <997c8c1b0901120656o44716233ne6e672d51a721848@mail.gmail.com> References: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901100756x524660b9j71052cb7d622b200@mail.gmail.com> <4968CDC5.8010608@RM-Jones.com> <997c8c1b0901120656o44716233ne6e672d51a721848@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <496B93EB.1010800@RM-Jones.com> I'm not sure but I think the keyboards and mice are all PS2. The way the weather looks I'm not sure I'll be able to make it. There is a lot of road between Le Claire and Moline. I'll see when it's about time. If I don't get there this time I'll hold them for the next month. Bob Jones Jim Hall wrote: > ...... > > I can use USB keyboards & mice. Weather permitting I'll be there. If > not, I'll contact you later. If that's ok. > > Jim From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Jan 12 19:11:11 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:11:11 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware In-Reply-To: <496B93EB.1010800@RM-Jones.com> References: <4968AEE0.30806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901100756x524660b9j71052cb7d622b200@mail.gmail.com> <4968CDC5.8010608@RM-Jones.com> <997c8c1b0901120656o44716233ne6e672d51a721848@mail.gmail.com> <496B93EB.1010800@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901121111g542d8eb6j9022bdcd3de6ad4f@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Weather reports don't indicate snow for tomorrow, it'll likely be cleaned up by then. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Robert Jones wrote: > I'm not sure but I think the keyboards and mice are all PS2. The way the > weather looks I'm not sure I'll be able to make it. There is a lot of road > between Le Claire and Moline. I'll see when it's about time. If I don't > get there this time I'll hold them for the next month. > Bob Jones > > Jim Hall wrote: > >> ...... >> >> I can use USB keyboards & mice. Weather permitting I'll be there. If not, >> I'll contact you later. If that's ok. >> >> Jim >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/8ad3778f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Tue Jan 13 18:56:06 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:56:06 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Getting smilies to work in Kmail or other email readers In-Reply-To: <4965FBE1.7000000@RM-Jones.com> References: <4960F89D.2090806@RM-Jones.com> <1c9537490901071024s157b8794wa52a752788bf1c23@mail.gmail.com> <49652903.8070003@RM-Jones.com> <44262bfc0901071426l505f9790kaa70d132933118e1@mail.gmail.com> <4965FBE1.7000000@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901131056m67f13932m58c3470289f39977@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment finally some truth I've been telling people this for so long yet they all think there protected cause they got norton and mcafee. but then i ask them to bill them for the reason they have become infected and i have to fix there computer. will someone please write a mass spreading destructive windows virus that infects the entire internet i will go get the pop corn. (its sad but true it takes events like this for people to wake up) honestly the operating system should have a layered structure of defense without needing extra software. Anyway back to fixing all these super protected computers. side note - from computers i fix the number one cause of failure windows = malware / viruses linux = hardware failures macosX = hardware failures On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > Thank You to everyone. It looks like the best thing to do is to try to > keep myself clean and, like Dave says, my Windows friends should protect > themselves. I found the article Dave pointed me to (below) to be very > helpful, and scary :'( . Thanks to everyone. > Bob Jones > > Dave Bergert wrote: > >> I used mutt when in a terminal or Thunderbird in Xwindows. >> >> You Windows Friends should protect themselves: Also this is a good article >> on that note: You're Not Paranoid, Your Antivirus Just Doesn't Work Well - >> http://www.darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/01/dont_worry_your.html >> >> Emoticions are just text chars that certain programs replace with animated >> graphics. >> >> --DB >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/70967f27/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 13 20:48:50 2009 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:48:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Tonight's meeting Message-ID: <496CFE32.2010305@sbcglobal.net> Well, it seems that the snow may be starting some time this evening, but no consensus on when. Just make sure you all bundle up, as the wind chills are quite bad outside! Randy From arronlorenz@gmail.com Tue Jan 13 20:54:20 2009 From: arronlorenz@gmail.com (Arron Lorenz) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:54:20 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <496CFE32.2010305@sbcglobal.net> References: <496CFE32.2010305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <30cf66b30901131254g7ecc2a60m9a2852f86e7c66da@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I won't be able to make it this week. I'm going to try and make it an every other month. This week I'll be at the Blue Grass Community Club's meeting, but next month I'll plan to attend the LUG. FYI: I made a post on twitter about the ext4 fs being included with ubuntu 9.04 http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2009/01/12/super-fast-ext4-filesystem-arrives-in-ubuntu-9-04 Regards, Arron On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:48 PM, agamotto wrote: > > Well, it seems that the snow may be starting some time this evening, > but no consensus on when. Just make sure you all bundle up, as the wind > chills are quite bad outside! > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > -- From: Arron James Lorenz Reel to Reel Drive In http://www.DavenportDriveIn.com 563-579-7046 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b80da9c6/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Tue Jan 13 22:07:59 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:07:59 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <496CFE32.2010305@sbcglobal.net> References: <496CFE32.2010305@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <496D10BF.8030908@RM-Jones.com> I thought it over and it's just to COLD out there for me (I hate the cold weather). I'll see you next month if it isn't COLD. Bob Jones agamotto wrote: > > Well, it seems that the snow may be starting some time this > evening, but no consensus on when. Just make sure you all bundle up, > as the wind chills are quite bad outside! > > Randy > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From bmike78@yahoo.com Tue Jan 20 03:06:24 2009 From: bmike78@yahoo.com (Michael Brennan) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:06:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [QCLUG] Moving to the QC Message-ID: <238021.26424.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey QCLUG'ers! My wife accepted a teaching position starting in the fall '09 at St. Ambrose University in Davenport, IA, which means that at some point, I will be moving to the Davenport area with her in search of a Linux Administrator position. Can anyone recommend any companies to work for in the area or perhaps work at one that's looking to hire in a couple months? I have 8+ years of Linux experience working at an ISP, datacenter and large medical facility. Anyone interested can email me for a copy of my resume. Thanks! Mike Brennan From t.shearouse@gmail.com Tue Jan 20 03:09:00 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:09:00 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Moving to the QC In-Reply-To: <238021.26424.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <238021.26424.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment It's worth applying at Deere. Good company to work for, the main data center is in Moline ... no idea what they're hiring for at the moment, though. Check johndeerecareers.com. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Michael Brennan wrote: > Hey QCLUG'ers! > > My wife accepted a teaching position starting in the fall '09 at St. > Ambrose University in Davenport, IA, which means that at some point, I will > be moving to the Davenport area with her in search of a Linux Administrator > position. > > Can anyone recommend any companies to work for in the area or perhaps work > at one that's looking to hire in a couple months? I have 8+ years of Linux > experience working at an ISP, datacenter and large medical facility. > > Anyone interested can email me for a copy of my resume. > > Thanks! > > Mike Brennan > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/f2085bb3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Tue Jan 20 14:11:42 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:11:42 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Moving to the QC In-Reply-To: References: <238021.26424.qm@web37903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44262bfc0901200611q4192967ej9fc70d69e900c01f@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment You can also check : http://www.qctimes.com/jobs On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > It's worth applying at Deere. Good company to work for, the main data > center is in Moline ... no idea what they're hiring for at the moment, > though. Check johndeerecareers.com. > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Michael Brennan wrote: > >> Hey QCLUG'ers! >> >> My wife accepted a teaching position starting in the fall '09 at St. >> Ambrose University in Davenport, IA, which means that at some point, I will >> be moving to the Davenport area with her in search of a Linux Administrator >> position. >> >> Can anyone recommend any companies to work for in the area or perhaps work >> at one that's looking to hire in a couple months? I have 8+ years of Linux >> experience working at an ISP, datacenter and large medical facility. >> >> Anyone interested can email me for a copy of my resume. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Mike Brennan >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/32b6fcba/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 20 22:22:42 2009 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto@sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:22:42 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] I have hardware for next month's meeting! Message-ID: <49764EB2.8030803@sbcglobal.net> I have been having something of a lucky streak lately! For the meeting next month, (Feb.) I will have the following available: 1 HP 15" f1503 LCD monitor that comes with speakers that plug into the back of the monitor. VGA connection, power brick for speakers included. I would like to sell this for $50. 1 HP Pavillion PS/2 keyboard with programmable 'special' keys, along with similar PS/2 mouse. These I am willing to give away, as I don't have any use for another mouse/keyboard combo. I may have some memory, depending on when my cousin manages to visit with some stuff that he says he doesn't need. Randy From agamotto@sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 20 22:25:20 2009 From: agamotto@sbcglobal.net (agamotto@sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:25:20 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Moving to the QC Message-ID: <49764F50.6090703@sbcglobal.net> You might also send your resume to a local wireless/filtering company - CIPAfilter. They are currently looking for sales staff, but with your skill set, it may be worth seeing what they could offer. Randy From hinkle@cipafilter.com Tue Jan 20 23:08:41 2009 From: hinkle@cipafilter.com (David Hinkle) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:08:41 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Moving to the QC References: <49764F50.6090703@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <41CAB934FDE0DA4392781E79BDF1894701C6A42A@cipapdc.cipafilter.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Yes, currently we're only looking for Sales. If you have an interest = in sales, maybe you'd like to be involved in selling a Linux based = product? Also, if you have a strong background in Linux it would be = worth while to send Anders a resume anyway, maybe he'll make an = exception for the right tech. Either way, you should stop in and meet = us some time. David -----Original Message----- From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org on behalf of agamotto@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tue 1/20/2009 4:25 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Moving to the QC =20 You might also send your resume to a local wireless/filtering company - CIPAfilter. They are currently looking for sales staff, but with your skill set, it may be worth seeing what they could offer. Randy _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/78e14ad3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Tue Jan 20 23:35:31 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:35:31 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Vista Wow Experience Message-ID: <65dc1580901201535q682b1baw1a400f3a21ac8bef@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Was helping my friend update his computer he had 512 MB ram and a 160GB hard drive. let me just say here that he was not having any Wow factor. So i had him order some more memory (4GB) and hard drive (500GB) and part of the deal was to get Ubuntu 8.10 installed on the 160 GB hard drive. lets just say that after i installed the memory vand drive vista would no longer boot off the main drive .... maybe to much hardware has changed or its a new feature .... (the computer was a 3 Ghz pentuim D) anyway i went about doing a full install of vista from his disks and after it was done after like 8 hours for updates and reboots and some apps installed he was ready to go. after the system came up i had this feeling that the OS felt like something i removed from most windows computers coming from dell gateway hp etc etc ( adware crapware buy this crap ... ) except it was integrated into vista everything i clicked on i was presented with upgrade windows and click here to buy windows software ..... um so this is windows adware addition um vista on many if not all the screens showing computer infomation had these nice lil features , yes this is home basic but ads inside my OS .... besides installing vista security products where also installed taking up extra time. After all that time had past i did say 8 hours but also an entire night for windows to install sp1 cough cough i ventured to install linux .... finally i could relax install and update so i did a standerd install of ubuntu 8.10 and all update and additional software installed (codecs etc) and i looked at the time an noticed like an hour and 30 mintues went by ...... after i brought my friends pc back to his house under linux i pluged in his epson all in one printer and noticed a pop-up in the right hand corner saying it was detected and automaticly configured for use ..... ( in windows vista it did require a driver / software download) so under linux a min after turning on his printer/scanner he was able to print and scan windows took alot longer about 10 mins and a reboot. ( this just shows if linux get more oem support and device drivers the kind of things we may see) during this exercise i also had to copy large amount of files of and hope he didnt get hit with the infamous vista copy bug, copying files in vista is dog slow. i had to let this run all night with the vista download (which probley downgraded his connectio to the network ) updates which the next day i re copied because windows didnt copy all the files yet gave me an error ... maybe sp1 fixed that .... so after all the updates i copied again. ( talk about a wow expience the only cool thing was if i was charging , god all the extra hours.) i think i finaly understood lately as what Wow means on windows. i have fixed many virus infested computers and with that new worm hitting 9 million+ boxes (windows boxes only apply but WHY THE F**K DOES all the reporting agency never say it only effects WINDOWS or WINDOWS VIRUS , nice worm too it infects from that was patched in october but also now attemps brute force dictonary based attack on admin accounts ( which normaly dont have passwords on most home pcs .. ) anyway it sickends me that these virus outbreaks are not labled WINDOWS Only Virus right in the head line in the article. The above worm is also cited to might be connected to becoming a botnet which might actually wake some people up i mean 9 million computers could do some interesting damage. Wow means Worms on Windows <<< ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/e2068c04/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From leif.theden@gmail.com Wed Jan 21 04:51:32 2009 From: leif.theden@gmail.com (Leif Theden) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:51:32 +0800 Subject: [QCLUG] Vista Wow Experience In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901201535q682b1baw1a400f3a21ac8bef@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901201535q682b1baw1a400f3a21ac8bef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9a65bf850901202051y535efd8ay4254b9f759de5ca8@mail.gmail.com> It seems like we are on the dawn of botnet becoming self-aware. anyway, bravo on the vista performance. my that os RIP. On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Noah Norris wrote: > Was helping my friend update his computer he had 512 MB ram and a 160GB hard > drive. let me just say here that he was not having any Wow factor. > > So i had him order some more memory (4GB) and hard drive (500GB) and part of > the deal was to get Ubuntu 8.10 installed on the 160 GB hard drive. > lets just say that after i installed the memory vand drive vista would no > longer boot off the main drive .... maybe to much hardware has changed or > its > a new feature .... (the computer was a 3 Ghz pentuim D) > > anyway i went about doing a full install of vista from his disks and after > it was done after like 8 hours for updates and reboots and > some apps installed he was ready to go. after the system came up i had this > feeling that the OS felt like something i removed from most windows > computers coming from dell gateway hp etc etc ( adware crapware buy this > crap ... ) except it was integrated into vista everything i clicked on > i was presented with upgrade windows and click here to buy windows software > ..... um so this is windows adware addition um vista on many if not > all the screens showing computer infomation had these nice lil features , > yes this is home basic but ads inside my OS .... besides installing vista > security products where also installed taking up extra time. > > After all that time had past i did say 8 hours but also an entire night for > windows to install sp1 cough cough i ventured to install linux .... > finally i could relax install and update so i did a standerd install of > ubuntu 8.10 and all update and additional software installed (codecs etc) > and i looked at the time an noticed like an hour and 30 mintues went by > ...... after i brought my friends pc back to his house under linux i pluged > in his epson all in one printer and noticed a pop-up in the right hand > corner saying it was detected and automaticly configured for use ..... ( in > windows vista it did require a driver / software download) so under linux a > min after turning on his printer/scanner he was able to print and scan > windows took alot longer about 10 mins and a reboot. ( this just shows if > linux get more oem support and device drivers the kind of things we may see) > > during this exercise i also had to copy large amount of files of and hope he > didnt get hit with the infamous vista copy bug, copying files in vista is > dog slow. > i had to let this run all night with the vista download (which probley > downgraded his connectio to the network ) updates which the next day i re > copied because windows > didnt copy all the files yet gave me an error ... maybe sp1 fixed that .... > so after all the updates i copied again. ( talk about a wow expience the > only cool thing was if > i was charging , god all the extra hours.) > > i think i finaly understood lately as what Wow means on windows. i have > fixed many virus infested computers and with that new worm hitting 9 > million+ boxes (windows boxes > only apply but WHY THE F**K DOES all the reporting agency never say it only > effects WINDOWS or WINDOWS VIRUS , nice worm too it infects from that was > patched > in october but also now attemps brute force dictonary based attack on admin > accounts ( which normaly dont have passwords on most home pcs .. ) anyway it > sickends me that > these virus outbreaks are not labled WINDOWS Only Virus right in the head > line in the article. The above worm is also cited to might be connected to > becoming a botnet > which might actually wake some people up i mean 9 million computers could do > some interesting damage. > > Wow means Worms on Windows <<< > > From preludelinux@gmail.com Wed Jan 21 05:16:21 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:16:21 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Vista Wow Experience In-Reply-To: <9a65bf850901202051y535efd8ay4254b9f759de5ca8@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901201535q682b1baw1a400f3a21ac8bef@mail.gmail.com> <9a65bf850901202051y535efd8ay4254b9f759de5ca8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901202116v7614a793m4bafa45f78abd345@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment scary just scary. I've just noticed most malware now goes all out to make your experience hell trying to remove it. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Leif Theden wrote: > It seems like we are on the dawn of botnet becoming self-aware. > > anyway, bravo on the vista performance. my that os RIP. > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Noah Norris > wrote: > > Was helping my friend update his computer he had 512 MB ram and a 160GB > hard > > drive. let me just say here that he was not having any Wow factor. > > > > So i had him order some more memory (4GB) and hard drive (500GB) and part > of > > the deal was to get Ubuntu 8.10 installed on the 160 GB hard drive. > > lets just say that after i installed the memory vand drive vista would no > > longer boot off the main drive .... maybe to much hardware has changed > or > > its > > a new feature .... (the computer was a 3 Ghz pentuim D) > > > > anyway i went about doing a full install of vista from his disks and > after > > it was done after like 8 hours for updates and reboots and > > some apps installed he was ready to go. after the system came up i had > this > > feeling that the OS felt like something i removed from most windows > > computers coming from dell gateway hp etc etc ( adware crapware buy this > > crap ... ) except it was integrated into vista everything i clicked on > > i was presented with upgrade windows and click here to buy windows > software > > ..... um so this is windows adware addition um vista on many if not > > all the screens showing computer infomation had these nice lil features , > > yes this is home basic but ads inside my OS .... besides installing vista > > security products where also installed taking up extra time. > > > > After all that time had past i did say 8 hours but also an entire night > for > > windows to install sp1 cough cough i ventured to install linux .... > > finally i could relax install and update so i did a standerd install of > > ubuntu 8.10 and all update and additional software installed (codecs etc) > > and i looked at the time an noticed like an hour and 30 mintues went by > > ...... after i brought my friends pc back to his house under linux i > pluged > > in his epson all in one printer and noticed a pop-up in the right hand > > corner saying it was detected and automaticly configured for use ..... ( > in > > windows vista it did require a driver / software download) so under linux > a > > min after turning on his printer/scanner he was able to print and scan > > windows took alot longer about 10 mins and a reboot. ( this just shows > if > > linux get more oem support and device drivers the kind of things we may > see) > > > > during this exercise i also had to copy large amount of files of and hope > he > > didnt get hit with the infamous vista copy bug, copying files in vista is > > dog slow. > > i had to let this run all night with the vista download (which probley > > downgraded his connectio to the network ) updates which the next day i re > > copied because windows > > didnt copy all the files yet gave me an error ... maybe sp1 fixed that > .... > > so after all the updates i copied again. ( talk about a wow expience the > > only cool thing was if > > i was charging , god all the extra hours.) > > > > i think i finaly understood lately as what Wow means on windows. i have > > fixed many virus infested computers and with that new worm hitting 9 > > million+ boxes (windows boxes > > only apply but WHY THE F**K DOES all the reporting agency never say it > only > > effects WINDOWS or WINDOWS VIRUS , nice worm too it infects from that > was > > patched > > in october but also now attemps brute force dictonary based attack on > admin > > accounts ( which normaly dont have passwords on most home pcs .. ) anyway > it > > sickends me that > > these virus outbreaks are not labled WINDOWS Only Virus right in the head > > line in the article. The above worm is also cited to might be connected > to > > becoming a botnet > > which might actually wake some people up i mean 9 million computers could > do > > some interesting damage. > > > > Wow means Worms on Windows <<< > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/79ab1cd7/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Wed Jan 21 22:59:14 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:59:14 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems Message-ID: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment anyone else noticed mediacom's internet having alot of problems the past week. anyone have details on whats going? believe there switching to new ip blocks and giving the 12. number back to ATT yet i still receive a 12. number. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > anyone else noticed mediacom's internet having alot of problems the past > week. anyone have details on whats going? > > believe there switching to new ip blocks and giving the 12. number back to > ATT yet i still receive a 12. number. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/cd63b5e1/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Wed Jan 21 23:45:17 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:17 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <44262bfc0901211523h1c9211cfva6da4194d691ab13@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0901211523h1c9211cfva6da4194d691ab13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901211545x4d6779b6g11ef29d07685d64d@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment ive noticed low speeds at a couple of people houses and very long dns but at home i run my own dns because i got tired of mediacoms slow dns a long time ago, but im getting sub-par speeds and so is alot of others ive atcual hit 300kbps down / 800 kbps up .... ( ya i know at that moment i actually had more up then down ... scary) it seems there whole network in rock island / moline is is becoming crappy On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > I've noticed slow speeds and some long DNS resolution times... > but no details. > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > >> anyone else noticed mediacom's internet having alot of problems the past >> week. anyone have details on whats going? >> >> believe there switching to new ip blocks and giving the 12. number back to >> ATT yet i still receive a 12. number. >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/7d587325/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Jan 22 21:40:15 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:40:15 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Main computer board died Message-ID: <65dc1580901221340t4ce246f8sfc37164f90582592@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment well its not even a year old and my asus p5n-d board has failed i noticed the power flicker on and then off , system failed to power on after this point. i begun looking at what might be the problem at first i thought it was a power supply tested with a know working unit with all hardware removed from board and different video cards and nothing all that happens is you get the first spin up when powers applied the board green light stays on then nothing. ( same with original ps too ) (power button was tested ) i have RMA'ed the asus board and waiting for response maybe some other issues i had with this board could be due to it being defective. ( i did find that it got pretty hot for not having a fan , i had added one to the mb chipset to help with its abnormal heat , side note my case has enough fans in it 7-80MM fans .... /sigh ) well all parts i have are all under warranty , its sad that the board died before a year was up and i have read high reviews about Asus 's Motherboards ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/c57d8663/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From adk@52761.com Fri Jan 23 02:40:43 2009 From: adk@52761.com (Allen Kiddoo) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:40:43 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Main computer board died In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901221340t4ce246f8sfc37164f90582592@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901221340t4ce246f8sfc37164f90582592@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <678823f00901221840q505538b6uf2fe9921e8f83294@mail.gmail.com> R. I. P. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > well its not even a year old and my asus p5n-d board has failed > > i noticed the power flicker on and then off , system failed to power on > after this point. i begun looking at what > might be the problem at first i thought it was a power supply tested with a > know working unit with all hardware > removed from board and different video cards and nothing all that happens is > you get the first spin up when powers > applied the board green light stays on then nothing. ( same with original ps > too ) (power button was tested ) > > i have RMA'ed the asus board and waiting for response maybe some other > issues i had with this board could be due > to it being defective. ( i did find that it got pretty hot for not having a > fan , i had added one to the mb chipset to help with > its abnormal heat , side note my case has enough fans in it 7-80MM fans > .... /sigh ) > > well all parts i have are all under warranty , its sad that the board died > before a year was up and i have read high reviews > about Asus 's Motherboards > > > > From jmkris@gmail.com Fri Jan 23 03:12:46 2009 From: jmkris@gmail.com (Jim Kristan) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:12:46 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Main computer board died In-Reply-To: <678823f00901221840q505538b6uf2fe9921e8f83294@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901221340t4ce246f8sfc37164f90582592@mail.gmail.com> <678823f00901221840q505538b6uf2fe9921e8f83294@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've had failures with Abit (just announced they are out of the motherboard business) and PC chips mobos but never had a problem with Asus, guess you're just lucky Noah. Did you notice any bulging capacitor cans? Jim K On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Allen Kiddoo wrote: > R. I. P. > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Noah Norris wrote: >> well its not even a year old and my asus p5n-d board has failed >> >> i noticed the power flicker on and then off , system failed to power on >> after this point. i begun looking at what >> might be the problem at first i thought it was a power supply tested with a >> know working unit with all hardware >> removed from board and different video cards and nothing all that happens is >> you get the first spin up when powers >> applied the board green light stays on then nothing. ( same with original ps >> too ) (power button was tested ) >> >> i have RMA'ed the asus board and waiting for response maybe some other >> issues i had with this board could be due >> to it being defective. ( i did find that it got pretty hot for not having a >> fan , i had added one to the mb chipset to help with >> its abnormal heat , side note my case has enough fans in it 7-80MM fans >> .... /sigh ) >> >> well all parts i have are all under warranty , its sad that the board died >> before a year was up and i have read high reviews >> about Asus 's Motherboards >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From t.shearouse@gmail.com Fri Jan 23 03:59:03 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:59:03 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Main computer board died In-Reply-To: References: <65dc1580901221340t4ce246f8sfc37164f90582592@mail.gmail.com> <678823f00901221840q505538b6uf2fe9921e8f83294@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On the topic of failing motherboards, never buy anything made by Soyo. I had 3 of them die in two different builds. One was DOA and replaced under warranty; the other two died after approximately a year each of service. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > I've had failures with Abit (just announced they are out of the > motherboard business) and PC chips mobos but never had a problem with > Asus, guess you're just lucky Noah. Did you notice any bulging > capacitor cans? > Jim K > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Allen Kiddoo wrote: > > R. I. P. > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Noah Norris > wrote: > >> well its not even a year old and my asus p5n-d board has failed > >> > >> i noticed the power flicker on and then off , system failed to power on > >> after this point. i begun looking at what > >> might be the problem at first i thought it was a power supply tested > with a > >> know working unit with all hardware > >> removed from board and different video cards and nothing all that > happens is > >> you get the first spin up when powers > >> applied the board green light stays on then nothing. ( same with > original ps > >> too ) (power button was tested ) > >> > >> i have RMA'ed the asus board and waiting for response maybe some other > >> issues i had with this board could be due > >> to it being defective. ( i did find that it got pretty hot for not > having a > >> fan , i had added one to the mb chipset to help with > >> its abnormal heat , side note my case has enough fans in it 7-80MM > fans > >> .... /sigh ) > >> > >> well all parts i have are all under warranty , its sad that the board > died > >> before a year was up and i have read high reviews > >> about Asus 's Motherboards > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/1203c22c/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Fri Jan 23 05:22:04 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:22:04 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Main computer board died In-Reply-To: References: <65dc1580901221340t4ce246f8sfc37164f90582592@mail.gmail.com> <678823f00901221840q505538b6uf2fe9921e8f83294@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901222122j59e68effr65cc5b877cbc85ad@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment damn thats alot of bad luck .. Nope the boards made with japan solid based caps they have had the board since monday i think its gona be a long month they say they have a 10 day turn around so like 2 weeks excluding holidays and weekends so i should hear something by next week. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > On the topic of failing motherboards, never buy anything made by Soyo. I > had 3 of them die in two different builds. One was DOA and replaced under > warranty; the other two died after approximately a year each of service. > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jim Kristan wrote: > >> I've had failures with Abit (just announced they are out of the >> motherboard business) and PC chips mobos but never had a problem with >> Asus, guess you're just lucky Noah. Did you notice any bulging >> capacitor cans? >> Jim K >> >> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Allen Kiddoo wrote: >> > R. I. P. >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Noah Norris >> wrote: >> >> well its not even a year old and my asus p5n-d board has failed >> >> >> >> i noticed the power flicker on and then off , system failed to power on >> >> after this point. i begun looking at what >> >> might be the problem at first i thought it was a power supply tested >> with a >> >> know working unit with all hardware >> >> removed from board and different video cards and nothing all that >> happens is >> >> you get the first spin up when powers >> >> applied the board green light stays on then nothing. ( same with >> original ps >> >> too ) (power button was tested ) >> >> >> >> i have RMA'ed the asus board and waiting for response maybe some other >> >> issues i had with this board could be due >> >> to it being defective. ( i did find that it got pretty hot for not >> having a >> >> fan , i had added one to the mb chipset to help with >> >> its abnormal heat , side note my case has enough fans in it 7-80MM >> fans >> >> .... /sigh ) >> >> >> >> well all parts i have are all under warranty , its sad that the board >> died >> >> before a year was up and i have read high reviews >> >> about Asus 's Motherboards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > QCLUG mailing list >> > QCLUG@qclug.org >> > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/e339f306/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Sat Jan 24 00:38:02 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:38:02 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901211545x4d6779b6g11ef29d07685d64d@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <44262bfc0901211523h1c9211cfva6da4194d691ab13@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901211545x4d6779b6g11ef29d07685d64d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901231638i5016dc08m1ad47eccfb5d95c3@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Unofficial murmurs indicate it has something to do with node over-saturation, surprise surprise On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > ive noticed low speeds at a couple of people houses and very long dns but > at home i run my own dns because i got tired of mediacoms slow dns a long > time ago, > but im getting sub-par speeds and so is alot of others ive atcual hit > 300kbps down / 800 kbps up .... ( ya i know at that moment i actually had > more up then down ... scary) > > it seems there whole network in rock island / moline is is becoming crappy > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > >> I've noticed slow speeds and some long DNS resolution times... >> but no details. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Noah Norris wrote: >> >>> anyone else noticed mediacom's internet having alot of problems the past >>> week. anyone have details on whats going? >>> >>> believe there switching to new ip blocks and giving the 12. number back >>> to ATT yet i still receive a 12. number. >>> >> >> > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The qclug server will be down from around 9am till hopefully no later than 12pm tomorrow. rk From dmichael.burns@gmail.com Sat Jan 24 05:00:44 2009 From: dmichael.burns@gmail.com (DMichael Burns) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:00:44 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I too have noticed slower speeds/longer page loads (though I have not actually done a speed test). As for the IP block changeover - a couple months ago, I noticed that I was issued a 173.x.x.x IP address instead of the 12.x.x.x that I was previously provisioned. So, this is something that has been in the works for at least that long here in Dubuque. Michael On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > anyone else noticed mediacom's internet having alot of problems the past > week. anyone have details on whats going? > > believe there switching to new ip blocks and giving the 12. number back to > ATT yet i still receive a 12. number. > -- "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them is still in its infancy." --Bill Cosby, American Comedian ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/50db92a2/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sat Jan 24 08:39:37 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:39:37 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and seems to stay pretty consistent 1200k ~ 1500k actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after being reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ it looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M which is there basic service and lower On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, DMichael Burns wrote: > I too have noticed slower speeds/longer page loads (though I have not > actually done a speed test). > > As for the IP block changeover - a couple months ago, I noticed that I was > issued a 173.x.x.x IP address instead of the 12.x.x.x that I was previously > provisioned. So, this is something that has been in the works for at least > that long here in Dubuque. > > Michael > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > >> anyone else noticed mediacom's internet having alot of problems the past >> week. anyone have details on whats going? >> >> believe there switching to new ip blocks and giving the 12. number back to >> ATT yet i still receive a 12. number. >> > > > > -- > "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them > is still in its infancy." > --Bill Cosby, American Comedian > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/98386021/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Sat Jan 24 13:02:46 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:02:46 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 kbps and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at 7588 / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm using Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to take 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have a RCA modem from them. Bob Jones Noah Norris wrote: > Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . > at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys > > my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps > its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and > seems to stay pretty consistent > 1200k ~ 1500k > > actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after > being reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping > times ~ it looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my > service hits 3M which is there basic service and lower From dmichael.burns@gmail.com Sat Jan 24 14:15:46 2009 From: dmichael.burns@gmail.com (DMichael Burns) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:15:46 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment In June, Mediacom replaced my Motorola Surfboard with an RCA - claiming that it was better. While I have not seen anything better about it, I have noticed that the web based modem info is not as user friendly as what I grew accustomed to with the Surfboard. For those wanting to see the info on their modem, go to url http://192.168.100.1 from any of the computers in your LAN. I just surfed over to http://speedtest.net and performed three tests here are my results: Dubuque to Germantown, WI - down:6267kbs up:851kbs - http://www.speedtest.net/result/396764512.png Dubuque to Phoenix, AZ - down:6391kbs up:880kbs - http://www.speedtest.net/result/396765452.png Dubuque to Ft. Lauderdale, FL - down:6772kbs up:835kbs - http://www.speedtest.net/result/396766211.png Average: 6476kbs down / 855kbs up Should be: 8000kbs down / 512kbs up The results are not too bad considering what they could be. On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 kbps > and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at 7588 > / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm using > Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to take > 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my > modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They > told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have > a RCA modem from them. > Bob Jones > > Noah Norris wrote: > >> Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . >> at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys >> >> my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps >> its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and seems >> to stay pretty consistent >> 1200k ~ 1500k >> >> actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after being >> reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ it >> looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M which >> is there basic service and lower >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > -- "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them is still in its infancy." --Bill Cosby, American Comedian ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/d7ac6b2e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com Sun Jan 25 21:29:50 2009 From: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com (Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:29:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Server outage 1/24/2009 (9am - Noon) In-Reply-To: <200901231934.07977.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> References: <200901231934.07977.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Message-ID: <200901251529.50489.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Oops, got busy and forgot to post here letting everyone know that qclug is back online. sorry about that, rk On Friday 23 January 2009, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > Hey gang. > > Sorry I am not able to give more advanced notice on this outage. > > The qclug server will be down from around 9am till hopefully no later than > 12pm tomorrow. > > rk > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug From mriedesel@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 21:38:50 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:38:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Server outage 1/24/2009 (9am - Noon) In-Reply-To: <200901251529.50489.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> References: <200901231934.07977.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> <200901251529.50489.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901251338y50e91096x55ff80107a56bec7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Thank ye sir On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune < roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> wrote: > Oops, got busy and forgot to post here letting everyone know that qclug is > back online. > > sorry about that, > rk > > > On Friday 23 January 2009, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune wrote: > > Hey gang. > > > > Sorry I am not able to give more advanced notice on this outage. > > > > The qclug server will be down from around 9am till hopefully no later > than > > 12pm tomorrow. > > > > rk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > QCLUG mailing list > > QCLUG@qclug.org > > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/0debe731/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 22:36:27 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:36:27 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Whats going on with Microsoft Message-ID: <65dc1580901251436x73ca49alefa0a555e7bd889@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment It seems lately there scared of this recession thing they got rid of 1500 jobs and 3000 more to come. they shutdown there zune platform (like we needed another ipod clone) cause of 100+ million loss. ( im sure alot more in RnD) oddly they got rid of ms flight simulator X team. ( from what i gathered this was actualy something usefull ) the ready for vista suit could cost billions. X-box division is costing billions to forcefully enter the consol market. vista costing billions for 5 years of nothing (Rnd was spending this money how .... this is expensive and forced them to retool a service pack ... windows 7 which could up being the same thing) office 2007 forced many gui changes that people actually refused to want to relearn ms biggest competiter is themselvs (older versions of there software) maybe this is so they can give away more windows xp copies on netbooks to hinder linux adoption (surprising there discounting sprees have not raised another anti-trust hearing) In times when people have to start thinking about costs and long-term cost will linux growth start tripeling (moores law applied to software ?) and will this be taking ms main line of income. linux seems to taking the whole eco system of everything except the pc at the moment by storm from consumer level devices to cell phones ( it would be nice if all these devices had to have some type of advertising attached to it like "linux inside" so people start associating linux with different things. websites that run on linux should do the same. the things linux is on and not anyone knows should be clearly marked. ( hey even google.comshoud have "RUNS ON LINUX" posted somewhere on there clean main page) I bring these up cause most people have some type of linux device and will never know ... Ive noticed alot of trends of people mentioning a swith over to linux and MS offering big discounts. ( yes they have tons of money but it cant do this forever) ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/139d123e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 22:42:13 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:42:13 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Whats going on with Microsoft In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251436x73ca49alefa0a555e7bd889@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901251436x73ca49alefa0a555e7bd889@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Just the other day I was talking to someone who had "always wanted to try Linux, but it won't run on Vista." There definitely needs to be more education on how computers work, the role of the operating system, and what exactly Linux is. People might be ready to abandon MS, but I don't think they know how (other than buying Apple products ... but I won't go there). On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > It seems lately there scared of this recession thing > > they got rid of 1500 jobs and 3000 more to come. > they shutdown there zune platform (like we needed another ipod clone) cause > of 100+ million loss. ( im sure alot more in RnD) > oddly they got rid of ms flight simulator X team. ( from what i gathered > this was actualy something usefull ) > the ready for vista suit could cost billions. > X-box division is costing billions to forcefully enter the consol market. > vista costing billions for 5 years of nothing (Rnd was spending this money > how .... this is expensive and forced them to retool a service pack ... > windows 7 which could up being the same thing) > office 2007 forced many gui changes that people actually refused to want > to relearn > ms biggest competiter is themselvs (older versions of there software) > > maybe this is so they can give away more windows xp copies on netbooks to > hinder linux adoption (surprising there discounting sprees have not raised > another anti-trust hearing) > > In times when people have to start thinking about costs and long-term cost > will linux growth start tripeling (moores law applied to software ?) and > will this be taking ms main line of income. > linux seems to taking the whole eco system of everything except the pc at > the moment by storm from consumer level devices to cell phones ( it would be > nice if all these devices had to have some type of advertising attached to > it like "linux inside" so people start associating linux with different > things. websites that run on linux should do the same. the things linux is > on and not anyone knows should be clearly marked. ( hey even google.comshoud have "RUNS ON LINUX" posted somewhere on there clean main page) I > bring these up cause most people have some type of linux device and will > never know ... > > Ive noticed alot of trends of people mentioning a swith over to linux and > MS offering big discounts. ( yes they have tons of money but it cant do this > forever) > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/7b19bb20/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 22:46:48 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:46:48 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment hmm you up speed is actually better then what they say which is good but all the cable connections i have tested have it capped at 512K on there 8 mb service crap it looks like im only getting 1mb down and 1 mb up today ....... well im gona get some free internet on my bill this month mediacom high speed =for 8 mb / 512k service you have to get 4mb service up speed limits to 512k mediacom high speed man =for there 20 mb / 2mb service you have to get 14mb service at least 1 mb up speed mediacom intro or basic = and for there 3mb /512or256k service 2~1.5mb service whats up speed .. lol gona reset modem brb with test results On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:15 AM, DMichael Burns wrote: > In June, Mediacom replaced my Motorola Surfboard with an RCA - claiming > that it was better. While I have not seen anything better about it, I have > noticed that the web based modem info is not as user friendly as what I grew > accustomed to with the Surfboard. For those wanting to see the info on > their modem, go to url http://192.168.100.1 from any of the computers in > your LAN. > > I just surfed over to http://speedtest.net and performed three tests here > are my results: > > Dubuque to Germantown, WI - down:6267kbs up:851kbs - > http://www.speedtest.net/result/396764512.png > Dubuque to Phoenix, AZ - down:6391kbs up:880kbs - > http://www.speedtest.net/result/396765452.png > Dubuque to Ft. Lauderdale, FL - down:6772kbs up:835kbs - > http://www.speedtest.net/result/396766211.png > > Average: 6476kbs down / 855kbs up > Should be: 8000kbs down / 512kbs up > > The results are not too bad considering what they could be. > > > > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > >> Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 kbps >> and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at 7588 >> / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm using >> Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to take >> 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my >> modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They >> told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have >> a RCA modem from them. >> Bob Jones >> >> Noah Norris wrote: >> >>> Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . >>> at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys >>> >>> my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps >>> its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and seems >>> to stay pretty consistent >>> 1200k ~ 1500k >>> >>> actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after being >>> reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ it >>> looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M which >>> is there basic service and lower >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > > > -- > "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them > is still in its infancy." > --Bill Cosby, American Comedian > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/deea70ae/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From QCAdmin@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 22:59:33 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:59:33 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Noah, where are you at in the quad cities, and are you running through another NAT router (ie Linksys WRT54G or something similar)? On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > hmm you up speed is actually better then what they say which is good but all > the cable connections i have tested have it capped at 512K on there 8 mb > service > crap it looks like im only getting 1mb down and 1 mb up today ....... well > im gona get some free internet on my bill this month > > mediacom high speed =for 8 mb / 512k service you have to get 4mb service up > speed limits to 512k > mediacom high speed man =for there 20 mb / 2mb service you have to get 14mb > service at least 1 mb up speed > mediacom intro or basic = and for there 3mb /512or256k service 2~1.5mb > service whats up speed .. lol > > gona reset modem brb with test results > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:15 AM, DMichael Burns > wrote: >> >> In June, Mediacom replaced my Motorola Surfboard with an RCA - claiming >> that it was better. While I have not seen anything better about it, I have >> noticed that the web based modem info is not as user friendly as what I grew >> accustomed to with the Surfboard. For those wanting to see the info on >> their modem, go to url http://192.168.100.1 from any of the computers in >> your LAN. >> >> I just surfed over to http://speedtest.net and performed three tests here >> are my results: >> >> Dubuque to Germantown, WI - down:6267kbs up:851kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396764512.png >> Dubuque to Phoenix, AZ - down:6391kbs up:880kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396765452.png >> Dubuque to Ft. Lauderdale, FL - down:6772kbs up:835kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396766211.png >> Average: 6476kbs down / 855kbs up >> Should be: 8000kbs down / 512kbs up >> >> The results are not too bad considering what they could be. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Robert Jones wrote: >>> >>> Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 kbps >>> and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at 7588 >>> / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm using >>> Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to take >>> 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my >>> modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They >>> told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have >>> a RCA modem from them. >>> Bob Jones >>> >>> Noah Norris wrote: >>>> >>>> Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . >>>> at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys >>>> >>>> my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps >>>> its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and >>>> seems to stay pretty consistent >>>> 1200k ~ 1500k >>>> >>>> actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after being >>>> reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ it >>>> looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M which >>>> is there basic service and lower >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> >> -- >> "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them >> is still in its infancy." >> --Bill Cosby, American Comedian > > From mriedesel@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 23:02:23 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:02:23 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901251502u6c5bac7fh60f7071aa59b4675@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Like I said before, it's likely due to node saturation (which is a known issue in your area -- or so I've heard). Until they start investing in infrastructure or they start losing customers in your area, speeds are likely to stay crappy. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > hmm you up speed is actually better then what they say which is good but > all the cable connections i have tested have it capped at 512K on there 8 mb > service > crap it looks like im only getting 1mb down and 1 mb up today ....... well > im gona get some free internet on my bill this month > > mediacom high speed =for 8 mb / 512k service you have to get 4mb service up > speed limits to 512k > mediacom high speed man =for there 20 mb / 2mb service you have to get 14mb > service at least 1 mb up speed > mediacom intro or basic = and for there 3mb /512or256k service 2~1.5mb > service whats up speed .. lol > > gona reset modem brb with test results > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:15 AM, DMichael Burns wrote: > >> In June, Mediacom replaced my Motorola Surfboard with an RCA - claiming >> that it was better. While I have not seen anything better about it, I have >> noticed that the web based modem info is not as user friendly as what I grew >> accustomed to with the Surfboard. For those wanting to see the info on >> their modem, go to url http://192.168.100.1 from any of the computers in >> your LAN. >> >> I just surfed over to http://speedtest.net and performed three tests here >> are my results: >> >> Dubuque to Germantown, WI - down:6267kbs up:851kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396764512.png >> Dubuque to Phoenix, AZ - down:6391kbs up:880kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396765452.png >> Dubuque to Ft. Lauderdale, FL - down:6772kbs up:835kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396766211.png >> >> Average: 6476kbs down / 855kbs up >> Should be: 8000kbs down / 512kbs up >> >> The results are not too bad considering what they could be. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Robert Jones wrote: >> >>> Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 kbps >>> and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at 7588 >>> / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm using >>> Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to take >>> 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my >>> modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They >>> told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have >>> a RCA modem from them. >>> Bob Jones >>> >>> Noah Norris wrote: >>> >>>> Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . >>>> at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys >>>> >>>> my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps >>>> its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and >>>> seems to stay pretty consistent >>>> 1200k ~ 1500k >>>> >>>> actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after being >>>> reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ it >>>> looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M which >>>> is there basic service and lower >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them >> is still in its infancy." >> --Bill Cosby, American Comedian >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/2d5a63d3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 23:07:26 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:07:26 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901251507s67988038m4fd6f4a54130b8a7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment oh crap i hit 9 mb ... then it went back down to 3 got a tech coming out tomorow and will get modem replaced feels like its a sync / range problem was working fine. ( like the modem only woking at lowest speed) for example phoinix az down i got 1mb and 1.5m b up ...... http://www.speedtest.net/result/397687342.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/397688249.png an another words my speed kills .... sometimes i get locked into sub 300k and i get 1-3k downloads from servers ....... and my speedtest takes 15 mins ..... lol so im getting there lowest service On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > hmm you up speed is actually better then what they say which is good but > all the cable connections i have tested have it capped at 512K on there 8 mb > service > crap it looks like im only getting 1mb down and 1 mb up today ....... well > im gona get some free internet on my bill this month > > mediacom high speed =for 8 mb / 512k service you have to get 4mb service up > speed limits to 512k > mediacom high speed man =for there 20 mb / 2mb service you have to get 14mb > service at least 1 mb up speed > mediacom intro or basic = and for there 3mb /512or256k service 2~1.5mb > service whats up speed .. lol > > gona reset modem brb with test results > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:15 AM, DMichael Burns wrote: > >> In June, Mediacom replaced my Motorola Surfboard with an RCA - claiming >> that it was better. While I have not seen anything better about it, I have >> noticed that the web based modem info is not as user friendly as what I grew >> accustomed to with the Surfboard. For those wanting to see the info on >> their modem, go to url http://192.168.100.1 from any of the computers in >> your LAN. >> >> I just surfed over to http://speedtest.net and performed three tests here >> are my results: >> >> Dubuque to Germantown, WI - down:6267kbs up:851kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396764512.png >> Dubuque to Phoenix, AZ - down:6391kbs up:880kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396765452.png >> Dubuque to Ft. Lauderdale, FL - down:6772kbs up:835kbs - >> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396766211.png >> >> Average: 6476kbs down / 855kbs up >> Should be: 8000kbs down / 512kbs up >> >> The results are not too bad considering what they could be. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Robert Jones wrote: >> >>> Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 kbps >>> and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at 7588 >>> / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm using >>> Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to take >>> 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my >>> modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They >>> told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have >>> a RCA modem from them. >>> Bob Jones >>> >>> Noah Norris wrote: >>> >>>> Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . >>>> at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys >>>> >>>> my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps >>>> its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and >>>> seems to stay pretty consistent >>>> 1200k ~ 1500k >>>> >>>> actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after being >>>> reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ it >>>> looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M which >>>> is there basic service and lower >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them >> is still in its infancy." >> --Bill Cosby, American Comedian >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/62199346/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 23:21:29 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:21:29 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] mediacom problems In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251507s67988038m4fd6f4a54130b8a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <65dc1580901211459h7e40fca5r3150a6462b260708@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901240039g380bbc24n68799f77df59dab8@mail.gmail.com> <497B1176.2040408@RM-Jones.com> <65dc1580901251446j449225f4g87b78fe5a805a045@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901251507s67988038m4fd6f4a54130b8a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901251521m3b8a9b35tfe89676b25eba3ea@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment i run through my home built linux based router which im upgrading to a p4 soon currently its a p3 900 and i think 256 or 512 mb ram even hooking directly to the modem gets the same results usually linux running on a pc to do routing / nat does not suffer like the home based router units that have very li ram speaking of which i think i will get started on that today so besides routing / nat it also does dns look-ups to avoide mediacoms slow dns ... lol dhcp and firewall ( using shorewall ) ive been noticing when modem go bad they start to get really bad ping times ive hit in the 300 if its sateration then they cant provide the service i pay for so i complain and will not pay lol my friends modems went bad and his just did the same thing except his would connect at like 3k tops .... replaced his modem and now hes getting his 7.8mb down and 512k up On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > oh crap i hit 9 mb ... then it went back down to 3 got a tech coming out > tomorow and will get modem replaced > feels like its a sync / range problem was working fine. ( like the modem > only woking at lowest speed) for example phoinix az down i got 1mb and 1.5m > b up ...... > http://www.speedtest.net/result/397687342.png > http://www.speedtest.net/result/397688249.png > > an another words my speed kills .... sometimes i get locked into sub 300k > and i get 1-3k downloads from servers ....... and my speedtest takes 15 mins > ..... lol > so im getting there lowest service > > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > >> hmm you up speed is actually better then what they say which is good but >> all the cable connections i have tested have it capped at 512K on there 8 mb >> service >> crap it looks like im only getting 1mb down and 1 mb up today ....... well >> im gona get some free internet on my bill this month >> >> mediacom high speed =for 8 mb / 512k service you have to get 4mb service >> up speed limits to 512k >> mediacom high speed man =for there 20 mb / 2mb service you have to get >> 14mb service at least 1 mb up speed >> mediacom intro or basic = and for there 3mb /512or256k service 2~1.5mb >> service whats up speed .. lol >> >> gona reset modem brb with test results >> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:15 AM, DMichael Burns > > wrote: >> >>> In June, Mediacom replaced my Motorola Surfboard with an RCA - claiming >>> that it was better. While I have not seen anything better about it, I have >>> noticed that the web based modem info is not as user friendly as what I grew >>> accustomed to with the Surfboard. For those wanting to see the info on >>> their modem, go to url http://192.168.100.1 from any of the computers in >>> your LAN. >>> >>> I just surfed over to http://speedtest.net and performed three tests >>> here are my results: >>> >>> Dubuque to Germantown, WI - down:6267kbs up:851kbs - >>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396764512.png >>> Dubuque to Phoenix, AZ - down:6391kbs up:880kbs - >>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396765452.png >>> Dubuque to Ft. Lauderdale, FL - down:6772kbs up:835kbs - >>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/396766211.png >>> >>> Average: 6476kbs down / 855kbs up >>> Should be: 8000kbs down / 512kbs up >>> >>> The results are not too bad considering what they could be. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Robert Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Here in Le Claire I'm on 12X.X.X.X and have a download speed of 7618 >>>> kbps and up of 485 kbps to Chicago. To San Diego, CA is a little slower at >>>> 7588 / 325 kbps. I had a problem just like this a few months back. I'm >>>> using Media Com. Their tech support wasn't able to help and it was going to >>>> take 2 or 3 weeks to get a tech person here so I went down and exchanged my >>>> modem. That solved the problem and I haven't had a problem since. They >>>> told me that one type of the modems they supply have a problem. I now have >>>> a RCA modem from them. >>>> Bob Jones >>>> >>>> Noah Norris wrote: >>>> >>>>> Quad city area i believe is still on 12.x.x.x . >>>>> at least everyone i know that has cable still has the old ATT ip addys >>>>> >>>>> my speed has been all over the map from 300kbps to 18000kbps >>>>> its funny at times my up speed has been higher then my down ... and >>>>> seems to stay pretty consistent >>>>> 1200k ~ 1500k >>>>> >>>>> actually im thinking the modem is going bad it seems to work after >>>>> being reset but after awhile locks in @3000k - 5000k and slower ping times ~ >>>>> it looks like it goes up and hits a wall ~ what sad is my service hits 3M >>>>> which is there basic service and lower >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> QCLUG mailing list >>>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Men and women belong to different species and communications between >>> them is still in its infancy." >>> --Bill Cosby, American Comedian >>> >> >> > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/67c2403a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mike.a.nelson@digitalservitude.com Sun Jan 25 23:38:41 2009 From: mike.a.nelson@digitalservitude.com (Michael Nelson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:38:41 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment is it just me or is this email bulletin board just about the worst to keep in contact? i mean why dont we upgrade to a forum or the like? yeah we get the posts but do we need to get every message? to this i said no and opted for the archive. either way you slice it you still have to read through the messages to get the good bits while skipping the formatted and non formatted version as well as the replied to message that is now in the archive for the 4th time. haha the little black putty windows as work is about as nestalgic as i wanna get :) i too have seen crappy mediacom service. i was living in silvis up until the 5th of december but things havent gotten any better in rock island by memorial park. i was actually getting disconnects yesterday and netflix on the 360 is completely useless at say 5pm or 7pm. i have been doing speed tests on and off since december and generally get 3M down but it spikes so much that figure really doesnt mean anything. i too have been told from coworkers that a new modem would help but id hate to drop a 100 bucks and then decide to switch because it didnt help matters (currently have the original white surfboard). ------------------------------- Michael A. Nelson digital servitude .com ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/777157eb/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 23:44:53 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:44:53 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Considering how the mail server has to go down occasionally (though I'm very grateful for Roadkill's service), creating a group on Google Groups might be a decent idea, I suppose that deserves some thought. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Michael Nelson < mike.a.nelson@digitalservitude.com> wrote: > is it just me or is this email bulletin board just about the worst to keep > in contact? i mean why dont we upgrade to a forum or the like? yeah we get > the posts but do we need to get every message? to this i said no and opted > for the archive. either way you slice it you still have to read through the > messages to get the good bits while skipping the formatted and non formatted > version as well as the replied to message that is now in the archive for the > 4th time. haha the little black putty windows as work is about as nestalgic > as i wanna get :) > > i too have seen crappy mediacom service. i was living in silvis up until > the 5th of december but things havent gotten any better in rock island by > memorial park. i was actually getting disconnects yesterday and netflix on > the 360 is completely useless at say 5pm or 7pm. i have been doing speed > tests on and off since december and generally get 3M down but it spikes so > much that figure really doesnt mean anything. i too have been told from > coworkers that a new modem would help but id hate to drop a 100 bucks and > then decide to switch because it didnt help matters (currently have the > original white surfboard). > > ------------------------------- > Michael A. Nelson > digital servitude .com > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/f55af372/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 23:50:50 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:50:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901251550q2b15c48fpdd462f051b8b2900@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment QClinux forums sounds good .... we could use google groups i think too ? On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Considering how the mail server has to go down occasionally (though I'm > very grateful for Roadkill's service), creating a group on Google Groups > might be a decent idea, I suppose that deserves some thought. > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Michael Nelson < > mike.a.nelson@digitalservitude.com> wrote: > >> is it just me or is this email bulletin board just about the worst to keep >> in contact? i mean why dont we upgrade to a forum or the like? yeah we get >> the posts but do we need to get every message? to this i said no and opted >> for the archive. either way you slice it you still have to read through the >> messages to get the good bits while skipping the formatted and non formatted >> version as well as the replied to message that is now in the archive for the >> 4th time. haha the little black putty windows as work is about as nestalgic >> as i wanna get :) >> >> i too have seen crappy mediacom service. i was living in silvis up until >> the 5th of december but things havent gotten any better in rock island by >> memorial park. i was actually getting disconnects yesterday and netflix on >> the 360 is completely useless at say 5pm or 7pm. i have been doing speed >> tests on and off since december and generally get 3M down but it spikes so >> much that figure really doesnt mean anything. i too have been told from >> coworkers that a new modem would help but id hate to drop a 100 bucks and >> then decide to switch because it didnt help matters (currently have the >> original white surfboard). >> >> ------------------------------- >> Michael A. Nelson >> digital servitude .com >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/2e313d85/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 23:56:48 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:56:48 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251550q2b15c48fpdd462f051b8b2900@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901251550q2b15c48fpdd462f051b8b2900@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901251556h19a09cddq53e82b3c01758420@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I'm assuming everyone would prefer to avoid checking for messages in 3 different places :) On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > QClinux forums sounds good .... we could use google groups i think too ? > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/7c184978/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 02:00:57 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:00:57 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901251556h19a09cddq53e82b3c01758420@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <65dc1580901251550q2b15c48fpdd462f051b8b2900@mail.gmail.com> <1c9537490901251556h19a09cddq53e82b3c01758420@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901251800w5d006c34n127b85d1ade9f121@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment trace route to google.com .... notice 2nd hop is 305 ms too much pretty sure that is cable modem to gateway first is my router / server .... why the hops though other client addresses? does someone have there dhcp server internet facing again .... lol 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 331 ms 307 ms 307 ms 10.0.138.1 3 329 ms 306 ms 307 ms 12-215-14-225.client.mchsi.com [12.215. 4 330 ms 306 ms 306 ms 12-215-4-82.client.mchsi.com [12.215.4. 5 328 ms 306 ms 307 ms cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.22] 6 330 ms 307 ms 306 ms ggr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.141] 7 328 ms 306 ms 306 ms 192.205.33.186 8 329 ms 307 ms 306 ms ae-32-56.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68 9 * 304 ms 306 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69 10 329 ms 306 ms 348 ms ae-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.132 11 371 ms 370 ms 335 ms ae-82-82.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69 12 358 ms 409 ms 409 ms ae-3-89.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68 13 431 ms 409 ms 409 ms GOOGLE-INC.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4 6] 14 431 ms 409 ms 409 ms 209.85.255.68 15 378 ms 409 ms 409 ms 72.14.236.219 16 431 ms 409 ms 409 ms 72.14.236.183 17 329 ms 409 ms 409 ms 72.14.236.142 18 327 ms 409 ms 406 ms qb-in-f100.google.com [72.14.205.100] Trace complete. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > I'm assuming everyone would prefer to avoid checking for messages in 3 > different places :) > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > >> QClinux forums sounds good .... we could use google groups i think too ? >> >> > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/2d56a40d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com Mon Jan 26 02:18:01 2009 From: roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com (Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:18:01 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to keep in touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use them, as well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to administer and moderate. I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm kept pretty busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a major factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group is up to.. All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can read anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and can read them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to the server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, and I don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time since I moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG server of that peroid..) :} just my $0.02 rk On Sunday 25 January 2009, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Considering how the mail server has to go down occasionally (though I'm > very grateful for Roadkill's service), creating a group on Google Groups > might be a decent idea, I suppose that deserves some thought. > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Michael Nelson < > > mike.a.nelson@digitalservitude.com> wrote: > > is it just me or is this email bulletin board just about the worst to > > keep in contact? i mean why dont we upgrade to a forum or the like? yeah > > we get the posts but do we need to get every message? to this i said no > > and opted for the archive. either way you slice it you still have to read > > through the messages to get the good bits while skipping the formatted > > and non formatted version as well as the replied to message that is now > > in the archive for the 4th time. haha the little black putty windows as > > work is about as nestalgic as i wanna get :) > > > > i too have seen crappy mediacom service. i was living in silvis up until > > the 5th of december but things havent gotten any better in rock island by > > memorial park. i was actually getting disconnects yesterday and netflix > > on the 360 is completely useless at say 5pm or 7pm. i have been doing > > speed tests on and off since december and generally get 3M down but it > > spikes so much that figure really doesnt mean anything. i too have been > > told from coworkers that a new modem would help but id hate to drop a 100 > > bucks and then decide to switch because it didnt help matters (currently > > have the original white surfboard). > > > > ------------------------------- > > Michael A. Nelson > > digital servitude .com From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 02:27:22 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:27:22 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the traffic usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd prefer to keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and accessible as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the traffic (so, unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) mark On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune < roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> wrote: > Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to keep in > touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use them, > as > well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to administer > and > moderate. > > I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm kept > pretty > busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a major > factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group is up > to.. > > All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can read > anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and can > read > them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously > assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new > questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to the > server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, and I > don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time since > I > moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG server > of that peroid..) > > :} > > just my $0.02 > rk > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/15ac0855/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 02:40:58 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (Dave Bergert) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:40:58 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0FC45DCD-2A8C-4508-946B-2F80E22F04FA@gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) from mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel like you are getting to many messages. That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, etc), but don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". DB On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the > traffic usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug > posts. I'd prefer to keep the regular mailing list, the archives are > always useful and accessible as well. It's just every year or so > someone complains about the traffic (so, unsubscribe and check the > archives when you feel like it!) > > mark > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > wrote: > Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to > keep in > touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use > them, as > well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to > administer and > moderate. > > I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm > kept pretty > busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a > major > factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group > is up > to.. > > All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone > can read > anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and > can read > them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously > assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new > questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to > the > server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, > and I > don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of > time since I > moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG > server > of that peroid..) > > :} > > just my $0.02 > rk > > Dave Bergert dbergert@gmail.com ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/bc8ff490/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From QCAdmin@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 02:49:11 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:49:11 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <0FC45DCD-2A8C-4508-946B-2F80E22F04FA@gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> <0FC45DCD-2A8C-4508-946B-2F80E22F04FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: I personally love the mailing list. It is the main reason I have become so active. I have gmail filters setup for the LUG to throw it in its own folder, so it stays separate, and the gmail threading makes it a breeze to follow. I already have my email open, so I can stay current without needing to keep constantly revisiting a forum page. To be honest, I wish I could move more of my forum-based activities over to email. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > > You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) from > mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel like you > are getting to many messages. > That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, etc), but > don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". > DB > > On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the traffic > usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd prefer to > keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and accessible > as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the traffic (so, > unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) > > mark > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > wrote: >> >> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to keep >> in >> touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use them, >> as >> well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to administer >> and >> moderate. >> >> I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm kept >> pretty >> busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a major >> factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group is up >> to.. >> >> All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can read >> anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and can >> read >> them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously >> assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new >> questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to the >> server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, and I >> don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time >> since I >> moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG >> server >> of that peroid..) >> >> :} >> >> just my $0.02 >> rk >> > > > Dave Bergert > dbergert@gmail.com > > > From preludelinux@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 03:30:46 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:30:46 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> <0FC45DCD-2A8C-4508-946B-2F80E22F04FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <65dc1580901251930m47cae253y26ec823a26698c5f@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment agreed maybe having a website wiki or forum only for howto's ( for static not changing content) might be nice but the list i love coming to email i belong to the mac groups list but i forget to even go to there google group page that often .... lol ( honestly we could just update the website for static based stuff) but we could try a monthly irc meeting or even some type of voip thingy. might be able to try this to get more people involved or for those that cant make the normal meeting or in times a meeting could not be possible like bad weather etc etc. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: > I personally love the mailing list. It is the main reason I have > become so active. I have gmail filters setup for the LUG to throw it > in its own folder, so it stays separate, and the gmail threading makes > it a breeze to follow. I already have my email open, so I can stay > current without needing to keep constantly revisiting a forum page. > To be honest, I wish I could move more of my forum-based activities > over to email. > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: > > > > You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) from > > mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel like > you > > are getting to many messages. > > That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, etc), > but > > don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". > > DB > > > > On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > > > > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the traffic > > usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd prefer > to > > keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and > accessible > > as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the traffic > (so, > > unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) > > > > mark > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > > wrote: > >> > >> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to keep > >> in > >> touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use > them, > >> as > >> well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to > administer > >> and > >> moderate. > >> > >> I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm kept > >> pretty > >> busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a > major > >> factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group is > up > >> to.. > >> > >> All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can > read > >> anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and can > >> read > >> them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously > >> assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new > >> questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to the > >> server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, and I > >> don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time > >> since I > >> moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG > >> server > >> of that peroid..) > >> > >> :} > >> > >> just my $0.02 > >> rk > >> > > > > > > Dave Bergert > > dbergert@gmail.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/1e2224d3/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 03:43:32 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:43:32 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke Message-ID: <65dc1580901251943p5b65c99cg57383e9a2548535b@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment microsoft songsmith .... warning please dont watch this .......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E PLEASE i dont want this to run in wine ever ........ well maybe this is what there firing people for ..... check out all the microsoft brainwashing in the commercial .... its microsoft its easy to use ....... ya try removing a couple trogens and root kits you will find linux much easier to live with ..... IDK im lost for words ... suddenly i feel like reality has stoped ... ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/bc5d92b7/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dbergert@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 03:50:05 2009 From: dbergert@gmail.com (dbergert@gmail.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:50:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke Message-ID: <25510187.8401.1232941805484.JavaMail.seven@ap0.trial.red.7sys.net> This is funny. I saw a blog post that the girl was actually using a macbook ... But it was only a screenshot . Dave Bergert dbergert@gmail.com Sent from my Nokia E71 -original message- Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke From: "Noah Norris" Date: 01/25/2009 9:43 PM microsoft songsmith .... warning please dont watch this .......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E PLEASE i dont want this to run in wine ever ........ well maybe this is what there firing people for ..... check out all the microsoft brainwashing in the commercial .... its microsoft its easy to use ....... ya try removing a couple trogens and root kits you will find linux much easier to live with ..... IDK im lost for words ... suddenly i feel like reality has stoped ... From arronlorenz@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 04:00:07 2009 From: arronlorenz@gmail.com (Arron Lorenz) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:00:07 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901251930m47cae253y26ec823a26698c5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> <0FC45DCD-2A8C-4508-946B-2F80E22F04FA@gmail.com> <65dc1580901251930m47cae253y26ec823a26698c5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <30cf66b30901252000m758f4b17y98d2a123467c6169@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I really enjoy the LUG e-mail. It is one of the few mailing lists I belong to. I already have far to many pages/blogs/forums i visit daily as it is. Another one for the LUG would be a little much I think. Not too mention we currently get great free hosting from Roadkill. I'm sure the mailing list has a very small server foot print compared to a full featured forum/wiki. Regards, Arron On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > agreed maybe having a website wiki or forum only for howto's ( for static > not changing content) might be nice but the list i love coming to email > i belong to the mac groups list but i forget to even go to there google > group page that often .... lol ( honestly we could just update the website > for static based stuff) > > but we could try a monthly irc meeting or even some type of voip thingy. > might be able to try this to get more people involved or for those that cant > make the normal meeting or in times a meeting could not be possible like bad > weather etc etc. > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: > >> I personally love the mailing list. It is the main reason I have >> become so active. I have gmail filters setup for the LUG to throw it >> in its own folder, so it stays separate, and the gmail threading makes >> it a breeze to follow. I already have my email open, so I can stay >> current without needing to keep constantly revisiting a forum page. >> To be honest, I wish I could move more of my forum-based activities >> over to email. >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Dave Bergert wrote: >> > >> > You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) from >> > mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel like >> you >> > are getting to many messages. >> > That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, etc), >> but >> > don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". >> > DB >> > >> > On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >> > >> > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the traffic >> > usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd prefer >> to >> > keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and >> accessible >> > as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the traffic >> (so, >> > unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) >> > >> > mark >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to >> keep >> >> in >> >> touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use >> them, >> >> as >> >> well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to >> administer >> >> and >> >> moderate. >> >> >> >> I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm kept >> >> pretty >> >> busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a >> major >> >> factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group is >> up >> >> to.. >> >> >> >> All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can >> read >> >> anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and >> can >> >> read >> >> them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously >> >> assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new >> >> questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to >> the >> >> server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, and >> I >> >> don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time >> >> since I >> >> moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG >> >> server >> >> of that peroid..) >> >> >> >> :} >> >> >> >> just my $0.02 >> >> rk >> >> >> > >> > >> > Dave Bergert >> > dbergert@gmail.com >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > -- From: Arron James Lorenz Reel to Reel Drive In http://www.DavenportDriveIn.com 563-579-7046 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/e324b6c8/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 04:08:09 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:08:09 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] forum? and mediacom speed tests In-Reply-To: <30cf66b30901252000m758f4b17y98d2a123467c6169@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c9537490901251544wac8da76xea6fe694fe554374@mail.gmail.com> <200901252018.01466.roadkill-ml@darktraveler.com> <1c9537490901251827q6d1fd27el6f3c29babe6a7bf5@mail.gmail.com> <0FC45DCD-2A8C-4508-946B-2F80E22F04FA@gmail.com> <65dc1580901251930m47cae253y26ec823a26698c5f@mail.gmail.com> <30cf66b30901252000m758f4b17y98d2a123467c6169@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment PHPBB2 has no trouble driving the processor usage on a 4x 400Mhz Pentium2 box to 100% -- and that's just from hits on the threads, no posting. It really would take an incredible email load to use that much power. I'm with Arron on the server footprint point. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Arron Lorenz wrote: > I really enjoy the LUG e-mail. It is one of the few mailing lists I belong > to. I already have far to many pages/blogs/forums i visit daily as it is. > Another one for the LUG would be a little much I think. Not too mention we > currently get great free hosting from Roadkill. I'm sure the mailing list > has a very small server foot print compared to a full featured forum/wiki. > Regards, > Arron > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > >> agreed maybe having a website wiki or forum only for howto's ( for static >> not changing content) might be nice but the list i love coming to email >> i belong to the mac groups list but i forget to even go to there google >> group page that often .... lol ( honestly we could just update the website >> for static based stuff) >> >> but we could try a monthly irc meeting or even some type of voip thingy. >> might be able to try this to get more people involved or for those that cant >> make the normal meeting or in times a meeting could not be possible like bad >> weather etc etc. >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: >> >>> I personally love the mailing list. It is the main reason I have >>> become so active. I have gmail filters setup for the LUG to throw it >>> in its own folder, so it stays separate, and the gmail threading makes >>> it a breeze to follow. I already have my email open, so I can stay >>> current without needing to keep constantly revisiting a forum page. >>> To be honest, I wish I could move more of my forum-based activities >>> over to email. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Dave Bergert >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) from >>> > mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel like >>> you >>> > are getting to many messages. >>> > That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, etc), >>> but >>> > don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". >>> > DB >>> > >>> > On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >>> > >>> > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the >>> traffic >>> > usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd >>> prefer to >>> > keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and >>> accessible >>> > as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the traffic >>> (so, >>> > unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) >>> > >>> > mark >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to >>> keep >>> >> in >>> >> touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use >>> them, >>> >> as >>> >> well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to >>> administer >>> >> and >>> >> moderate. >>> >> >>> >> I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm kept >>> >> pretty >>> >> busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a >>> major >>> >> factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group is >>> up >>> >> to.. >>> >> >>> >> All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can >>> read >>> >> anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and >>> can >>> >> read >>> >> them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously >>> >> assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send new >>> >> questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to >>> the >>> >> server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, and >>> I >>> >> don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time >>> >> since I >>> >> moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG >>> >> server >>> >> of that peroid..) >>> >> >>> >> :} >>> >> >>> >> just my $0.02 >>> >> rk >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > Dave Bergert >>> > dbergert@gmail.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >> >> > > > -- > From: > Arron James Lorenz > Reel to Reel Drive In > http://www.DavenportDriveIn.com > 563-579-7046 > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/9b1f3fc7/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 04:30:44 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:30:44 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke In-Reply-To: <25510187.8401.1232941805484.JavaMail.seven@ap0.trial.red.7sys.net> References: <25510187.8401.1232941805484.JavaMail.seven@ap0.trial.red.7sys.net> Message-ID: <1c9537490901252030u21842d0bw934f5a5f851bff44@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment This is it.. Auto-generated songs are the new powerpoint. And yes, that's definitely a macbook. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM, dbergert@gmail.com wrote: > This is funny. I saw a blog post that the girl was actually using a > macbook ... But it was only a screenshot . > > Dave Bergert > dbergert@gmail.com > Sent from my Nokia E71 > > -original message- > Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke > From: "Noah Norris" > Date: 01/25/2009 9:43 PM > > microsoft songsmith .... > warning please dont watch this .......... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E > > PLEASE i dont want this to run in wine ever ........ > > well maybe this is what there firing people for ..... check out all the > microsoft brainwashing in the commercial .... its microsoft its easy to > use ....... ya try removing a couple trogens and root kits you will find > linux much easier to live with ..... > > IDK im lost for words ... suddenly i feel like reality has stoped ... > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/a91a4b6a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From dmichael.burns@gmail.com Mon Jan 26 05:34:50 2009 From: dmichael.burns@gmail.com (DMichael Burns) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:34:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke In-Reply-To: <1c9537490901252030u21842d0bw934f5a5f851bff44@mail.gmail.com> References: <25510187.8401.1232941805484.JavaMail.seven@ap0.trial.red.7sys.net> <1c9537490901252030u21842d0bw934f5a5f851bff44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I used to think that Rocky Horror Picture Show music was bad - Now I stand corrected. Dammit Janet! :P JK about RHPS - I am (and will probably alway will be) a fan. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > This is it.. Auto-generated songs are the new powerpoint. > > And yes, that's definitely a macbook. > > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:50 PM, dbergert@gmail.com wrote: > >> This is funny. I saw a blog post that the girl was actually using a >> macbook ... But it was only a screenshot . >> >> Dave Bergert >> dbergert@gmail.com >> Sent from my Nokia E71 >> >> -original message- >> Subject: [QCLUG] OMG i hope this is a joke >> From: "Noah Norris" >> Date: 01/25/2009 9:43 PM >> >> microsoft songsmith .... >> warning please dont watch this .......... >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E >> >> PLEASE i dont want this to run in wine ever ........ >> >> well maybe this is what there firing people for ..... check out all the >> microsoft brainwashing in the commercial .... its microsoft its easy to >> use ....... ya try removing a couple trogens and root kits you will find >> linux much easier to live with ..... >> >> IDK im lost for words ... suddenly i feel like reality has stoped ... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > -- "Men and women belong to different species and communications between them is still in its infancy." --Bill Cosby, American Comedian ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > PHPBB2 has no trouble driving the processor usage on a 4x 400Mhz Pentium2 > box to 100% -- and that's just from hits on the threads, no posting. It > really would take an incredible email load to use that much power. I'm with > Arron on the server footprint point. > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Arron Lorenz wrote: > >> I really enjoy the LUG e-mail. It is one of the few mailing lists I belong >> to. I already have far to many pages/blogs/forums i visit daily as it is. >> Another one for the LUG would be a little much I think. Not too mention we >> currently get great free hosting from Roadkill. I'm sure the mailing list >> has a very small server foot print compared to a full featured forum/wiki. >> Regards, >> Arron >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Noah Norris wrote: >> >>> agreed maybe having a website wiki or forum only for howto's ( for static >>> not changing content) might be nice but the list i love coming to email >>> i belong to the mac groups list but i forget to even go to there google >>> group page that often .... lol ( honestly we could just update the website >>> for static based stuff) >>> >>> but we could try a monthly irc meeting or even some type of voip thingy. >>> might be able to try this to get more people involved or for those that cant >>> make the normal meeting or in times a meeting could not be possible like bad >>> weather etc etc. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Chris Cooper wrote: >>> >>>> I personally love the mailing list. It is the main reason I have >>>> become so active. I have gmail filters setup for the LUG to throw it >>>> in its own folder, so it stays separate, and the gmail threading makes >>>> it a breeze to follow. I already have my email open, so I can stay >>>> current without needing to keep constantly revisiting a forum page. >>>> To be honest, I wish I could move more of my forum-based activities >>>> over to email. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Dave Bergert >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) from >>>> > mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel >>>> like you >>>> > are getting to many messages. >>>> > That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, etc), >>>> but >>>> > don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". >>>> > DB >>>> > >>>> > On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >>>> > >>>> > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the >>>> traffic >>>> > usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd >>>> prefer to >>>> > keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and >>>> accessible >>>> > as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the >>>> traffic (so, >>>> > unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) >>>> > >>>> > mark >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways to >>>> keep >>>> >> in >>>> >> touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs use >>>> them, >>>> >> as >>>> >> well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to >>>> administer >>>> >> and >>>> >> moderate. >>>> >> >>>> >> I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm >>>> kept >>>> >> pretty >>>> >> busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time being a >>>> major >>>> >> factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the group >>>> is up >>>> >> to.. >>>> >> >>>> >> All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone can >>>> read >>>> >> anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, and >>>> can >>>> >> read >>>> >> them... in case your working off an answer or some such... (obviously >>>> >> assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even send >>>> new >>>> >> questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it to >>>> the >>>> >> server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 days, >>>> and I >>>> >> don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of time >>>> >> since I >>>> >> moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the LUG >>>> >> server >>>> >> of that peroid..) >>>> >> >>>> >> :} >>>> >> >>>> >> just my $0.02 >>>> >> rk >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Dave Bergert >>>> > dbergert@gmail.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> QCLUG mailing list >>>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> From: >> Arron James Lorenz >> Reel to Reel Drive In >> http://www.DavenportDriveIn.com >> 563-579-7046 >> > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frankly, the service functions very well, and all of the boons and features RK hilighted are worthwhile. On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Noah Norris wrote: > mediacom magically came back to normal before the tech got here > today ... > > i was talking the tech and he really dont know if anything was fixed > that may have solved the problem. > i just hope it stays up. he did tell me he usually works in Moline > area and that Moline is experiencing alot of problems. > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Tim Shearouse > wrote: > PHPBB2 has no trouble driving the processor usage on a 4x 400Mhz > Pentium2 box to 100% -- and that's just from hits on the threads, > no posting. It really would take an incredible email load to use > that much power. I'm with Arron on the server footprint point. > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Arron Lorenz > wrote: > I really enjoy the LUG e-mail. It is one of the few mailing lists I > belong to. I already have far to many pages/blogs/forums i visit > daily as it is. Another one for the LUG would be a little much I > think. Not too mention we currently get great free hosting from > Roadkill. I'm sure the mailing list has a very small server foot > print compared to a full featured forum/wiki. > > Regards, > Arron > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Noah Norris > wrote: > agreed maybe having a website wiki or forum only for howto's ( for > static not changing content) might be nice but the list i love > coming to email > i belong to the mac groups list but i forget to even go to there > google group page that often .... lol ( honestly we could just > update the website for static based stuff) > > but we could try a monthly irc meeting or even some type of voip > thingy. might be able to try this to get more people involved or for > those that cant make the normal meeting or in times a meeting could > not be possible like bad weather etc etc. > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Chris Cooper > wrote: > I personally love the mailing list. It is the main reason I have > become so active. I have gmail filters setup for the LUG to throw it > in its own folder, so it stays separate, and the gmail threading makes > it a breeze to follow. I already have my email open, so I can stay > current without needing to keep constantly revisiting a forum page. > To be honest, I wish I could move more of my forum-based activities > over to email. > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Dave Bergert > wrote: > > > > You can setup digest options (1 email per day vs. 1 per message) > from > > mailman: http://www.qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug if you feel > like you > > are getting to many messages. > > That said i like google groups (RSS feeds, files section, pages, > etc), but > > don't really see a reason to change or move to "forums". > > DB > > > > On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > > > > All very valid statements. Personally I typically don't mind the > traffic > > usually, my mail is set up to automatically sort qclug posts. I'd > prefer to > > keep the regular mailing list, the archives are always useful and > accessible > > as well. It's just every year or so someone complains about the > traffic (so, > > unsubscribe and check the archives when you feel like it!) > > > > mark > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Roadkill the Avatar of Misfortune > > wrote: > >> > >> Personally, I feel that the mailing list is one of the best ways > to keep > >> in > >> touch for a group like this... As far as I am aware, most LUGs > use them, > >> as > >> well as most OSS groups as well. Forums can be a nightmare to > administer > >> and > >> moderate. > >> > >> I like getting every email, I know I do not respond often, as I'm > kept > >> pretty > >> busy these days, but I do read them when time permits. Time > being a major > >> factor, I don't want to dig through web pages to see what the > group is up > >> to.. > >> > >> All servers have to go down occasionally, and with a forum, noone > can read > >> anything, at least with the mailing list, you have those emails, > and can > >> read > >> them... in case your working off an answer or some such... > (obviously > >> assuming you are using a local email client) and you can even > send new > >> questions out, your smtp relay should cache the email and send it > to the > >> server once it's back up (normally this should be at least 4 > days, and I > >> don't think I've had the qclug down anywhere near that amount of > time > >> since I > >> moved it from solo...even there I can't recall a downtime of the > LUG > >> server > >> of that peroid..) > >> > >> :} > >> > >> just my $0.02 > >> rk > >> > > > > > > Dave Bergert > > dbergert@gmail.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > > -- > From: > Arron James Lorenz > Reel to Reel Drive In > http://www.DavenportDriveIn.com > 563-579-7046 > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. Thank you in advance. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/83db58bf/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From tony@tonybibbs.com Tue Jan 27 00:54:21 2009 From: tony@tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:54:21 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > ...but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid of Windows all > together. > I can't help but given that statement I'm not 100% sure I would even if I had the answer ;-) -- Tony Bibbs Email: tony@tonybibbs.com Phone: 515.554.8046 Twitter: tonybibbs Skype: tonybibbs Web: http://www.tonybibbs.com ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/93e20052/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 00:57:07 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:57:07 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment To keep Vista around, you should definitely not tell it to take the whole disk (unless you have multiple hard drives, with Vista installed on one drive and Ubuntu on another). I would recommend you resize your Vista partition from within Vista. Check here for a walkthrough: http://www.vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-windows-vista Then boot from the Ubuntu installer and tell it to use the free space. See if that makes a difference. Vista comes with a newer version of the NTFS file system that's harder to resize than older versions, that might be the issue. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > All, > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/20f2c24f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 01:00:45 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:00:45 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901261700l7bd9a35fm2124aed49a282540@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Thank you for the response, I will try this method. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > To keep Vista around, you should definitely not tell it to take the whole > disk (unless you have multiple hard drives, with Vista installed on one > drive and Ubuntu on another). > > I would recommend you resize your Vista partition from within Vista. Check > here for a walkthrough: > > http://www.vistarewired.com/2007/02/16/how-to-resize-a-partition-in-windows-vista > > Then boot from the Ubuntu installer and tell it to use the free space. See > if that makes a difference. > Vista comes with a newer version of the NTFS file system that's harder to > resize than older versions, that might be the issue. > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > >> All, >> >> I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation >> error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 >> in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says >> that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so >> that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using >> the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to >> free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. >> I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep >> Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid >> of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, >> and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. >> Thank you in advance. >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) or something similar. _____ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors All, I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. Thank you in advance. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/6bd397c4/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 01:03:59 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:03:59 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Arron's point reminds me that you should also burn the installation disc at the lowest speed your burner supports. It's easy to introduce errors creating the disc. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may > need to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com) or something similar. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Luis Gonzalez > *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > *To:* qclug@qclug.org > *Subject:* [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > All, > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/134f07c0/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 01:08:24 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:08:24 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901261708x4679c7a6rfea398fb55756644@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Thanks for the reply. It came with a magazine I bought at borders. I also tried loading 8.04 that came with Beginning Linux book I bought and both gave me the same error. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may > need to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com) or something similar. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Luis Gonzalez > *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > *To:* qclug@qclug.org > *Subject:* [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > All, > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/9ac42005/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 01:09:04 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:09:04 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901261709x56f099c2n72b1102d2419f2a6@mail.gmail.com> The only error is "ext3 failed"? No details beyond that? On 1/26/09, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > All, > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 01:09:50 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:09:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> Message-ID: <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an option to check the disc integrity. On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may need > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) or > something similar. > > > > _____ > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Luis Gonzalez > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > All, > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > From acjohnson@pcdomain.com Tue Jan 27 01:06:54 2009 From: acjohnson@pcdomain.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:06:54 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261708x4679c7a6rfea398fb55756644@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <9cc5468b0901261708x4679c7a6rfea398fb55756644@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E8A27B385B54AAF94060F9A994CF139@pcdomain.local> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment What kind of computer is it? Model #, motherboard, sata controller, RAID? Etc. _____ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:08 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors Thanks for the reply. It came with a magazine I bought at borders. I also tried loading 8.04 that came with Beginning Linux book I bought and both gave me the same error. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may need to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) or something similar. _____ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors All, I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. Thank you in advance. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an > option to check the disc integrity. > > On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may > need > > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading > it > > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than > http > > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) > or > > something similar. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf > Of > > Luis Gonzalez > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > > To: qclug@qclug.org > > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu > 8.10 > > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista > to > > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone > help. > > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to > keep > > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get > rid > > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in > Davenport, > > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is > interested. > > Thank you in advance. > > > > -- > > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/05821f56/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 02:16:50 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:16:50 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There are some firmware issues with some recent drives... On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went > and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got > same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two > lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I > know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't > even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, > one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came > with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop > just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: > >> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an >> option to check the disc integrity. >> >> On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: >> > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may >> need >> > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu >> > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading >> it >> > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than >> http >> > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) >> or >> > something similar. >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On >> Behalf Of >> > Luis Gonzalez >> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM >> > To: qclug@qclug.org >> > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >> > >> > >> > >> > All, >> > >> > >> > >> > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation >> > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu >> 8.10 >> > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it >> says >> > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so >> > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried >> using >> > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in >> vista to >> > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone >> help. >> > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to >> keep >> > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get >> rid >> > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in >> Davenport, >> > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is >> interested. >> > Thank you in advance. >> > >> > -- >> > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/3ec7a1ae/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From vorlon@dodds.net Tue Jan 27 02:27:30 2009 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:27:30 -0800 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090127022728.GA9835@dario.dodds.net> Hi Luis, On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 06:51:11PM -0600, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Could you post the full error message that's shown when the installation fails? I don't think "ext3 failed" is an error message that would ever be shown by the installer, so knowing exactly what the error message is would let people give you better guidance here. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 02:29:43 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:29:43 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment This is the specs for the laptop below Dell Inspiron 1525 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ RAM: 2038MB 32 bit Operating System Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There are > some firmware issues with some recent drives... > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > >> I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went >> and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got >> same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two >> lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I >> know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't >> even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, >> one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came >> with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop >> just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >> >>> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an >>> option to check the disc integrity. >>> >>> On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: >>> > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may >>> need >>> > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu >>> > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend >>> downloading it >>> > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than >>> http >>> > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com >>> ) or >>> > something similar. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _____ >>> > >>> > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On >>> Behalf Of >>> > Luis Gonzalez >>> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM >>> > To: qclug@qclug.org >>> > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > All, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation >>> > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu >>> 8.10 >>> > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it >>> says >>> > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it >>> so >>> > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried >>> using >>> > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in >>> vista to >>> > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone >>> help. >>> > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to >>> keep >>> > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get >>> rid >>> > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in >>> Davenport, >>> > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is >>> interested. >>> > Thank you in advance. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> QCLUG mailing list >>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/64c6c6b8/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 02:36:47 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:36:47 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Erro Message: Failed to create a file system The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > This is the specs for the laptop below > > Dell Inspiron 1525 > 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE > INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ > RAM: 2038MB > 32 bit Operating System > Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > >> Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There >> are some firmware issues with some recent drives... >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: >> >>> I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went >>> and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got >>> same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two >>> lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I >>> know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't >>> even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, >>> one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came >>> with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop >>> just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >>> >>>> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an >>>> option to check the disc integrity. >>>> >>>> On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: >>>> > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may >>>> need >>>> > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the >>>> Ubuntu >>>> > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend >>>> downloading it >>>> > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking >>>> than http >>>> > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com >>>> ) or >>>> > something similar. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _____ >>>> > >>>> > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On >>>> Behalf Of >>>> > Luis Gonzalez >>>> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM >>>> > To: qclug@qclug.org >>>> > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > All, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this >>>> installation >>>> > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu >>>> 8.10 >>>> > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it >>>> says >>>> > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it >>>> so >>>> > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried >>>> using >>>> > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in >>>> vista to >>>> > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone >>>> help. >>>> > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to >>>> keep >>>> > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get >>>> rid >>>> > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in >>>> Davenport, >>>> > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is >>>> interested. >>>> > Thank you in advance. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> QCLUG mailing list >>>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/849b85ee/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 02:41:38 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:41:38 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Just a thought: Are you booting the computer from the CD, or are you loading the installer after Windows is running? I'm wondering if WUBI is having trouble running with your account permissions. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > Erro Message: > Failed to create a file system > The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) > failed. > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > >> This is the specs for the laptop below >> >> Dell Inspiron 1525 >> 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE >> INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ >> RAM: 2038MB >> 32 bit Operating System >> Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: >> >>> Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There >>> are some firmware issues with some recent drives... >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: >>> >>>> I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I >>>> went and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and >>>> got same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with >>>> two lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I >>>> know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't >>>> even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, >>>> one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came >>>> with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop >>>> just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an >>>>> option to check the disc integrity. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: >>>>> > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may >>>>> need >>>>> > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the >>>>> Ubuntu >>>>> > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend >>>>> downloading it >>>>> > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking >>>>> than http >>>>> > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com >>>>> ) or >>>>> > something similar. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _____ >>>>> > >>>>> > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> > Luis Gonzalez >>>>> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM >>>>> > To: qclug@qclug.org >>>>> > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > All, >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this >>>>> installation >>>>> > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu >>>>> 8.10 >>>>> > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it >>>>> says >>>>> > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it >>>>> so >>>>> > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried >>>>> using >>>>> > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in >>>>> vista to >>>>> > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone >>>>> help. >>>>> > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to >>>>> keep >>>>> > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and >>>>> get rid >>>>> > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in >>>>> Davenport, >>>>> > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is >>>>> interested. >>>>> > Thank you in advance. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> QCLUG mailing list >>>>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>>>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/5ca57178/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 02:43:04 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:43:04 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901261843m33fdaf09xbf2796425906592d@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I am booting from the CD/DVD drive. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: > Just a thought: Are you booting the computer from the CD, or are you > loading the installer after Windows is running? I'm wondering if WUBI is > having trouble running with your account permissions. > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > >> Erro Message: >> Failed to create a file system >> The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) >> failed. >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: >> >>> This is the specs for the laptop below >>> >>> Dell Inspiron 1525 >>> 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE >>> INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ >>> RAM: 2038MB >>> 32 bit Operating System >>> Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: >>> >>>> Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There >>>> are some firmware issues with some recent drives... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: >>>> >>>>> I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I >>>>> went and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and >>>>> got same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with >>>>> two lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I >>>>> know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't >>>>> even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, >>>>> one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came >>>>> with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop >>>>> just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an >>>>>> option to check the disc integrity. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: >>>>>> > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You >>>>>> may need >>>>>> > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the >>>>>> Ubuntu >>>>>> > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend >>>>>> downloading it >>>>>> > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking >>>>>> than http >>>>>> > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com < >>>>>> http://www.utorrent.com/> ) or >>>>>> > something similar. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _____ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On >>>>>> Behalf Of >>>>>> > Luis Gonzalez >>>>>> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM >>>>>> > To: qclug@qclug.org >>>>>> > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > All, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this >>>>>> installation >>>>>> > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install >>>>>> Ubuntu 8.10 >>>>>> > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it >>>>>> says >>>>>> > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried >>>>>> it so >>>>>> > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried >>>>>> using >>>>>> > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in >>>>>> vista to >>>>>> > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can >>>>>> anyone help. >>>>>> > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need >>>>>> to keep >>>>>> > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and >>>>>> get rid >>>>>> > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in >>>>>> Davenport, >>>>>> > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is >>>>>> interested. >>>>>> > Thank you in advance. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> QCLUG mailing list >>>>>> QCLUG@qclug.org >>>>>> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/b6ac5c3e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From acjohnson@pcdomain.com Tue Jan 27 02:44:22 2009 From: acjohnson@pcdomain.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:44:22 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using the gparted live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php _____ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors Erro Message: Failed to create a file system The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: This is the specs for the laptop below Dell Inspiron 1525 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ RAM: 2038MB 32 bit Operating System Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There are some firmware issues with some recent drives... On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an option to check the disc integrity. On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may need > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) or > something similar. > > > > _____ > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Luis Gonzalez > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > All, > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/843ef35d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 04:01:16 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:01:16 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Just tried the gparted live CD. I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for Linux-Swap. When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well. I don't know what it can be. It seems that it just doesn't want linux on it. Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing happen, and lost VISTA and Everything. But when I went to reinstall VISTA so that I can have an OS to work with, the installation went smooth. I don't know if there is some kind of proprietary code not letting me install any other OS. I will not give up on Linux, if I can't get it to work on this machine, then I will buy another that I can install it on. Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek Squad might be able to help? Thanks for all the help though. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using the > gparted live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Luis Gonzalez > *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM > *To:* qclug@qclug.org > *Subject:* Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > Erro Message: > > Failed to create a file system > > The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) > failed. > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez > wrote: > > This is the specs for the laptop below > > > > Dell Inspiron 1525 > > 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE > > INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ > > RAM: 2038MB > > 32 bit Operating System > > Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse > wrote: > > Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There are > some firmware issues with some recent drives... > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez > wrote: > > I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went > and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got > same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two > lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I > know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't > even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, > one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came > with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop > just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel > wrote: > > Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an > option to check the disc integrity. > > > On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may > need > > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading > it > > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than > http > > > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) > or > > > something similar. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf > Of > > Luis Gonzalez > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > > To: qclug@qclug.org > > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu > 8.10 > > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista > to > > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone > help. > > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to > keep > > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get > rid > > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in > Davenport, > > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is > interested. > > Thank you in advance. > > > > -- > > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/05d723c9/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From t.shearouse@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 04:17:58 2009 From: t.shearouse@gmail.com (Tim Shearouse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:17:58 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Geek Squad is usually useless when it comes to anything Linux related, or at least that's my impression. If they've improved, someone please correct me. Just to check the easy fixes: You did try resizing or deleting the large 160GB Vista partition first, right? When there is a bootable Vista install, are you able to mount the volume and see files from a live cd? On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > Just tried the gparted live CD. I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for > Linux-Swap. When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well. I don't > know what it can be. It seems that it just doesn't want linux on it. > Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing happen, and lost > VISTA and Everything. But when I went to reinstall VISTA so that I can have > an OS to work with, the installation went smooth. I don't know if there is > some kind of proprietary code not letting me install any other OS. I will > not give up on Linux, if I can't get it to work on this machine, then I will > buy another that I can install it on. Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek > Squad might be able to help? Thanks for all the help though. > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: > >> Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using the >> gparted live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Luis Gonzalez >> *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM >> *To:* qclug@qclug.org >> *Subject:* Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >> >> >> >> Erro Message: >> >> Failed to create a file system >> >> The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) >> failed. >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez >> wrote: >> >> This is the specs for the laptop below >> >> >> >> Dell Inspiron 1525 >> >> 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE >> >> INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ >> >> RAM: 2038MB >> >> 32 bit Operating System >> >> Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse >> wrote: >> >> Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There >> are some firmware issues with some recent drives... >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez >> wrote: >> >> I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went >> and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got >> same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two >> lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I >> know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't >> even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, >> one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came >> with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop >> just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel >> wrote: >> >> Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an >> option to check the disc integrity. >> >> >> On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: >> > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may >> need >> > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu >> > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading >> it >> > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than >> http >> >> > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) >> or >> >> > something similar. >> > >> > >> > >> > _____ >> > >> > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On >> Behalf Of >> > Luis Gonzalez >> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM >> > To: qclug@qclug.org >> > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors >> > >> > >> > >> > All, >> > >> > >> > >> > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation >> > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu >> 8.10 >> > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it >> says >> > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so >> > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried >> using >> > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in >> vista to >> > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone >> help. >> > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to >> keep >> > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get >> rid >> > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in >> Davenport, >> > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is >> interested. >> > Thank you in advance. >> > >> > -- >> > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> QCLUG mailing list >> QCLUG@qclug.org >> http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug >> >> >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. >> > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You know you could try installing it that way. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you install using WUBI it doesn't need to partition or anything so that should solve your problem right there. Just run the CD from Vista and you should be able to install via WUBI and make it work that way. _____ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:01 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors Just tried the gparted live CD. I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for Linux-Swap. When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well. I don't know what it can be. It seems that it just doesn't want linux on it. Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing happen, and lost VISTA and Everything. But when I went to reinstall VISTA so that I can have an OS to work with, the installation went smooth. I don't know if there is some kind of proprietary code not letting me install any other OS. I will not give up on Linux, if I can't get it to work on this machine, then I will buy another that I can install it on. Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek Squad might be able to help? Thanks for all the help though. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using the gparted live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php _____ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors Erro Message: Failed to create a file system The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: This is the specs for the laptop below Dell Inspiron 1525 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ RAM: 2038MB 32 bit Operating System Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There are some firmware issues with some recent drives... On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an option to check the disc integrity. On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may need > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) or > something similar. > > > > _____ > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Luis Gonzalez > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > All, > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/44a56a88/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From mriedesel@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 04:37:08 2009 From: mriedesel@gmail.com (Mark Riedesel) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:37:08 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1c9537490901262037l454447fei260cdcae366ee4fe@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment What's the make/model of the computer? Perhaps it's a known issue, I could do a little googling. Unfortunately Geek Squad has proven themselves to be ignorant in many things. The most recent story I heard ( about a month ago ) involved a friend bringing in his laptop for repair due to random lock-ups, memtest also reported thousands of errors. Their immediate diagnosis was that Linux was the culprit. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > Just tried the gparted live CD. I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for > Linux-Swap. When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well. I don't > know what it can be. It seems that it just doesn't want linux on it. > Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing happen, and lost > VISTA and Everything. But when I went to reinstall VISTA so that I can have > an OS to work with, the installation went smooth. I don't know if there is > some kind of proprietary code not letting me install any other OS. I will > not give up on Linux, if I can't get it to work on this machine, then I will > buy another that I can install it on. Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek > Squad might be able to help? Thanks for all the help though. > > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/77cbf24e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From preludelinux@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 04:46:53 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:46:53 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <777981FE761046F189AB178B5483B3AD@pcdomain.local> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> <777981FE761046F189AB178B5483B3AD@pcdomain.local> Message-ID: <65dc1580901262046s127c59bscf682f422786fb5f@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment i can help you if you like for these type of problems i would only like to do it in person. it might have something todo with bios setting for the sat= a driver to some kind of bug in chipset (rare) i have ubuntu running perfect on a 1720 and had it running smooth for a long while and its very possible to dual boot with both OS's. sounds like a partitioning error when installing vista tell it to use only some of the drive then use the rest for linux manully setting up the partition's as / and double for swap = ( might have to leave a lil space free at the end ) if you would like me to help give me a call @ 309(6314855) im in the rock island area On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Aaron Johnson wro= te: > Someone mentioned using WUBI. You know you could try installing it that > way. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you install using WUBI it doesn't nee= d > to partition or anything so that should solve your problem right there. J= ust > run the CD from Vista and you *should* be able to install via WUBI and > make it work that way=85 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Luis Gonzalez > *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2009 10:01 PM > > *To:* qclug@qclug.org > *Subject:* Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > Just tried the gparted live CD. I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for > Linux-Swap. When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well. I don'= t > know what it can be. It seems that it just doesn't want linux on it. > Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing happen, and l= ost > VISTA and Everything. But when I went to reinstall VISTA so that I can h= ave > an OS to work with, the installation went smooth. I don't know if there = is > some kind of proprietary code not letting me install any other OS. I wil= l > not give up on Linux, if I can't get it to work on this machine, then I w= ill > buy another that I can install it on. Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek > Squad might be able to help? Thanks for all the help though. > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aaron Johnson > wrote: > > Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using the gpart= ed > live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Luis Gonzalez > *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM > *To:* qclug@qclug.org > *Subject:* Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > Erro Message: > > Failed to create a file system > > The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) > failed. > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez > wrote: > > This is the specs for the laptop below > > > > Dell Inspiron 1525 > > 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE > > INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ > > RAM: 2038MB > > 32 bit Operating System > > Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse > wrote: > > Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There a= re > some firmware issues with some recent drives... > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez > wrote: > > I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went > and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got > same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two > lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I > know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't > even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVD= s, > one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that c= ame > with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop > just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel > wrote: > > Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an > option to check the disc integrity. > > > On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may > need > > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloadin= g > it > > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than > http > > > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) > or > > > something similar. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behal= f > Of > > Luis Gonzalez > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > > To: qclug@qclug.org > > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu > 8.10 > > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it sa= ys > > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it s= o > > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried usi= ng > > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vis= ta > to > > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone > help. > > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to > keep > > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get > rid > > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in > Davenport, > > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is > interested. > > Thank you in advance. > > > > -- > > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > > > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/aab98142/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From vorlon@dodds.net Tue Jan 27 07:22:52 2009 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:22:52 -0800 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090127072251.GA25438@dario.dodds.net> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:29:43PM -0600, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > This is the specs for the laptop below > Dell Inspiron 1525 > 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE > INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ > RAM: 2038MB > 32 bit Operating System > Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:36:47PM -0600, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > Erro Message: > Failed to create a file system > The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed. The most likely cause here is that the kernel knows the size of the disk, but is using an incompatible method to access it that prevents accessing anything past 137GB. This may be the result of a BIOS setting. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org From preludelinux@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 08:43:54 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:43:54 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <20090127072251.GA25438@dario.dodds.net> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <20090127072251.GA25438@dario.dodds.net> Message-ID: <65dc1580901270043m407d74afvc2b52d44929c4d8b@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment but usually this happens on old hardware with big drives. try looking for the drive configuration under the bios and list its settings there might be settings for lba and such also look for the sata / ata /pata configuration if theres any someimes this is to set a sata drive into native or compatable mode. actully this reminds me of a corrupt partition table whch could be caused by the way dell set it up or vista. ( sometimes these problems can be a pain) dell diag partition or there media fast boot partition. (alothough less likely cause you tried a full install) if you open a terminal and run dmesg after it errors out is there any other information might be helpfull to have a full dmesg output cause it also lists some information about the drives and all hardware as linux boots. ( sometimes errors and other wierd issues are here ) this is alot of output from dmesg so the best way to do it would be fully boot the live cd and do the install while you have access to webmail of some type and copy and past from a terminal to webmail dell laptops can be picky about cdrom's / dvd used if you used a dvd try a bootable cd (also your dvd came out of a magizine might of had an problem with it also might of been customed from the normal cd's not sure but maybe a different kernel etc etc also try one version behind ) one other note is does vista default to a fast format for installs or this a dell retsore cd? dmesg is a great tool to troble shoot problems On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:29:43PM -0600, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > > This is the specs for the laptop below > > > Dell Inspiron 1525 > > 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE > > INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ > > RAM: 2038MB > > 32 bit Operating System > > Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:36:47PM -0600, Luis Gonzalez wrote: > > Erro Message: > > Failed to create a file system > > The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) > failed. > > The most likely cause here is that the kernel knows the size of the disk, > but is using an incompatible method to access it that prevents accessing > anything past 137GB. This may be the result of a BIOS setting. > > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ > slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/9b1ecf3f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From vorlon@dodds.net Tue Jan 27 08:57:27 2009 From: vorlon@dodds.net (Steve Langasek) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:57:27 -0800 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <65dc1580901270043m407d74afvc2b52d44929c4d8b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <20090127072251.GA25438@dario.dodds.net> <65dc1580901270043m407d74afvc2b52d44929c4d8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090127085726.GA29428@dario.dodds.net> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:43:54AM -0600, Noah Norris wrote: > but usually this happens on old hardware with big drives. On any hardware which has a BIOS setting controlling the access mode for the drive which is set to the wrong value, causing Linux to see the drive as IDE (PATA) instead of SATA. > actully this reminds me of a corrupt partition table whch could be caused by > the way dell set it up or vista. ( sometimes these problems can be a pain) > dell diag partition or there media fast boot partition. (alothough less > likely cause you tried a full install) I've never heard of any such partition table corruption. If the partition table itself is corrupted, I would expect the failure to happen when trying to repartition, not when trying to format. > dell laptops can be picky about cdrom's / dvd used if you used a dvd try a > bootable cd (also your dvd came out of a magizine might of had an problem > with it also might of been customed from the normal cd's not sure but maybe > a different kernel etc etc also try one version behind ) There's really no evidence that this is a problem with the optical media. Especially if you're using the standard Ubuntu installer, to get the point of even trying to partition the disk, the kernel has successfully loaded a compressed squashfs containing all the root filesystem used by the live environment; it's highly unlikely that all of this works but that precisely the bits needed for ext3 formatting are corrupted - even more unlikely that the same problem would affect two separate CDs, which AIUI is how many Luis has already tested. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org From Robert@RM-Jones.com Tue Jan 27 13:21:35 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:21:35 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <497F0A5F.7040408@RM-Jones.com> Good Morning, When I got up this morning I read all the messages and there is one thing that I haven't seen anyone mention. Being somewhat new to Linux, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 now, I have had lots of problems with Vista / Linux. The problem you are having is a new one to me. However, I think one thing I would try before I bought a new computer would be to do a "low level format" using "fdisk". That will take your drive back to it's original condition with "Everything" written over. Then do a Ubuntu install. If you decide to give that a try, Google "download fdisk" and you should get a number of places to get it. If you want some help I have it on a 3/12" disk and would be glad to give you a hand at my house or wherever you want. I have a external 3 1/2" drive (USB) so we should be alright. Let me know if I can be of help. Bob Jones Le Claire, Iowa Luis Gonzalez wrote: > All, > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this > installation error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to > install Ubuntu 8.10 in order to dual boot. I keep getting the > following error. At 5% it says that ext3 failed, and returns me to the > partintionar. I have tried it so that the partitioner allocates the > appropriate space. I have tried using the whole disc, and I have even > tried shrinking my current drive in vista to free up space for > Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. I just > would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get > rid of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in > Davenport, and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone > is interested. Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. From QCAdmin@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 13:37:49 2009 From: QCAdmin@gmail.com (Chris Cooper) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:37:49 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <497F0A5F.7040408@RM-Jones.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <497F0A5F.7040408@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: If you can wait, our next scheduled meeting is February 10th. If you would like to attend with your laptop, there are more than enough people here willing to give you a hand. But as a word of caution, make sure you backed up EVERYTHING in vista you need. Any time you play with the partition table, you risk corrupting all your data. Good to see a new face aboard. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > Good Morning, When I got up this morning I read all the messages and there > is one thing that I haven't seen anyone mention. Being somewhat new to > Linux, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 now, I have had lots of problems with Vista / > Linux. The problem you are having is a new one to me. However, I think one > thing I would try before I bought a new computer would be to do a "low level > format" using "fdisk". That will take your drive back to it's original > condition with "Everything" written over. Then do a Ubuntu install. If you > decide to give that a try, Google "download fdisk" and you should get a > number of places to get it. If you want some help I have it on a 3/12" disk > and would be glad to give you a hand at my house or wherever you want. I > have a external 3 1/2" drive (USB) so we should be alright. Let me know if > I can be of help. > Bob Jones > Le Claire, Iowa > > Luis Gonzalez wrote: >> >> All, >> I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation >> error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 >> in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says >> that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so >> that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using >> the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to >> free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. >> I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep >> Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid >> of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, >> and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. >> Thank you in advance. >> >> -- >> Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > From Robert@RM-Jones.com Tue Jan 27 14:59:47 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:59:47 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <497F0A5F.7040408@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <497F2163.4060803@RM-Jones.com> From Luis' statement "I have tried using the whole disc" I had assumed that he had already backed up, or lost, all his data. If he hasn't, this would be a must before using fdisk. Correct me if I'm wrong, If he uses fdisk, then uses the partition program on the Ubuntu live CD, or some other program, and still has the problem it would have to be some other hardware problem or the BIOS settings. Bob Jones Chris Cooper wrote: > If you can wait, our next scheduled meeting is February 10th. If you > would like to attend with your laptop, there are more than enough > people here willing to give you a hand. But as a word of caution, > make sure you backed up EVERYTHING in vista you need. Any time you > play with the partition table, you risk corrupting all your data. > > Good to see a new face aboard. > > From ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com Tue Jan 27 15:19:31 2009 From: ljgonzalezjr@gmail.com (Luis Gonzalez) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:19:31 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <497F2163.4060803@RM-Jones.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <497F0A5F.7040408@RM-Jones.com> <497F2163.4060803@RM-Jones.com> Message-ID: <9cc5468b0901270719q1df5f17dw49aba54b29998af7@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment All, If you could tell me what time and location for the February 10th meeting I will bring my laptop in. I really don't know anything about the BIOS etc, so I wouldn't know what I am looking at. I think the meeting would be the best option that way I don't give you guys wrong information, and I can learn at the same time. My number is 410-980-0796 in case anyone wants to contact me. I live right off Kimberly near the Starbucks. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Robert Jones wrote: > From Luis' statement "I have tried using the whole disc" I had assumed that > he had already backed up, or lost, all his data. If he hasn't, this would > be a must before using fdisk. Correct me if I'm wrong, If he uses fdisk, > then uses the partition program on the Ubuntu live CD, or some other > program, and still has the problem it would have to be some other hardware > problem or the BIOS settings. > > Bob Jones > > Chris Cooper wrote: > >> If you can wait, our next scheduled meeting is February 10th. If you >> would like to attend with your laptop, there are more than enough >> people here willing to give you a hand. But as a word of caution, >> make sure you backed up EVERYTHING in vista you need. Any time you >> play with the partition table, you risk corrupting all your data. >> >> Good to see a new face aboard. >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > QCLUG mailing list > QCLUG@qclug.org > http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug > -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/6eae5c07/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From adk@52761.com Tue Jan 27 16:38:40 2009 From: adk@52761.com (Allen Kiddoo) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:38:40 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Ubuntu pocket guide Message-ID: <678823f00901270838n1777ac24l8e599148ce17b13f@mail.gmail.com> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ 170 page pdf book- Really good find Got link from DSM lug list. Allen Kiddoo From fatpuppystew@gmail.com Wed Jan 28 22:31:40 2009 From: fatpuppystew@gmail.com (Mike Robinson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:31:40 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors In-Reply-To: <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cc5468b0901261651j64877a50mecf9e1737ca849fe@mail.gmail.com> <82A08F6C2FC84043AE2242857E002E0E@pcdomain.local> <1c9537490901261709j201afad6v530df7d9f23950c1@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261812r38aced63sae99e31ec2413156@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261829qb7fe5f4ie2a1ec3e0e5483d7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901261836y6901db40scee1ae662e064be7@mail.gmail.com> <9cc5468b0901262001u7d97eeebr962c8dc144fae414@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1233181900.2827.12.camel@home4> thought I'd weigh in on this though I'm a noob myself compared to all the other advice your getting. That said, I ran into the same problem your facing on a Acer notebook. Did all the usual googling and found others with the same problem, though no solutions - best guess in the threads was a bios compatibility problem. Still no joy after updating the bios and chipset drivers. Solution: If your not locked into Ubuntu, try a different flavor of Linux. Fedora and Ubuntu failed for me, but Suse worked (I still don't know how). If your interested go to the site below, download and create a live CD. http://software.opensuse.org/ Mike Robinson -----Original Message----- From: Luis Gonzalez Reply-To: qclug@qclug.org To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:01:16 -0600 Just tried the gparted live CD. I set 52GB for Ext3 and 1.94GB for Linux-Swap. When it started to partition ext3 it failed as well. I don't know what it can be. It seems that it just doesn't want linux on it. Yesterday when I tried the whole disc, I had the same thing happen, and lost VISTA and Everything. But when I went to reinstall VISTA so that I can have an OS to work with, the installation went smooth. I don't know if there is some kind of proprietary code not letting me install any other OS. I will not give up on Linux, if I can't get it to work on this machine, then I will buy another that I can install it on. Does anyone know if Best Buys Geek Squad might be able to help? Thanks for all the help though. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Aaron Johnson wrote: Just a thought, you could try to first partition the disk using the gparted live CD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php ________________________________________________________________ From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of Luis Gonzalez Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:37 PM To: qclug@qclug.org Subject: Re: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors Erro Message: Failed to create a file system The ext3 file system creation in partition #5 of SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: This is the specs for the laptop below Dell Inspiron 1525 160GB TOSHIBA MK1637GSX ATA DEVICE INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) DUAL CPU T2330 @1.60GHZ RAM: 2038MB 32 bit Operating System Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Tim Shearouse wrote: Is it a Seagate hard drive, somewhere in the 750GB - 1.5TB range? There are some firmware issues with some recent drives... On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Luis Gonzalez wrote: I checked the integrity of the disk and came back with no errors. I went and repartitioned within VISTA, tried it guided using free space and got same error. I know that once I quit out it gives a black screen with two lines of code, it goes so fast that I can't remember what it says but I know it says 'FIRMWARE' in the lines. I don't know what to do. I can't even have it take over my complete hard drive. I tried two different DVDs, one with 8.10 that I got off a magazine I bought and one with 8.04 that came with the book I bought. I think I will have to go shop for a new laptop just so that I can learn and enjoy Linux, freeing myself for MS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mark Riedesel wrote: Bad disc is possible, when the disk first starts up there should be an option to check the disc integrity. On 1/26/09, Aaron Johnson wrote: > Check your Ubuntu CD. It sounds like you may have a bad disk. You may need > to re-download the ISO. How did you download it, did you use the Ubuntu > mirrors or did you use the torrent. I would highly recommend downloading it > via the torrent because it does much better CRC and error checking than http > does. Try using uTorrent (www.utorrent.com ) or > something similar. > > > > _____ > > From: qclug-bounces@qclug.org [mailto:qclug-bounces@qclug.org] On Behalf Of > Luis Gonzalez > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:51 PM > To: qclug@qclug.org > Subject: [QCLUG] Newbie having installation errors > > > > All, > > > > I would like to know if anyone could help me with this installation > error. I am currently running Vista and have tried to install Ubuntu 8.10 > in order to dual boot. I keep getting the following error. At 5% it says > that ext3 failed, and returns me to the partintionar. I have tried it so > that the partitioner allocates the appropriate space. I have tried using > the whole disc, and I have even tried shrinking my current drive in vista to > free up space for Ubuntu. I keep getting the same error. Can anyone help. > I just would like to have Ubuntu and Vista on the same PC. I need to keep > Vista for my wife, but if not I am willing to just have Ubuntu and get rid > of Windows all together. Any help would be welcomed. I live in Davenport, > and I am willing to meet at a Starbucks or Panera if anyone is interested. > Thank you in advance. > > -- > Luis J Gonzalez Jr. > > _______________________________________________ QCLUG mailing list QCLUG@qclug.org http://qclug.org/mailman/listinfo/qclug -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. -- Luis J Gonzalez Jr. From preludelinux@gmail.com Thu Jan 29 03:04:21 2009 From: preludelinux@gmail.com (Noah Norris) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:04:21 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Google releases tools for seeing if shapping is being used on your isp Message-ID: <65dc1580901281904k7e4ce173l32df53df66019613@mail.gmail.com> ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment once the overload is gone check test tools out and see if your net is fare. http://measurementlab.net/ ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://qclug.org/pipermail/qclug/attachments/8b6088aa/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Robert@RM-Jones.com Thu Jan 29 23:10:58 2009 From: Robert@RM-Jones.com (Robert Jones) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:10:58 -0600 Subject: [QCLUG] Creating an image of a hard drive Message-ID: <49823782.9040209@RM-Jones.com> I'm not sure if all of you know about "partimage" or not. It can be installed via "synaptic" from Ubuntu/Kubuntu. I have been wanting to make an image of my "/" and after some searching came up with "partimage". To make an image of the "/" I had to run "partimage" from the Ubuntu live CD. It took a little time to figure out why I kept getting errors but I found http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage and PartImage home page at http://www.partimage.org/Partimage-manual_Usage and these made it very simple. The only thing that was causing me problems is that when you enter the destination path you must add a file name to the end of it. I just thought some of you may want to hear about it. Since I haven't had to restore the "/" yet I don't know if this part of it works or not but the saving routine goes very fast and seems to do a good job. Have A Great Day Bob Jones